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Jelani Cobb

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

During the Cold War, you could taint anything by just saying that it was communistic or Marxist. And the interesting kind of connection with the civil rights movement is that when I was kind of young, I was kind of like, why were people connecting... racial equality with communism, just saying that if you integrate the schools, it's communism.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

During the Cold War, you could taint anything by just saying that it was communistic or Marxist. And the interesting kind of connection with the civil rights movement is that when I was kind of young, I was kind of like, why were people connecting... racial equality with communism, just saying that if you integrate the schools, it's communism.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

And then at some point it became clear to me that their definition of communism was integration. It didn't have anything to do with redistributing the means of production or expropriating wealth. Communism can be anything that you don't like. And so now DEI is the boogeyman for anything. If there's a terrible tragedy,

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

And then at some point it became clear to me that their definition of communism was integration. It didn't have anything to do with redistributing the means of production or expropriating wealth. Communism can be anything that you don't like. And so now DEI is the boogeyman for anything. If there's a terrible tragedy,

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

And then at some point it became clear to me that their definition of communism was integration. It didn't have anything to do with redistributing the means of production or expropriating wealth. Communism can be anything that you don't like. And so now DEI is the boogeyman for anything. If there's a terrible tragedy,

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

something we would normally have processed in a nonpartisan way, we can all grieve people who've died in a plane crash or a helicopter crash, particularly people who are parts of the military. Now, all of a sudden, that can be blamed on DEI.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

something we would normally have processed in a nonpartisan way, we can all grieve people who've died in a plane crash or a helicopter crash, particularly people who are parts of the military. Now, all of a sudden, that can be blamed on DEI.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

something we would normally have processed in a nonpartisan way, we can all grieve people who've died in a plane crash or a helicopter crash, particularly people who are parts of the military. Now, all of a sudden, that can be blamed on DEI.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

If there is something going wrong in any part of your life, you can just, if there are fires happening in California, then you can bet that somehow another DEI is there. Do you think this will fade? I tend to think that these things are like fevers. You know, they break at some point.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

If there is something going wrong in any part of your life, you can just, if there are fires happening in California, then you can bet that somehow another DEI is there. Do you think this will fade? I tend to think that these things are like fevers. You know, they break at some point.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

If there is something going wrong in any part of your life, you can just, if there are fires happening in California, then you can bet that somehow another DEI is there. Do you think this will fade? I tend to think that these things are like fevers. You know, they break at some point.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

And the fact is that you do have to, irrespective of how masterful Trump and those around him have been in playing on particular social anxieties and fears, at some point you do have to actually govern. And that is not easy. And so we'll see.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

And the fact is that you do have to, irrespective of how masterful Trump and those around him have been in playing on particular social anxieties and fears, at some point you do have to actually govern. And that is not easy. And so we'll see.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

And the fact is that you do have to, irrespective of how masterful Trump and those around him have been in playing on particular social anxieties and fears, at some point you do have to actually govern. And that is not easy. And so we'll see.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

Thank you. Good talking to you.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

Thank you. Good talking to you.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Trump’s Boogeyman: D.E.I.

Thank you. Good talking to you.

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