Jelly Roll

That's awesome.

She grew up sitting in a room and having those kind of calmer, like real long form, because that's how you know how you really feel about it.

What therapy did for me, too, was whenever I quit doing things at a surface level, when it started going, yeah, that's cool.

But like, really, when was the first time you remember being fat?

This is why I've always loved your pod.

It's where I go find out who people are.

Yeah.

Because it's so easy, and I'm in the media, right, to go sit down for 20 minutes and like... Smile and dance.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, exactly.

But it's like, you give me three hours with somebody...

They got to show me who they are.

Yeah.

Somebody's Joe's going to find out who this person is.

You know what I mean?

Like he's going to, it's like, and that's back to like, because we don't know who we are until we start having real conversations.

Right.

It goes back to back to what made you started with this is that we don't know who we are until you started having real car.

I don't know how it started, whether it was in the green room with some of your comic friends.

You were like, dude, we have the greatest conversations in here.