Jen Cohen

People don't like the truth.

Yeah.

Like we just said, we don't like the truth.

They like to, you know, put a lot of bows and lipstick around it.

Yeah.

But sometimes it's like it is what it is.

And I think that's a very good point.

I mean, you do talk a lot in the book or you begin the book with like how low self-esteem is kind of like the, I guess, the domino that leads to a lot of these problems.

How do people even have an assessment if they have low self-esteem?

Is there things that people can look out for?

I want to ask you a question, though, that I've been remiss and I've been trying to, I wanted to ask this before and I kind of, we got sidetracked with all this good stuff.

Yeah.

Because someone like you got, you were recently, I guess you would call it canceled, right?

Can we just talk about what happened with you?

Because I know that some people are going to be listening to this and being curious about...

Isn't this the woman that got canceled?

What happened to her?

Didn't she say that horrible thing?

Yeah.

Because what I was going to talk to you about, my next thing on my list was adultery and all the things.