Jen Cohen

I find like there's a time and place to have like that, like gossipy TV.

It can like, it turns your brain off and all the other things.

But like, I don't like it myself.

I don't find that to be valuable, a good way of spending my time.

I'd rather get a massage.

I'd rather like go in my sauna.

I'd rather listen to a TED talk.

I would rather do

something a little bit better.

Well, that's what happens.

I think you're a combination of the five people around you the most, right?

So that's why it's very important to pick your people, to pick the people who surround you.

But I also think, to your point, when you're a successful person in any realm,

I think, again, it becomes about time.

I don't have time to sit here and be jealous of you.

Also, if someone has what I want, like if I really like what you have, like I would rather... I'm so curious.

I'd rather find out how you got it and then do those things to get it.

Because, again, it's like the growth... It's like it's either you're going to be that... What's that called?

It's...

It's either like that mindset.