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Jen Psaki

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Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

I mean, this looks like a freaking disaster, right?

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

If you're China or Russia, you're like, well, I'm just going to sit back here and watch this craziness unfold.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

So there's certainly that.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

It also, I mean, you know, we both worked in a White House where there was a lot of memo writing, right?

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

And a lot of

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

red teaming, as we called it, which is a good process in government, though, where you're sitting in a meeting and we did that.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

But there were people who were national security leaders who were doing that at a much more highly consequential level than us.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

Right.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

Mapping out what would the impact be of military action in Iran?

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

Well, it's entirely predictable.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

Any national security expert will say that it would have impacted the Strait of Hormuz, that it could have led to

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

the conversation about troops on the ground, that it's really difficult to actually get any of this nuclear material out.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

Point being, that process happens before you even are developing, right, the public talking points and in the process of making a decision.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

And because that didn't happen and it seems like Trump, I don't know the facts here, woke up on like a Friday and was like, let's do this.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

It looks...

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

disjointed and confusing and meanwhile people are like i don't know what the hell is happening but my gas is a dollar more a gallon right or it's 20 more to fill it up so yeah i i would give them a f minus on there yes it doesn't go low enough to do it i don't even it's like probably their worst messaging i think um of things they've done in this term but that's just my for

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

Yeah, that's true.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

And I used to have a mug that said NACP, not a comms problem, because this is... You get a lot of mugs.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

That is true.

Pod Save America
Trump’s Wartime Messaging Disaster (feat. Jen Psaki)

And not to take any blame off of Stephen Chung here, who is delightful, but what are you working with here, right?