Jenin Younes

It would be nice to hear from some of those people, you know, more.

more extensively about what they saw.

So I don't think the video is enough, and the state would need to be able to get access to the witnesses and the forensic evidence.

One question, for instance, that I would imagine would come up is which shot killed her, or was it more than one?

Because, for example, if the first shot didn't kill her, but he was justified, a jury finds he was justified in firing that, but the second and third did,

and he wasn't justified there, you know, that would actually create a different outcome.

So it's complicated.

Got it.

I think so.

I'm pretty sure.

I don't want to say 100% because that's a very unusual case.

I think he probably would be able to.

I don't know if he would pardon him if he was convicted in a federal court.

Of course he would.

Yeah, but it's harder to get convictions as time goes on because people's memories fade.

You know, it's easier to create doubt about what people, that's why prosecutors like to get cases to trial more quickly.

An eyewitness five years later is not as compelling as an eyewitness five months later.

Well, it eviscerates any sense of trust and any trust that the populace has in the federal government.

And I think what happened here was that people formed their opinions very quickly based on how they felt about ICE and how they felt about what ICE's enforcement program.

So the people who liked what ICE was doing assumed that the officer was justified and the people who didn't assumed that he wasn't.