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It's important to say when we asked NLRB for comment on this story, they said they had no official record of Doge visiting, that they'd never authorized Doge accessing their systems, that Doge had never requested access. Of course, that's counter to Brulis' official disclosure, plus records of internal communication seen by NPR and the forensic evidence that we've been looking at.
It's important to say when we asked NLRB for comment on this story, they said they had no official record of Doge visiting, that they'd never authorized Doge accessing their systems, that Doge had never requested access. Of course, that's counter to Brulis' official disclosure, plus records of internal communication seen by NPR and the forensic evidence that we've been looking at.
It's really possible that this first visit and this request not to log access was outside senior leadership's awareness, that they didn't know about it.
It's really possible that this first visit and this request not to log access was outside senior leadership's awareness, that they didn't know about it.
It's really possible that this first visit and this request not to log access was outside senior leadership's awareness, that they didn't know about it.
Yeah, Aisha. So for the first couple of days, Berulis was continuing to do his job as normal. He went home on the weekend and then he noticed that this political reporter, Roger Sullenberger, tweeted about one of the Doge engineers and his public GitHub page. So basically, that's a place where you can host coding projects, collaborate with other people on that project.
Yeah, Aisha. So for the first couple of days, Berulis was continuing to do his job as normal. He went home on the weekend and then he noticed that this political reporter, Roger Sullenberger, tweeted about one of the Doge engineers and his public GitHub page. So basically, that's a place where you can host coding projects, collaborate with other people on that project.
Yeah, Aisha. So for the first couple of days, Berulis was continuing to do his job as normal. He went home on the weekend and then he noticed that this political reporter, Roger Sullenberger, tweeted about one of the Doge engineers and his public GitHub page. So basically, that's a place where you can host coding projects, collaborate with other people on that project.
And he noticed that a project was deleted or made private before he was able to figure out what it was. But the name was really interesting. The name of that project was NXGen B-Door Extract. NXGen is the name of an internal system that was designed specifically for the NLRB in-house, built just for them. And because of that name, Berlis was freaked out.
And he noticed that a project was deleted or made private before he was able to figure out what it was. But the name was really interesting. The name of that project was NXGen B-Door Extract. NXGen is the name of an internal system that was designed specifically for the NLRB in-house, built just for them. And because of that name, Berlis was freaked out.
And he noticed that a project was deleted or made private before he was able to figure out what it was. But the name was really interesting. The name of that project was NXGen B-Door Extract. NXGen is the name of an internal system that was designed specifically for the NLRB in-house, built just for them. And because of that name, Berlis was freaked out.
Yeah, every single person I talked to about this immediately just gasped. They were shocked that someone would actually call something this. Because the name B-Door essentially implies that you're building a backdoor or a way to get into a system that's not authorized. A possible way to extract information.
Yeah, every single person I talked to about this immediately just gasped. They were shocked that someone would actually call something this. Because the name B-Door essentially implies that you're building a backdoor or a way to get into a system that's not authorized. A possible way to extract information.
Yeah, every single person I talked to about this immediately just gasped. They were shocked that someone would actually call something this. Because the name B-Door essentially implies that you're building a backdoor or a way to get into a system that's not authorized. A possible way to extract information.
So to be clear, we were not able to recover the code for that project. We can't know exactly what the program was doing without seeing the details of that code. But, you know, even without knowing when it was created or how frequently it was used, the real importance of this is that it made Brulis concerned. That's when his real fears started to escalate. And why did that scare him so much?
So to be clear, we were not able to recover the code for that project. We can't know exactly what the program was doing without seeing the details of that code. But, you know, even without knowing when it was created or how frequently it was used, the real importance of this is that it made Brulis concerned. That's when his real fears started to escalate. And why did that scare him so much?
So to be clear, we were not able to recover the code for that project. We can't know exactly what the program was doing without seeing the details of that code. But, you know, even without knowing when it was created or how frequently it was used, the real importance of this is that it made Brulis concerned. That's when his real fears started to escalate. And why did that scare him so much?
Mostly because he was really scared of the data inside the NLRB getting out, particularly the data that lives in an extremely sensitive internal system, the case management system. That's where all the case files live of ongoing NLRB investigations. So, Aisha, here's some of the kind of data that NLRB has. personal information about union members or employees that are voting to join the union.
Mostly because he was really scared of the data inside the NLRB getting out, particularly the data that lives in an extremely sensitive internal system, the case management system. That's where all the case files live of ongoing NLRB investigations. So, Aisha, here's some of the kind of data that NLRB has. personal information about union members or employees that are voting to join the union.
Mostly because he was really scared of the data inside the NLRB getting out, particularly the data that lives in an extremely sensitive internal system, the case management system. That's where all the case files live of ongoing NLRB investigations. So, Aisha, here's some of the kind of data that NLRB has. personal information about union members or employees that are voting to join the union.