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Jenna McLaughlin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

You can have it run a bunch of automated programs. And then when it's deleted, when you're done with it, nobody really knows it was ever there or what it was up to. In his disclosure to Congress, Berulis also said that they turned off multi-factor authentication, deleted logs, turned off security requirements for mobile access.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

You know, these are all security controls that would be really strange and unusual for a regular user to disable. And, you know, for Berulis, all of this points to a real attempt to obfuscate activities, to cover tracks.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

You know, these are all security controls that would be really strange and unusual for a regular user to disable. And, you know, for Berulis, all of this points to a real attempt to obfuscate activities, to cover tracks.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

You know, these are all security controls that would be really strange and unusual for a regular user to disable. And, you know, for Berulis, all of this points to a real attempt to obfuscate activities, to cover tracks.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

And then the thing that was really important to Barulis is he saw this giant spike of data leaving the agency. That was one of the biggest red flags that he saw. He captured images of data transiting out of the agency over time, over several weeks. And there's one gigantic spike that you can see right in the time where Doge had access.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

And then the thing that was really important to Barulis is he saw this giant spike of data leaving the agency. That was one of the biggest red flags that he saw. He captured images of data transiting out of the agency over time, over several weeks. And there's one gigantic spike that you can see right in the time where Doge had access.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

And then the thing that was really important to Barulis is he saw this giant spike of data leaving the agency. That was one of the biggest red flags that he saw. He captured images of data transiting out of the agency over time, over several weeks. And there's one gigantic spike that you can see right in the time where Doge had access.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

So first, Barula saw files leaving the case management system that we had been talking about. He described it as kind of the nucleus where all the sensitive stuff lives and stuff never leaves there. And then he saw a slightly larger chunk of files leaving the entire system. And it was impossible to know exactly what those files were. It's all extremely mysterious and sketchy.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

So first, Barula saw files leaving the case management system that we had been talking about. He described it as kind of the nucleus where all the sensitive stuff lives and stuff never leaves there. And then he saw a slightly larger chunk of files leaving the entire system. And it was impossible to know exactly what those files were. It's all extremely mysterious and sketchy.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

So first, Barula saw files leaving the case management system that we had been talking about. He described it as kind of the nucleus where all the sensitive stuff lives and stuff never leaves there. And then he saw a slightly larger chunk of files leaving the entire system. And it was impossible to know exactly what those files were. It's all extremely mysterious and sketchy.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

Luckily, Brulis came with the receipts. He included in his official disclosure that same image I had been talking about where it shows the spike of data leaving the system. So he was able to definitively prove that data left that should not have. And what makes him think that Doge may have taken this data? He really double and triple checked his work. He stress tested these theories.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

Luckily, Brulis came with the receipts. He included in his official disclosure that same image I had been talking about where it shows the spike of data leaving the system. So he was able to definitively prove that data left that should not have. And what makes him think that Doge may have taken this data? He really double and triple checked his work. He stress tested these theories.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

Luckily, Brulis came with the receipts. He included in his official disclosure that same image I had been talking about where it shows the spike of data leaving the system. So he was able to definitively prove that data left that should not have. And what makes him think that Doge may have taken this data? He really double and triple checked his work. He stress tested these theories.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

So he talked to all of his colleagues.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

So he talked to all of his colleagues.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

So he talked to all of his colleagues.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

He confirmed no one at the NLRB had been saving backup files that week or migrating data for projects. And, you know, the timeline matched up. He essentially thought of it as, you know, even if Doge was not the one responsible for this, something unusual happened and it needs to be investigated. I spoke to Richard Griffin. He was the former NLRB general counsel from 2013 to 2017.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

He confirmed no one at the NLRB had been saving backup files that week or migrating data for projects. And, you know, the timeline matched up. He essentially thought of it as, you know, even if Doge was not the one responsible for this, something unusual happened and it needs to be investigated. I spoke to Richard Griffin. He was the former NLRB general counsel from 2013 to 2017.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

He confirmed no one at the NLRB had been saving backup files that week or migrating data for projects. And, you know, the timeline matched up. He essentially thought of it as, you know, even if Doge was not the one responsible for this, something unusual happened and it needs to be investigated. I spoke to Richard Griffin. He was the former NLRB general counsel from 2013 to 2017.

Up First from NPR
A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

And he told me in an interview that none of that confidential and deliberative information should ever leave the agency.