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Jennifer Burns

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1621 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Into the 20th century, it really becomes institutional economics, right? And it's quite dominant. And the neoclassical economists are still there, but they're very much a minority. And Frank Knight, Milton Friedman's teacher, is one of the minority neoclassical economists. And the institutionalists are much more progressive still.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Into the 20th century, it really becomes institutional economics, right? And it's quite dominant. And the neoclassical economists are still there, but they're very much a minority. And Frank Knight, Milton Friedman's teacher, is one of the minority neoclassical economists. And the institutionalists are much more progressive still.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Yes, yes, exactly right. So this is the situation in the 1920s, but... The other piece I should mention is the first generation of progressive economists were very radical. They were closely allied with the socialist movement, with labor radicalism, and many of them lost their jobs at universities. This kind of connects to the early, the dawn of academic freedom. This is before academic freedom.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Yes, yes, exactly right. So this is the situation in the 1920s, but... The other piece I should mention is the first generation of progressive economists were very radical. They were closely allied with the socialist movement, with labor radicalism, and many of them lost their jobs at universities. This kind of connects to the early, the dawn of academic freedom. This is before academic freedom.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Yes, yes, exactly right. So this is the situation in the 1920s, but... The other piece I should mention is the first generation of progressive economists were very radical. They were closely allied with the socialist movement, with labor radicalism, and many of them lost their jobs at universities. This kind of connects to the early, the dawn of academic freedom. This is before academic freedom.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And they became, they were chastened. They became much more mainstream. By the time we get to the 1920s, we don't really have radical critiques of society coming from economists. Much smaller profession, much less important than it is today. And fairly peaceful, because the 1920s are a fairly peaceful decade in the United States. So this is a situation when the Great Depression hits.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And they became, they were chastened. They became much more mainstream. By the time we get to the 1920s, we don't really have radical critiques of society coming from economists. Much smaller profession, much less important than it is today. And fairly peaceful, because the 1920s are a fairly peaceful decade in the United States. So this is a situation when the Great Depression hits.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And they became, they were chastened. They became much more mainstream. By the time we get to the 1920s, we don't really have radical critiques of society coming from economists. Much smaller profession, much less important than it is today. And fairly peaceful, because the 1920s are a fairly peaceful decade in the United States. So this is a situation when the Great Depression hits.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And as I mentioned before, the head, the kind of most important institutional economist is Wesley Mitchell. And he has said, he's written a whole book on business cycles. But he doesn't see this business cycle coming, and it hits, and he doesn't have a good explanation for it. Now, perhaps the preeminent neoclassical economist was Irving Fisher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And as I mentioned before, the head, the kind of most important institutional economist is Wesley Mitchell. And he has said, he's written a whole book on business cycles. But he doesn't see this business cycle coming, and it hits, and he doesn't have a good explanation for it. Now, perhaps the preeminent neoclassical economist was Irving Fisher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And as I mentioned before, the head, the kind of most important institutional economist is Wesley Mitchell. And he has said, he's written a whole book on business cycles. But he doesn't see this business cycle coming, and it hits, and he doesn't have a good explanation for it. Now, perhaps the preeminent neoclassical economist was Irving Fisher.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Now, Irving Fisher is big into the stock market, and Irving Fisher says sometime in late summer, 1929, stocks are going ever higher and will continue to go ever higher forever. And so he loses his reputation after the stock market crash. So Milton Friedman is stepping into a field in which the greats have been discredited. And there's an enormous economic crisis all around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Now, Irving Fisher is big into the stock market, and Irving Fisher says sometime in late summer, 1929, stocks are going ever higher and will continue to go ever higher forever. And so he loses his reputation after the stock market crash. So Milton Friedman is stepping into a field in which the greats have been discredited. And there's an enormous economic crisis all around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Now, Irving Fisher is big into the stock market, and Irving Fisher says sometime in late summer, 1929, stocks are going ever higher and will continue to go ever higher forever. And so he loses his reputation after the stock market crash. So Milton Friedman is stepping into a field in which the greats have been discredited. And there's an enormous economic crisis all around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Yes. And the other thing he's stepping into is a world where in the United States, there's a great deal of anger. at capitalism, at the system, unemployed people on the street. In Europe, there's rising fascist movements. In Asia, there's rising fascist movements. And so everyone's very concerned about this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Yes. And the other thing he's stepping into is a world where in the United States, there's a great deal of anger. at capitalism, at the system, unemployed people on the street. In Europe, there's rising fascist movements. In Asia, there's rising fascist movements. And so everyone's very concerned about this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

Yes. And the other thing he's stepping into is a world where in the United States, there's a great deal of anger. at capitalism, at the system, unemployed people on the street. In Europe, there's rising fascist movements. In Asia, there's rising fascist movements. And so everyone's very concerned about this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And Friedman is seeing a lot of this through the lens of Frank Knight, who feels like we are maybe reaching the end of what he calls liberalism. He calls himself an old-fashioned liberalism. We're reaching the end of representative democratic government because representative democratic government cannot solve these social problems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And Friedman is seeing a lot of this through the lens of Frank Knight, who feels like we are maybe reaching the end of what he calls liberalism. He calls himself an old-fashioned liberalism. We're reaching the end of representative democratic government because representative democratic government cannot solve these social problems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#457 โ€“ Jennifer Burns: Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Economics, Capitalism, Freedom

And Friedman is seeing a lot of this through the lens of Frank Knight, who feels like we are maybe reaching the end of what he calls liberalism. He calls himself an old-fashioned liberalism. We're reaching the end of representative democratic government because representative democratic government cannot solve these social problems.