Jennifer Cohen (host)

How do you define conscious capitalism?

The one that you just said, though, I think is so true and so overlooked and underrated because we're living in a world that values those things, money and power.

But no matter how many times people say that doesn't bring happiness, it doesn't seem to penetrate or resonate.

People still chase it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How did you kind of steer away from that?

I mean, you seem to be, how long have you been married?

35 years.

I would imagine after you sold Whole Foods or people or being the CEO and founder of Whole Foods, you're probably surrounded by a lot of people who are very, who admire you, right?

How do you kind of like create a life of meaning and purpose and of authenticity when you can be surrounded by so much of that other stuff?

But a lot of times people feign, they pretend.

Discerning, that's the one.

You've got to be discerning.

Yeah, that's for sure.

Totally.

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