Jennifer Cohen (host)

I mean, listen, also like that's very inspirational, right?

Like anyone could do it at any age for sure.

But, you know, genetics are genetics.

Right, well, nobody knows their limit.

I think it's important for people to push their limit to know for themselves.

Because also that's how you build self-esteem and confidence, right?

We talk about that a lot on the show, or I talk about that a lot, that when you tell somebody what you want to do or you ask for opinions, all you're going to get is their fear or their experience, right?

And so why would you then make your decision based on someone else's bad experience or their personal opinion?

Of course, it's the difference between doing something and not doing something.

Okay, well, listen, that's good.

So you just like it was a good segue, because I want to know what did happen to you.

Because I mean, yes, like when you like all I really know, I'm going to be totally honest, because I was very honest.

The reason why I had you on the show, you're not the typical person I would put put on.

But because you are my huge crush, I'm like, how can I not say yes, right?

Thank you.

And so, but you were massive back then.

I mean, you were like the, well, from what I remember, I was, of course, 12 years old, but the Calvin Klein model and Melrose Place were the two things that I kind of like remember the most about you.

And you were, but you were like everywhere.

Like you were the guy.

Like, I don't know, what would be the equivalent now to this?