Jennifer Cohen (host)

I wanted to know, because like just being around her at that time when her career was like the biggest of all time, you must have just gleaned so much information from her and learned just so much.

Right.

That's true.

It's good.

But when you have people like that around you or people that you can learn from, you should take that opportunity.

Right?

So what was the top lesson that Madonna then taught you?

I think it's also what I say is that you got to build habits, like that routine, like habits are what keep you doing a thing day in, day out, right?

If things are not habits, it's easy to forget.

Like you're right, brushing your teeth, like just how people brush their teeth, they should be going to the gym or they should be working out or moving their body.

But they treat it like, you know, like it's a hassle.

It's like a secondary thing that's completely unnecessary.

But all that, like to me, like your exercise time or your workout should be like fundamentally primary in your day.

You're wearing your glasses now.

Can I see what you look like?

You don't listen to music when you're working out?

Oh, yeah.

Tell me.

Yeah.

I want to know what your routine is when you are training.