Jeremy Boreing

And in retrospect, it feels like these were just very small moves that were happening, but they were pronounced moves at the time. In fact, many right-of-center commentators and journalists at that time, even many who now are on the correct side of the issue, who now have done heroic work since having the scales lifted from their eyes, nevertheless, in those days, they were not on our side.

They were... supportive of, again, I call them so-called trans rights because I'm not sure that there is a right to mutilate your body in service of a delusion. And there's certainly not a right to mutilate children in service of a delusion. We weren't the only people in the fight, and I don't mean to imply that we were, but it was lonely. There were not many, and we were leading.

They were... supportive of, again, I call them so-called trans rights because I'm not sure that there is a right to mutilate your body in service of a delusion. And there's certainly not a right to mutilate children in service of a delusion. We weren't the only people in the fight, and I don't mean to imply that we were, but it was lonely. There were not many, and we were leading.

They were... supportive of, again, I call them so-called trans rights because I'm not sure that there is a right to mutilate your body in service of a delusion. And there's certainly not a right to mutilate children in service of a delusion. We weren't the only people in the fight, and I don't mean to imply that we were, but it was lonely. There were not many, and we were leading.

And our outspokenness on the issue came with a very real price. The truth is we couldn't have imagined how great a price it would ultimately be. And I'm going to tell you a little bit about that as we go through today. But we were warned. In 2019, as the company was really starting to get its sea legs, we were really starting to break through. We were really starting to have success.

And our outspokenness on the issue came with a very real price. The truth is we couldn't have imagined how great a price it would ultimately be. And I'm going to tell you a little bit about that as we go through today. But we were warned. In 2019, as the company was really starting to get its sea legs, we were really starting to break through. We were really starting to have success.

And our outspokenness on the issue came with a very real price. The truth is we couldn't have imagined how great a price it would ultimately be. And I'm going to tell you a little bit about that as we go through today. But we were warned. In 2019, as the company was really starting to get its sea legs, we were really starting to break through. We were really starting to have success.

We were being courted by one of the big three Hollywood talent agencies. And an agent at one of these, a top agent at one of these top agencies with whom I've cultivated a friendship. I think he's a good guy. I'm not going to say his name because I don't want him to take a lot of flack for this. Nevertheless, he called me and he said, listen, we love you guys.

We were being courted by one of the big three Hollywood talent agencies. And an agent at one of these, a top agent at one of these top agencies with whom I've cultivated a friendship. I think he's a good guy. I'm not going to say his name because I don't want him to take a lot of flack for this. Nevertheless, he called me and he said, listen, we love you guys.

We were being courted by one of the big three Hollywood talent agencies. And an agent at one of these, a top agent at one of these top agencies with whom I've cultivated a friendship. I think he's a good guy. I'm not going to say his name because I don't want him to take a lot of flack for this. Nevertheless, he called me and he said, listen, we love you guys.

We think that there's huge opportunity. There are a lot of great deals to be done, but, you know, you're conservatives and we're, as an organization, pretty well populated by left-leaning Hollywood folk. I said, yeah, but you knew that when you were taking the meetings with us. Are we going to be able to do deals or not? And he said, you are 100% going to be able to do deals.

We think that there's huge opportunity. There are a lot of great deals to be done, but, you know, you're conservatives and we're, as an organization, pretty well populated by left-leaning Hollywood folk. I said, yeah, but you knew that when you were taking the meetings with us. Are we going to be able to do deals or not? And he said, you are 100% going to be able to do deals.

We think that there's huge opportunity. There are a lot of great deals to be done, but, you know, you're conservatives and we're, as an organization, pretty well populated by left-leaning Hollywood folk. I said, yeah, but you knew that when you were taking the meetings with us. Are we going to be able to do deals or not? And he said, you are 100% going to be able to do deals.

We're going to do huge deals. We're going to make a lot of money together. We're going to help you guys increase your reach, increase your effectiveness. And the truth is, we don't really care what you guys talk about. You want to talk about abortion, that's fine. You want to talk about small government, that's fine. Robust foreign policy, that's fine. We understand. But there is one thing.

We're going to do huge deals. We're going to make a lot of money together. We're going to help you guys increase your reach, increase your effectiveness. And the truth is, we don't really care what you guys talk about. You want to talk about abortion, that's fine. You want to talk about small government, that's fine. Robust foreign policy, that's fine. We understand. But there is one thing.

We're going to do huge deals. We're going to make a lot of money together. We're going to help you guys increase your reach, increase your effectiveness. And the truth is, we don't really care what you guys talk about. You want to talk about abortion, that's fine. You want to talk about small government, that's fine. Robust foreign policy, that's fine. We understand. But there is one thing.

You have got to stop talking about this trans issue. You have to understand, he told me, a lot of the people you'll be working with at the agency, I mean, this is LA, this is New York, a lot of the people you're working with at the agency have transgendered children. It's personal to them. You have to let it go. The or else was kind of implied. He didn't actually say it.

You have got to stop talking about this trans issue. You have to understand, he told me, a lot of the people you'll be working with at the agency, I mean, this is LA, this is New York, a lot of the people you're working with at the agency have transgendered children. It's personal to them. You have to let it go. The or else was kind of implied. He didn't actually say it.

You have got to stop talking about this trans issue. You have to understand, he told me, a lot of the people you'll be working with at the agency, I mean, this is LA, this is New York, a lot of the people you're working with at the agency have transgendered children. It's personal to them. You have to let it go. The or else was kind of implied. He didn't actually say it.

And again, the guy who said this, a good guy, he wasn't actually trying to threaten me. He was trying to tell me the actual reality of the situation, but it really was a devil at the crossroads moment for Ben and I. I mean, essentially we were being told you can have the world and it will only cost you your soul. And we wanted the world. You know if you work here.