Jeremy Corbyn

Do you?

Yes, of course.

But then the Labour Party, the meetings afterwards in the Parliamentary Labour Party were horrendous.

The levels of abuse were unbelievable.

No, I don't cry.

No, she was very, very supportive, incredibly hardworking and very committed.

Yeah, I mean, basically an election campaign at that level, you're doing 16 to 18 hours a day.

And you get then outside your house.

You can't go out of your house because you've got all these freelance photographers kicking each other to get a picture and stuff like that.

So it's not an easy time.

Oh my goodness.

To me, one of the most joyous moments was watching on television Nelson Mandela coming out of Victor Wurster prison.

Striding out, proud, undefeated, after years and years and years imprisonment.

And then I was invited by the South African government to go and observe their application to the International Court of Justice at The Hague last year.

South Africa, South Africa, having been through apartheid, is now repaying the world for its solidarity.

It was amazing.

No, things can change and do change.

Things can change and they do change.

The best meeting was again probably with Mandela because when he came out of prison, he then went on a sort of tour around the world and he went to Cuba and he went to, you know, a lot of places.

And then eventually he came to Britain.