Jeremy Hunt

But can I just say, welfare reform is one.

That has a pretty immediate impact.

For Rachel Reeves thinking about, you know, finding money within her fiscal rules, that would be a big help.

But the other one,

that has a very immediate impact, which I know you, Robert, talk about a lot on the different media channels you're on, is bringing down energy prices.

Because literally everything in the economy uses energy.

And we have the highest energy prices for business about, you know, they're about...

75% lower in America, but even in France, they're 35% lower.

And this is something where I think we have the madness of the four largest offshore wind farms in the world off the North Sea.

And yet we have to switch off half the electricity they generate.

Here's the funny thing, Steph.

This is, you know, one of the things that probably Rachel Reeves and I actually have in common.

We always get hit hardest by the commentators who say Britain's going to suffer the most.

And then we always get the biggest upgrades when afterwards they say we're not actually quite as different to other countries.

And we've just had an upgrade this week.

And the truth is actually that we have not done badly compared, you know, over the last 15 years, we've grown faster than countries like France and Germany and Japan.

But we haven't done as well as we need to.

And the point about this book, what I'm trying to say to people, actually, put aside your party politics.

Actually, we can do this.

And there are some very practical things we need to do.