Jeremy Hunt

But let's deal with that issue because I think – by the way –

You know, previous books I've written about how to fix the NHS.

I had exactly the same question.

You were the longest serving health secretary.

Why didn't you do this stuff?

Truth is, you do learn things in office.

You know, when you finish a big job, there are things that you discover or uncover or learn that you didn't know when you started.

That's democracy, isn't it?

That's democracy.

I mean, you know, Rachel Reeves had not been chancellor until 2024.

And I'm sure that she would say that she's learned a hell of a lot of things about the economy and the way that job works in the last couple of years.

And, you know, democracy, we choose ordinary people to do these big jobs.

And actually, you want them to learn on the job.

And I would say you actually want them to try and reflect honestly on what they got right and wrong.

But I want to answer the big question, Robert, you said, because if you look at that 14 years,

It is absolutely true that growth remained anemic about that 1% a year.

So that's not wrong.

But you have to understand the context, a global financial crisis, which left us a deficit of 10% of GDP.

So the government when...

we came to office was borrowing nearly one pound in every four that we spent.