Jeremy Scahill

It was, it was us, but yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I think generally I'm against nuclear proliferation.

I think that we should be trying to drastically scale down the amount of nuclear weapons that we have around the world, like as a global community kind of thing.

I mean, I can see kind of the argument for

You know, maybe the U.S.

would be less likely or less aggressive in trying to do, let's say, like a future war with China, knowing that they have nuclear weapons.

That's, you know, a conventional war.

Maybe that would lead to millions and millions of people dying.

I don't know if that's going to stop us from, you know, trying to do that at all.

But, yeah, I mean, in a general sense, I'm against nuclear proliferation.

But if the specific question is about Iran itself,

I don't think as many in the U.S.

government and the Israeli government would claim that the Iranians are suicidal and that if they got their hands on a nuke, they would instantly try to blow up Israel or blow up the region.

And obviously that would result in the destruction of their country as well.

I think they're relatively rational actors and they would want it for self-preservation purposes and for a deterrent purpose.

I think if...

maybe we can cut a deal.

Let's do this.

Let's say Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon and Israel has to give up their nuclear weapons as well.

I think that's a fair trade-off that we can meet in the middle on.