Jeremy Scahill

That's right.

That's what Scott Besson told me.

So one of our aircraft carriers in the region had to limp back to shore after an alleged laundry fire.

What impact does that have on our abilities in the region?

You know, I believe there's just one aircraft carrier in the area now.

You know, how much does that matter?

So Strait of Hormuz obviously has become a central question in this war, a central objective in this war, even though if we just hadn't started the war, everything would have been fine there.

But in any case, they've abandoned their- Well, it's not a war.

Right.

It's an excursion or whatever the term of art is now.

In any case, we've abandoned, and there was a Washington Post report about this, we've abandoned the idea of completely destroying their ability to produce a nuclear weapon.

We've abandoned the idea of regime change.

So now we're just trying to basically undo some of the damage that was done.

Trump, we played this earlier in the show, was like, maybe me and the Ayatollah are going to control the straight of our moves together.

Okay.

What would it actually take, though, to forcibly...

take control of the Strait of Hormuz and make it safe enough that ships feel they can navigate that without getting clipped by a drone or whatever.

Yeah.

Well, I would respectfully suggest that Israel is the mothership of terrorism in the region.

I get your point.