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And I probably would have been better off just setting aside all the ORMs all the years and just being like, learn SQL really, really, really good. And I'd probably be a better developer. And so I've changed my mind about that. It's probably too late for me. But for you youngsters, maybe invest in SQL. However, my addendum to that sentence is, but not really anymore.

And I probably would have been better off just setting aside all the ORMs all the years and just being like, learn SQL really, really, really good. And I'd probably be a better developer. And so I've changed my mind about that. It's probably too late for me. But for you youngsters, maybe invest in SQL. However, my addendum to that sentence is, but not really anymore.

That's because you know what is really good at writing SQL is language models. They're just really good at it. And so do you have to learn it anymore? I don't know. I guess you have to be able to try to use it after your LLM has written it for you and make sure that it works the way it's supposed to. But I haven't written a SQL query in a couple of years now by myself.

That's because you know what is really good at writing SQL is language models. They're just really good at it. And so do you have to learn it anymore? I don't know. I guess you have to be able to try to use it after your LLM has written it for you and make sure that it works the way it's supposed to. But I haven't written a SQL query in a couple of years now by myself.

And so there's my addendum is like, maybe we don't have to learn SQL because it's so low level. So low level, that's a weird thing to say. It's low enough of a level that your everyday developer, you know, starting today and going forward won't have to just write it directly anymore. They'll have tooling that writes it for them.

And so there's my addendum is like, maybe we don't have to learn SQL because it's so low level. So low level, that's a weird thing to say. It's low enough of a level that your everyday developer, you know, starting today and going forward won't have to just write it directly anymore. They'll have tooling that writes it for them.

So that's my change of mind, but also not so sure because of what they're doing to our workflows.

So that's my change of mind, but also not so sure because of what they're doing to our workflows.

Come on.

Come on.

Yeah. No, I absolutely think that SQL is one of those foundational technologies that I think I eschewed when I was just coming out of college because maybe I was either taught probably indirectly that it was kind of a passing fancy or it was like a thing that people are using, but it's not going to necessarily be here forever. And there are query languages that have come and gone.

Yeah. No, I absolutely think that SQL is one of those foundational technologies that I think I eschewed when I was just coming out of college because maybe I was either taught probably indirectly that it was kind of a passing fancy or it was like a thing that people are using, but it's not going to necessarily be here forever. And there are query languages that have come and gone.

I mean, I think that if you spent a lot of time investing in, for instance, MongoDB's query language, that's not useless information, but it's not broadly useful because there's just not enough databases out there that speak MongoDB query language or whatever it's called. MongoQL, I don't know. I know it's JSON-esque or JavaScript-esque.

I mean, I think that if you spent a lot of time investing in, for instance, MongoDB's query language, that's not useless information, but it's not broadly useful because there's just not enough databases out there that speak MongoDB query language or whatever it's called. MongoQL, I don't know. I know it's JSON-esque or JavaScript-esque.

And I've been leery of any database technology that comes out with a brand new query language and not SQL in addition. I think that that's a, a dangerous proposition in terms of personal investment.

And I've been leery of any database technology that comes out with a brand new query language and not SQL in addition. I think that that's a, a dangerous proposition in terms of personal investment.

But I'm not sure how much, like you said, like how much does each person need to become expert in the foundational technologies today and tomorrow versus maybe just proficient enough to guide and direct the LLMs towards success? I don't know. I feel like that's a moving target. And one that I've been more skeptical of probably in the past than I am today.

But I'm not sure how much, like you said, like how much does each person need to become expert in the foundational technologies today and tomorrow versus maybe just proficient enough to guide and direct the LLMs towards success? I don't know. I feel like that's a moving target. And one that I've been more skeptical of probably in the past than I am today.

I think it's progressing at a more steady clip of I'm talking about language model advancement is progressing out of a steadier clip than I thought it would. And they're getting better. but yet still not ultimately reliable. So there you go. There's my change of mind.

I think it's progressing at a more steady clip of I'm talking about language model advancement is progressing out of a steadier clip than I thought it would. And they're getting better. but yet still not ultimately reliable. So there you go. There's my change of mind.