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And I do. And I do. But like, it was so, the person had done it so much. I was like, yeah. I can only laugh a few times like that until I'm like, I'm not giving you one. Yeah. I'll give you a couple. And after like three or four, I'm like, explain that one to me. Cause I want to laugh with you. And I feel like a fool. Cause I, it sounds funny. Give it, give it to me.

And I do. And I do. But like, it was so, the person had done it so much. I was like, yeah. I can only laugh a few times like that until I'm like, I'm not giving you one. Yeah. I'll give you a couple. And after like three or four, I'm like, explain that one to me. Cause I want to laugh with you. And I feel like a fool. Cause I, it sounds funny. Give it, give it to me.

So anyways, it's been a minute, Johnny, like way too many minutes. You're like one of my favorite people in the entire world. Every time I see you in person, I want to give you the biggest hug ever. You're such a cool dude. You're such an inspiration, really, too. And I think the joy you have for all you do is infectious. That's my favorite thing about you. Always the big smile.

So anyways, it's been a minute, Johnny, like way too many minutes. You're like one of my favorite people in the entire world. Every time I see you in person, I want to give you the biggest hug ever. You're such a cool dude. You're such an inspiration, really, too. And I think the joy you have for all you do is infectious. That's my favorite thing about you. Always the big smile.

Always welcoming to people. Always kind. And I think those are some traits we admire to have in life.

Always welcoming to people. Always kind. And I think those are some traits we admire to have in life.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, absolutely.

I don't have my journal near me, but I do journal. And I just journal to the day, that kind of thing. And the paraphrase of what I journal was, it could always be worse. It doesn't mean you should always be like, oh, man, I can't be sad about my circumstances. It's more like, you know what? It really could be worse. I mean, because my family has been through some things. We've had loss.

I don't have my journal near me, but I do journal. And I just journal to the day, that kind of thing. And the paraphrase of what I journal was, it could always be worse. It doesn't mean you should always be like, oh, man, I can't be sad about my circumstances. It's more like, you know what? It really could be worse. I mean, because my family has been through some things. We've had loss.

We've had just various things throughout our years. And it really could always be worse. So find the joy, the glass half full versus half empty in life. And so I don't know that that's specific for you, but you just said so. But my demeanor for you has always been, or my assumption of your demeanor has always been, man, you're just so joyful to be around.

We've had just various things throughout our years. And it really could always be worse. So find the joy, the glass half full versus half empty in life. And so I don't know that that's specific for you, but you just said so. But my demeanor for you has always been, or my assumption of your demeanor has always been, man, you're just so joyful to be around.

You're always happy, always smiling, always bringing something fun, never a downer, never a complainer, you know, in any way, shape or form. So I've always appreciated that about you.

You're always happy, always smiling, always bringing something fun, never a downer, never a complainer, you know, in any way, shape or form. So I've always appreciated that about you.

I remember vividly because it felt like firing, and I'm not a firing kind of person. I don't like to deliver bad news to anybody, but I'm also naturally comfortable in confrontation. Not fist fight confrontation, but more like if I've got to deliver bad news, I think you could probably tell me right here now on the podcast, Johnny, if I was gracious about it. I feel like I was. Yeah, you were.

I remember vividly because it felt like firing, and I'm not a firing kind of person. I don't like to deliver bad news to anybody, but I'm also naturally comfortable in confrontation. Not fist fight confrontation, but more like if I've got to deliver bad news, I think you could probably tell me right here now on the podcast, Johnny, if I was gracious about it. I feel like I was. Yeah, you were.

But I really tried to be kind-hearted in delivering not always positive news. And I really can't remember what it was. I think we were early on even, I would say potentially even green. We hadn't had the network yet. Jared and I had only done this single podcast. It was our first non-Changelog show. Right.

But I really tried to be kind-hearted in delivering not always positive news. And I really can't remember what it was. I think we were early on even, I would say potentially even green. We hadn't had the network yet. Jared and I had only done this single podcast. It was our first non-Changelog show. Right.