Jerod

Yeah. And it seems like, I mean, we all should be rooting for Matt and the WordPress side, right? The open source side. Because that's what...

Yeah. And it seems like, I mean, we all should be rooting for Matt and the WordPress side, right? The open source side. Because that's what...

what so many people that we know try and do is like find some way to fund open source in a meaningful way and this is the same thing wordpress is a massively successful project but at the end of the day it is an open source project that needs funding it needs people to work on it it needs all that maintenance because as i personally found out it's quite easy to to get in there and hack now that wasn't wordpress fault probably it was probably just poor security on my

what so many people that we know try and do is like find some way to fund open source in a meaningful way and this is the same thing wordpress is a massively successful project but at the end of the day it is an open source project that needs funding it needs people to work on it it needs all that maintenance because as i personally found out it's quite easy to to get in there and hack now that wasn't wordpress fault probably it was probably just poor security on my

my Linode instance. I'll blame myself for that.

my Linode instance. I'll blame myself for that.

Which would be database costs on WP Engine's side.

Which would be database costs on WP Engine's side.

But it is a config setting. It is. It makes total sense to me, especially if it's, I don't know because I don't use it, but if it is something that you could easily just go flip on, then it seems totally acceptable. If you're actually someone who cares, it's not gone. It's right there. But yeah, I don't know. This seems like a new angle for sustainable open source, which is just attack.

But it is a config setting. It is. It makes total sense to me, especially if it's, I don't know because I don't use it, but if it is something that you could easily just go flip on, then it seems totally acceptable. If you're actually someone who cares, it's not gone. It's right there. But yeah, I don't know. This seems like a new angle for sustainable open source, which is just attack.

And I don't know that that's the right way.

And I don't know that that's the right way.

I didn't read Will Smith's blog post on this situation, so it carried more weight being on stage.

I didn't read Will Smith's blog post on this situation, so it carried more weight being on stage.

It's two orders of magnitude.

It's two orders of magnitude.

It is a huge difference, for sure. But I don't know. I keep coming back to how many companies are massively profiting on the backs of open source developers and contribute nothing back?

It is a huge difference, for sure. But I don't know. I keep coming back to how many companies are massively profiting on the backs of open source developers and contribute nothing back?

It's okay. There you go. He can leave it to the experts on WordPress like me to talk about this. That's right. That's right.

It's okay. There you go. He can leave it to the experts on WordPress like me to talk about this. That's right. That's right.