Jerod

Yeah, 100% agree. I have self-hosted many things throughout my life and I learned so much doing so. Both production and small business and friends and family stuff, whether it's self-hosted on machines in my house, which I have done for a long time. I had a Linux server that ran in my home and I ran all kinds of services off of that.

Yeah, 100% agree. I have self-hosted many things throughout my life and I learned so much doing so. Both production and small business and friends and family stuff, whether it's self-hosted on machines in my house, which I have done for a long time. I had a Linux server that ran in my home and I ran all kinds of services off of that.

And then also VPS, self-hosting, shared hosting, self-hosting, just managing your own things. And yeah, the amount of learning is really not to be compared with. You can't fake it. It's just real. But the learning comes through trial and it comes through things going wrong. And this post that he writes is like,

And then also VPS, self-hosting, shared hosting, self-hosting, just managing your own things. And yeah, the amount of learning is really not to be compared with. You can't fake it. It's just real. But the learning comes through trial and it comes through things going wrong. And this post that he writes is like,

Here are the, one of the sections is like things that broke in the last six months, you know?

Here are the, one of the sections is like things that broke in the last six months, you know?

And it's like, yeah, you're going to have that kind of stuff. And it's similar to any sort of maintenance. I don't know how many large appliances and vehicles you own, Adam, but you and I are both old enough to know a house, a car, a laundry machine, anything that's significantly expensive and significantly complicated breaks, right? And when you own it, you own the break, you know?

And it's like, yeah, you're going to have that kind of stuff. And it's similar to any sort of maintenance. I don't know how many large appliances and vehicles you own, Adam, but you and I are both old enough to know a house, a car, a laundry machine, anything that's significantly expensive and significantly complicated breaks, right? And when you own it, you own the break, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you're going to either pay to fix it or learn to fix it. And for me as a guy in my forties with a pretty large family, I don't have the patience or the time to self-host anymore, but I think everybody else should. Not everybody else, but given your circumstance, I think everyone should try it. And some people should do it.

And you're going to either pay to fix it or learn to fix it. And for me as a guy in my forties with a pretty large family, I don't have the patience or the time to self-host anymore, but I think everybody else should. Not everybody else, but given your circumstance, I think everyone should try it. And some people should do it.

And there's certainly things that I've thought about self-hosting, even though I don't have the time, because of privacy and autonomy and the independence that Christian speaks of. For me, more importantly than the learning, because I've already learned enough, I think, in the category, is there are things where I want the independence and the privacy.

And there's certainly things that I've thought about self-hosting, even though I don't have the time, because of privacy and autonomy and the independence that Christian speaks of. For me, more importantly than the learning, because I've already learned enough, I think, in the category, is there are things where I want the independence and the privacy.

And so that's why I consider it, even though I don't want to do it, because I know how much of a headache it can be

And so that's why I consider it, even though I don't want to do it, because I know how much of a headache it can be

Yeah. I'm definitely not in the, for me specifically, Adam, you must self-host all the things camp. I'm not in that camp.

Yeah. I'm definitely not in the, for me specifically, Adam, you must self-host all the things camp. I'm not in that camp.

Well, I asked you to self-host Zulip and you were like, eh, you're on the show. Remember that? No, I was like, I was not excited.

Well, I asked you to self-host Zulip and you were like, eh, you're on the show. Remember that? No, I was like, I was not excited.