Jerod

Do you think that this is a list of shiny objects that can be distractions and or just simply things that need to be shaved like yaks?

Do you think that this is a list of shiny objects that can be distractions and or just simply things that need to be shaved like yaks?

I don't know because nerds are going to nerd out. I feel like some of this stuff is probably him nerding out, which is totally...

I don't know because nerds are going to nerd out. I feel like some of this stuff is probably him nerding out, which is totally...

fine to do so in the case of that like define productive if this is what you enjoy he obviously enjoys it so it's almost like similar to gardening where if you don't love gardening don't go plant a big garden because it's a whole bunch of work and the people who continue and persist in that They love the work. They love the process. And so for them, that's what it's all about.

fine to do so in the case of that like define productive if this is what you enjoy he obviously enjoys it so it's almost like similar to gardening where if you don't love gardening don't go plant a big garden because it's a whole bunch of work and the people who continue and persist in that They love the work. They love the process. And so for them, that's what it's all about.

And so, yeah, I mean, there's certainly some yak shaving going on. But, you know, if you enjoy shaving yaks, you get a yak, don't talk back. I don't know. I just got stuck on yak there. But go ahead. Christian closes with this, which might be a good end cap to our discussion. He says, If you're a software engineer, I recommend self-hosting things.

And so, yeah, I mean, there's certainly some yak shaving going on. But, you know, if you enjoy shaving yaks, you get a yak, don't talk back. I don't know. I just got stuck on yak there. But go ahead. Christian closes with this, which might be a good end cap to our discussion. He says, If you're a software engineer, I recommend self-hosting things.

You learn a whole bunch of things through forced exposure to problems that you'll be less likely to encounter in your day job, which in itself is a benefit. Even better, I do believe you'll wind up using at least some of these things in your day job eventually, provided you work on something vaguely backend related.

You learn a whole bunch of things through forced exposure to problems that you'll be less likely to encounter in your day job, which in itself is a benefit. Even better, I do believe you'll wind up using at least some of these things in your day job eventually, provided you work on something vaguely backend related.

By hosting stuff yourself, you also get a reasonable level of autonomy or at the very least some hedging against the corporate dream of your entire life being a perpetually rented subscription. I think that's nice. Poetic. Good ender. I mean, it's certainly romantic. That part gets me.

By hosting stuff yourself, you also get a reasonable level of autonomy or at the very least some hedging against the corporate dream of your entire life being a perpetually rented subscription. I think that's nice. Poetic. Good ender. I mean, it's certainly romantic. That part gets me.

That does get me. Not enough to do it, but enough to appreciate it. That's where I'm at. Cause like he mentions next cloud in one of his services. I don't want to be, I mean, maybe I do at some point, but I don't, at least right now, I don't want to be responsible for calendars being up, photos being up, file services being up. I mean, I just seems like, Ooh, but maybe next time makes it easy.

That does get me. Not enough to do it, but enough to appreciate it. That's where I'm at. Cause like he mentions next cloud in one of his services. I don't want to be, I mean, maybe I do at some point, but I don't, at least right now, I don't want to be responsible for calendars being up, photos being up, file services being up. I mean, I just seems like, Ooh, but maybe next time makes it easy.

I just feel like in the moment without having tried it, it feels like a lot. And I speak to that because of the rented subscription. Right. The easiest place you spend money is like Dropbox. Calendar, I guess, comes with our Google Suite for our business. And in other cases, you're getting it for... Or iCloud if you have an iCloud account. Yeah.

I just feel like in the moment without having tried it, it feels like a lot. And I speak to that because of the rented subscription. Right. The easiest place you spend money is like Dropbox. Calendar, I guess, comes with our Google Suite for our business. And in other cases, you're getting it for... Or iCloud if you have an iCloud account. Yeah.

So you're, you are on this, you will own nothing and be happy, you know, world forum, world economic forum prediction several years back where it's like someone famously said and infamously, maybe even infamously said, you will own nothing and be happy. I just don't know about that. Like the perpetual, it feels like a long-term debt that society puts on you. Yeah.

So you're, you are on this, you will own nothing and be happy, you know, world forum, world economic forum prediction several years back where it's like someone famously said and infamously, maybe even infamously said, you will own nothing and be happy. I just don't know about that. Like the perpetual, it feels like a long-term debt that society puts on you. Yeah.

Like to own an iPhone, you kind of inherit a level of perceived debt. Necessary cost to maintain the service.

Like to own an iPhone, you kind of inherit a level of perceived debt. Necessary cost to maintain the service.