Jess Bravin
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard May 2025
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Or another way is that President Trump has also done sort of the other way around, that if the president doesn't like it, it's illegal. Because if you listened to his speech at the Department of Justice last week, a very long speech, and he described many activities that normally are protected by the First Amendment as illegal.
He described news reports as illegal because they were not flattering to him. Now— I don't know that any action is going to follow from that. That's something that's always an unknown with President Trump, right? I mean, how much of the rhetoric then becomes policy. This term, the rhetoric is becoming policy a lot more than it was in the first term.
I mean, you know, think back in his first term when universities did things he didn't like. He said, you know, all their federal funding should be cut off. But that didn't happen. This term, that is happening. And universities are towing the lines.
Well, I cover the Supreme Court, so I've got to put them in my bracket.
Today, the Supreme Court took up the TikTok ban.
The justices will determine whether or not the law banning TikTok in the U.S. will go ahead. It's slated to go into effect January 19th.
That's our colleague Jess Braven, who covers the Supreme Court. Big picture, what's at stake in this hearing?
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Kate Leinbaugh. It's Friday, January 10th. Coming up on the show... Will the Supreme Court uphold the TikTok ban?
After Congress passed a law last year that threatened TikTok, people on the platform had big reactions.
TikTok went to court to block the law. And that's how this case got to the Supreme Court today. First up was TikTok. The company's lawyer, Noel Francisco, laid out TikTok's arguments that the law was a violation of the First Amendment, of TikTok's freedom of speech.
How did the justices respond to the TikTok argument?
Here's Justice Samuel Alito in questioning, saying that because ByteDance isn't a U.S. company, the First Amendment doesn't apply.
Justice Elena Kagan asked TikTok's lawyer outright if ByteDance's algorithm can be separated from the platform.
ByteDance has control of the algorithm that serves TikTok users their videos. And the justices kept pressing TikTok's lawyer on whether the app could operate without that algorithm. Here's Justice Katonji Brown-Jackson.
After the justices were done grilling Francisco, Jeffrey Fisher, a lawyer representing creators on TikTok, stepped up. Fisher argued against the ban and called TikTok the most vibrant speech forum in the U.S.
What did you make of the arguments from Jeffrey Fisher, the lawyer for the TikTok creators?
After his opening statement, Fisher faced questions from justices, starting with Clarence Thomas.
TikTok's lawyer Francisco also suggested that if the court doesn't throw out the law, it should at least postpone it. President-elect Trump had asked the court to pause the TikTok shutdown until after he takes office. At the end of the hearing, Francisco had a final thought.
Overall, how convincing do you think the lawyers were for TikTok and the creators?
Coming up, what the government argued and how the Supreme Court justices responded.
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