Jess Janz

I can't say that.

Do you know what I mean?

I know.

I was like, woo, we're not just hanging out.

You know, like, are we inviting Norbert?

Like maybe that's the deeper, that's like the next layer to this of like, how are we interacting with the Norbert for ones around us when we're out for dinner?

And of course that it's like, you might be celebrating an anniversary.

Maybe that's the only night a week that you and your partner have to like catch up and connect and like

That's OK.

But are we in general in the way that we move through our communities and in our neighborhoods, like interacting and like inviting more people to speak with us, whether it's sitting down for dinner is a significant, you know, commitment of time.

Uh, but I think, I think that we kind of practice individualism in the way that we move through our day to day.

And that's like another element to this of like, are we, we look at Norbert and we're like, you're so sad, but we're like, okay, am I interacting with Norbert at any point throughout my movement throughout the neighborhood?

Yeah, well, I've been running this dinner since 2017.

It started in my friend's hair studio, and I would invite four friends who didn't know each other, and he would invite four friends who didn't know each other, and the only rule is that no one can say what they do for work.

I like that.

Which is...

So fascinating.

Either people people love it because they like don't particularly like, you know, they're like, my job is fine, whatever, neutral to not liking their job.

And then other people like twitch out if they have their entire identity and their job.

So both ways, it's like a good character building experience.