Jess Kelly

It should only be in certain instances.

So I thought about that and I was like, geez, that is a good point.

But then I was reflecting on points that you've made to me in the past, which is,

social media isn't the only part of the internet where harmful content can be assumed, accessed.

And the assumption that, you know, it's either social media or porn and that's the height of the bad stuff on the internet, that's not accurate.

And it also gives them that workaround to access TikTok or whatever it is via a browser.

So in my head, the verification through the App Store is the solution that does make the most amount of sense to me.

What's your view on that?

We do, we do.

And I think when I look at what's happened in Australia and even Jota O'Brien from Meta made this point, the ban came into play for under-16s.

But every bit of, you know, research or reporting that has come out in the wake of this shows that kids now are grouping together, finding each other online on other apps that don't fall within the very strict limitations of the social media ban.

And so I always come back to the same points in that I don't think bans work.

And I also think it comes down to education as well.

I was struck by TikTok saying at the Oireachtas Media Committee on Thursday that, you know, they send out leaflets to schools.

But I've heard from teachers that say, we don't have time to be addressing all of these things as well.

But we do need to find an education portal.

We do need to facilitate more conversations and awareness for both parents and young people.

Because, you know,

You're dead right.

This has to be a universal understanding of what's acceptable, what's not acceptable, what's legal, what's illegal, what's right and what's wrong.