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I think the whole world did that, didn't they? I mean, I think everybody reached out to anybody they could because we all felt so isolated. Any kind of connection you could make with somebody, you kind of held on tight to it because you couldn't see most of the people in your life unless they lived with you.
I think the whole world did that, didn't they? I mean, I think everybody reached out to anybody they could because we all felt so isolated. Any kind of connection you could make with somebody, you kind of held on tight to it because you couldn't see most of the people in your life unless they lived with you.
I was sitting on the side porch. I smoked at the time. I smoked cigarettes. So I didn't smoke in my house. I have children. So I stepped outside to smoke and I just called him. Did you feel nervous about doing that? No.
I was sitting on the side porch. I smoked at the time. I smoked cigarettes. So I didn't smoke in my house. I have children. So I stepped outside to smoke and I just called him. Did you feel nervous about doing that? No.
I'm very, I hate to say impulsive because that's not necessarily my entire personality, but a lot of stuff, if I want to do it, I just do it. I don't know. I'm very direct. It doesn't help me make friends. Nicole had told him that I was going to call. And so when I called, he said, oh, hey, darling, how are you? He had a very grandfatherly Southern drawl, just very approachable.
I'm very, I hate to say impulsive because that's not necessarily my entire personality, but a lot of stuff, if I want to do it, I just do it. I don't know. I'm very direct. It doesn't help me make friends. Nicole had told him that I was going to call. And so when I called, he said, oh, hey, darling, how are you? He had a very grandfatherly Southern drawl, just very approachable.
And I was like, oh, this guy's not scary. He sounds like anybody's grandpa. And I just said, tell me what's going on. And that's, he just started talking.
And I was like, oh, this guy's not scary. He sounds like anybody's grandpa. And I just said, tell me what's going on. And that's, he just started talking.
He had told us that the phone pinged in Arkansas by Lake Bemel, and it could have pinged within a 30-mile radius.
He had told us that the phone pinged in Arkansas by Lake Bemel, and it could have pinged within a 30-mile radius.
So we started like going on maps and finding out what could be within a 30 mile radius of where her phone pinged and just trying to figure out where she could be, what cabins were for rent, where she could stay, what lake is over there, what tiny lake, even if it's not the big lake, there's something else, a pond or whatever.
So we started like going on maps and finding out what could be within a 30 mile radius of where her phone pinged and just trying to figure out where she could be, what cabins were for rent, where she could stay, what lake is over there, what tiny lake, even if it's not the big lake, there's something else, a pond or whatever.
We called all the Uber and Lyft hubs that we could to see if their drivers kept track of who they would pick up because she said she hired a ride.
We called all the Uber and Lyft hubs that we could to see if their drivers kept track of who they would pick up because she said she hired a ride.
My text messages, 2.27 p.m., 3.15 p.m., same days, just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, throwing ideas at each other. It was obsessive.
My text messages, 2.27 p.m., 3.15 p.m., same days, just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, throwing ideas at each other. It was obsessive.
He would talk and talk and talk. So he'd give us information. He'd give us names. He would give us phone numbers.
He would talk and talk and talk. So he'd give us information. He'd give us names. He would give us phone numbers.
So all of us wear masks, right? At first, it was almost like copying the way he talked to me. I'd talk back to him that way to try to make it so it's easier for us to communicate. And then we'd go off on little talks.
So all of us wear masks, right? At first, it was almost like copying the way he talked to me. I'd talk back to him that way to try to make it so it's easier for us to communicate. And then we'd go off on little talks.