Jesse Granger

What else we got?

I also, I also look at not that you'd be stuck necessarily, but I would look at Marcus Pedersen as a hold.

He has two more years left before it becomes a 15 team.

No trade as opposed to the 15 teams.

Pretty powerful for sure.

But at least it becomes, I think a little more doable.

I also, I'm not saying I would pass on a Marcus Pedersen.

Like if he was into it and team comes calling fine, whatever, but I don't look at it as like, I have to get this done this summer.

Yeah, so we're down to Besser, Hronik, Pettersson, DeBrusque.

Three.

So three would be a perfect?

Three would be an A?

Yeah, well, it depends on the returns and the shapes of the deal, of course.

To some extent.

Honestly, only to some extent.

Conceptually, if we're sitting here in...

September before on the eve of training camp and they've traded Elias Pettersson, Philip Roenick and Jake DeBrusque in like totally reasonable, fair deals that I would be very bullish on that.

Very, very bullish on what that signals for what the rebuild is going to look like.

Yeah.

Like that.