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Jesse Liu

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546 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Like every company is doing this. We have other agent company like Motel, even the GPTs are doing this, right? So this is like a new wave emerging for all this old services that they have to think about.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

Like every company is doing this. We have other agent company like Motel, even the GPTs are doing this, right? So this is like a new wave emerging for all this old services that they have to think about.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I can tell you my personal experience dealing with scenarios like this, like when we first start building one of the first smart speakers back in like 2013, you know, like all this music label, they don't care. They don't care until everyone's building smart speakers. They're like, okay, we have to resell the whole copyrights for this particular phone factor.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I can tell you my personal experience dealing with scenarios like this, like when we first start building one of the first smart speakers back in like 2013, you know, like all this music label, they don't care. They don't care until everyone's building smart speakers. They're like, okay, we have to resell the whole copyrights for this particular phone factor.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But I can tell you my personal experience dealing with scenarios like this, like when we first start building one of the first smart speakers back in like 2013, you know, like all this music label, they don't care. They don't care until everyone's building smart speakers. They're like, okay, we have to resell the whole copyrights for this particular phone factor.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I guess end of day is about money, right? They want to sell the same copyrights to as many phone factors they want and if there's a popular one. So we're okay to have this kind of negotiations, but certainly, like you said, there's bigger companies that are doing similar things or even more advanced things that needs to be addressed. I'll give you another example, like Siri and Microsoft.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I guess end of day is about money, right? They want to sell the same copyrights to as many phone factors they want and if there's a popular one. So we're okay to have this kind of negotiations, but certainly, like you said, there's bigger companies that are doing similar things or even more advanced things that needs to be addressed. I'll give you another example, like Siri and Microsoft.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I guess end of day is about money, right? They want to sell the same copyrights to as many phone factors they want and if there's a popular one. So we're okay to have this kind of negotiations, but certainly, like you said, there's bigger companies that are doing similar things or even more advanced things that needs to be addressed. I'll give you another example, like Siri and Microsoft.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

There's a feature called Microsoft Recall, which they put back that feature now, and I think they relaunch it, which is very aggressive. That is taking a screenshot of your local computer This is what I saw was happening in AI in the early days. There's going to be a lot of different takes and tries, and eventually people will reconcile and agree on a single piece of terms and agreements.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

There's a feature called Microsoft Recall, which they put back that feature now, and I think they relaunch it, which is very aggressive. That is taking a screenshot of your local computer This is what I saw was happening in AI in the early days. There's going to be a lot of different takes and tries, and eventually people will reconcile and agree on a single piece of terms and agreements.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

There's a feature called Microsoft Recall, which they put back that feature now, and I think they relaunch it, which is very aggressive. That is taking a screenshot of your local computer This is what I saw was happening in AI in the early days. There's going to be a lot of different takes and tries, and eventually people will reconcile and agree on a single piece of terms and agreements.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But if you check how we automate the website to their interface, the most important part is we don't create a fake user. We don't create a spam user. We don't log in on your behalf. And you are you. The way I help you to do things is by help you click the buttons and mouse. It's equivalent of if I want my body to help me, I'll give you an example. So if I'm busy, I'm about to head into a meeting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But if you check how we automate the website to their interface, the most important part is we don't create a fake user. We don't create a spam user. We don't log in on your behalf. And you are you. The way I help you to do things is by help you click the buttons and mouse. It's equivalent of if I want my body to help me, I'll give you an example. So if I'm busy, I'm about to head into a meeting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

But if you check how we automate the website to their interface, the most important part is we don't create a fake user. We don't create a spam user. We don't log in on your behalf. And you are you. The way I help you to do things is by help you click the buttons and mouse. It's equivalent of if I want my body to help me, I'll give you an example. So if I'm busy, I'm about to head into a meeting.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I want my buddy to help me order a burger from DoorDash. All I need to do is I unlock my phone. I pass my phone to my guy and my guy helped me click that. And in this process, I'm not sharing my credentials to my body, right? I'm not telling my phone password. I'm not telling my DoorDash password. I'm not even sharing my credit card info. All he do is just add to the cart and click confirm.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I want my buddy to help me order a burger from DoorDash. All I need to do is I unlock my phone. I pass my phone to my guy and my guy helped me click that. And in this process, I'm not sharing my credentials to my body, right? I'm not telling my phone password. I'm not telling my DoorDash password. I'm not even sharing my credit card info. All he do is just add to the cart and click confirm.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

I want my buddy to help me order a burger from DoorDash. All I need to do is I unlock my phone. I pass my phone to my guy and my guy helped me click that. And in this process, I'm not sharing my credentials to my body, right? I'm not telling my phone password. I'm not telling my DoorDash password. I'm not even sharing my credit card info. All he do is just add to the cart and click confirm.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

That's it. So this guy is equivalent of the first generation of LAN, which is, unfortunately, we don't like it. So that's why we work so hard. Now we have Playground, which is more generic technology.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

That's it. So this guy is equivalent of the first generation of LAN, which is, unfortunately, we don't like it. So that's why we work so hard. Now we have Playground, which is more generic technology.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Rabbit CEO Jesse Lyu isn't thinking too far ahead

That's it. So this guy is equivalent of the first generation of LAN, which is, unfortunately, we don't like it. So that's why we work so hard. Now we have Playground, which is more generic technology.