Jesse Michels

That would be nice.

Has an anti-tail, not just a tail.

That's the problem with this whole conversation around UFOs is you have, on the one hand, most conventional astronomers not even looking at the data set often.

Like I see these guys, I think this Piers Morgan just had on this guy, I think David Kipping or something.

He seems like a really good.

Oh, I know David Kipping.

You know David.

Seems like a really, actually, I loved his episode on Rogan.

Yeah, exoplanet guy, really smart on that dimension.

But like this data set that we're talking about with UFOs showing up around nuclear weapons, just like totally ignorant of it.

And like he's talking about UFOs, but it's like as if they have to be things that are traveling from from space.

And I don't even think he's probably familiar with a lot of the NASA cases, you know, because these seem like anecdotal, small sample size, you know, conspiratorial things.

I would argue that the nuclear thing is a ubiquitous global pattern.

That you have to contend with as a scientist.

So you end up with these people who like, again, don't want to like knock him like super smart conventional guy, but like is mired in kind of current astronomical data around UFOs and just won't really look at it.

And it's all relying on, you know, it's all like, well, if the government has something, they should release it or something, but can't look at the open source stuff.

And then on the other side, it's people who are sure that it's extraterrestrial.

They're here.

They're starseeds probably, you

You know, and we have all the, it's like, you're jumping super to conclusions.