Jesse Michels

So the whole thing is so strange.

All of that's to say, I don't know if that book is a real map of reality.

I do know it was read at the highest levels of government in these sort of official working groups under National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley in I think 2006 or 2007 when the book came out, which is interesting.

Yeah.

I don't know if it's a map of reality, though.

I will say, if you were an alien civilization and you wanted to minimally interfere without, you know, necessarily altering timelines, you know, if you have kind of a point of most leverage, an Archimedes lever, so to speak, where would you...

interfere, if you really didn't want to interfere, but you had to minimally interfere, it would be at nuclear sites.

It would be at particle accelerators.

It would be at the frontier of human ingenuity and science.

Science in some ways creates the boundary for reality itself, like the boundary that we can kind of play and operate in.

You know, it really is the limits of our technology that we use.

And so why wouldn't you monitor that stuff?

You probably would.

Another theory would be that like they're sort of monitoring or mining us for something.

So like we think of resources, right, as like, you know, you have this whole rare earths thing with China where they do all the rare earth, you know, refinement or like, you know, gold or silver or like, you know, the oil or, you know, whatever.

You see what's happening in Venezuela right now, which is pretty crazy.

Maybe they think of resources as like...

emotions or something, or like, you know, like, you know, they just, Earth is somehow something that they are mining, but it's on a level that we don't understand.

And there's actually a guy named Robert Monroe, who had, you know, is this thing called the Monroe Institute in Virginia, which is still up and running, which studies consciousness, and he did a lot of contract work with the CIA.

And he thought that these alien beings were maybe mining us for loosh,