Jesse Michels

And there's a guy named Bob Jacobs, who's a photo instrumentation specialist.

And he goes up to Big Sur, which is like 80 miles up the coast.

to view this Atlas missile taking off and this dummy nuclear payload goes off the missile.

And it's supposed to be this test, right?

Vandenberg is actually supposed to just be like a missile testing site.

And he does the instrumentation.

He's like, wow, this is cool, whatever, goes back to the base.

The next day, they're reviewing the footage, and they see a saucer wrapping around the dummy nuclear payload or the reentry vehicle, and lasers being shot at it.

And it starts to get wobbly, and then it basically –

leaves orbit because of this UFO, which interferes with it.

And these two guys in tweed gray jackets are like sitting behind Bob Jacobs.

They basically swear him to secrecy.

They say, you're never to speak about this again.

They make him sign an NDA.

He is then, he eventually goes public with this.

He's threatened.

He's intimidated.

Somebody calls him and says like,

mailbox alight, what a beautiful sight or something, and his mailbox blows up, they delete his records from... They say he never served in the Air Force.

And that was literally like, as a researcher, you couldn't really say he did necessarily serve as the Air Force until...