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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
Yeah, it is ironic, which is why it can't be taken at face value.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
You know, it's like, who knows whether they're good or bad?
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
I don't know.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
But they're saying that he blacks out, he wakes up nine miles away from the base, and he doesn't know what happened.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And now all of a sudden the sun's coming up, so it's dawn, and he's freaked out.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And it's like nine miles away from Lake Newell or something, which is like, you know, yeah, it's far from the base.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And so he's like, what happened?
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
I don't know what that is.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
It's so weird.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
He ends up getting checked in what seems to be kind of a routine protocol by the base.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And they're checking his teeth and they're doing all sorts of tests on him, which implied that they have some sort of familiarity that this thing happens a lot.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And then he retains his clearance and continues working for the DOE for another 20 years, by the way.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
has no idea what happened that night, gets a hypnotic regression, which we should get into as well, because that's how a lot of these stories come out, which gets to your question of like,
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
you know, is that a valid form of memory retrieval or are you like going to make stuff up?
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
I would say it pattern matches to any extremely traumatic experience.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
Somebody, you know, if somebody experiences child abuse or something like that, often those memories get extremely repressed.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
It's adaptive for you to repress those memories and they come out in techniques like hypnotic regression.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
So he ends up getting a hypnotic regression.
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
And again, he's on this craft of
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels
operating table.