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Jesse Michels

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

Like magnesium and bismuth and other pieces that seem to have isotope ratios that don't match asteroids or anything on Earth.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

Right.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

Yeah, totally.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

So David Grush is this kind of seminal UFO whistleblower because he compiled โ€“ he was at the National GOC.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

He's a 14-year intelligence officer.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

He was an Afghanistan combat veteran.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

He handled the presidential daily brief.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

So what the president reads as far as his vantage point for what's happening in the world, David Grush was the kind of โ€“

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

courier slash you know like probably part-time editor of like what you know what's going on you know with with that which i think is you know should should add credibility um everybody who has you know come out who was a former colleague of his says he's like beyond reproach

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And he has level one autism and has literally an autistic level of detail when it comes to all of this stuff.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

In fact, he gave the intelligence community inspector general, Thomas Monheim, hundreds of pages about these reverse engineering programs in front of Congress.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

You hear AOC literally asking him, grilling him, saying, do you have the addresses of

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

of these warehouses where these UFOs are being kept.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And he goes, yeah, get me into a SCIF, which is a secure compartmentalized information facility where you can, you know, basically give classified information.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

It's basically a Faraday cage.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And he's like, just put me in there and I'll tell you, you know?

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And so this is this extremely frustrating thing for me too, because...

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

I don't like, you know, he's a friend of mine and like, I want to take him at face value.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

I do think extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

So I think you have to rank the like, you know, hundreds of nuclear, you know, whistleblowers of like something phenomenologically in our airspace being real, probably above the idea that we have literal reverse engineering programs because of the amount of data we have on one versus the other.