Jesse Michels

Somebody's going to call them, you know, and that just seems to happen over and over again.

And I do think my hope is we're able to approach a physicalist model of consciousness that involves the transmission theory and non-local consciousness.

And I think if you'll indulge me, this is probably, you know, going to be somewhat wrong, but like...

You have Roger Penrose, who's a Nobel Prize winner, amazing physicist.

He talks about microtubules and orchestrated objective reduction.

He's asking this really important question in physics, which is, how does microscopic quantum reality, which is probabilistic in nature, why don't we see that?

Why do we see macroscopic discrete reality?

I see one Andre.

I don't see a probability function of Andres.

And it's a really important question, and most physicists...

would never dare to try to even broach that topic.

But he wrote a couple of books on it.

And he says that microtubules, which are part of the cytoskeleton of a lot of cells and neurons specifically, basically...

they are involved in wave function collapse.

And they can maintain some sort of coherence, and then they decohere, and boom, you snap, you see reality.

You see kind of an eigenstate, like a specific state of reality.

You don't see the wave function anymore.

And

I don't know if that is correct.

I find it fascinating that if you shut the microtubules down with anesthesia, a body could be fully functioning, but just consciousness seems to turn off, which is why Penrose partnered with Stuart Hameroff, this anesthesiologist, on his theory.