Jesse Michels
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
You guys are on the verge of destroying yourself.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So it's just great.
And like, again, this guy's like, you know, no bad mental health history, like very lucid.
And the same month as Bob Jacobs.
And they didn't know each other.
Wow.
That's a trip.
Really trip, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, it's a great question.
And that's a that's a great quote from the great Carl Sagan.
And I think that is the case.
So but here's what I would say is I would walk back the claims of most people in UFO world.
Most people in UFO world are like, there are definitely aliens visiting us.
And they're from these three star systems.
And you have reptilians and Nordics and great, you know.
And so I would say, you know, my extraordinary claim is like, there's something worthy of investigation here.
Like, clearly, you know.
If you go bolder in your claim, I do think you need more evidence for which we don't necessarily have that evidence.