Jesse Michels

Does any part of you think that humans discovered... You know, there's this, I think, in...

Early 2000s, there was this concern of the like runaway gray goo nanotech, you know, scenarios.

And nanotech was all the rage in the early 2000s.

And then it sort of like went away.

And does any part of you think that humans can do any of this stuff like in deep black contexts?

Yeah.

Yeah, that was the gray goose scenario.

Do you think there are good and bad factions of aliens, or do you think they're all good or all bad?

No, I think there's good and bad factions.

The beings that implanted you, think good or bad?

I mean, that seems reasonable and not bad.

What do you think of modern discourse?

Why do you think they care so much about nuclear?

They seem to show up.

Some of my favorite interviews have been these guys that are often in their 70s and 80s at this point.

They worked at nuclear bases all over the U.S.

And in certain cases, they board crafts.

They have implants.

You know, they're close encounters of the third kind.

And I guess what you're calling kind of type two nuclear.