Jesse Michels

So that is an important... And then I would also say about the Michelson-Morley experiment, you know, the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

And so we just don't know, you know, but I do think...

Yeah, that's this kind of hotly debated, contested thing.

So it's a very interesting theory.

That's interesting.

I didn't know that about Robert.

Robert Millikan was at Caltech.

And Townsend Brown actually studied under him.

And then they kind of got into it because Millikan didn't really believe in Brown's stuff.

Ironically, Brown believed what you said, which is that gravity is more of a push than a pull.

And so you're saying because Millikan did a lot of the experimental proving of Einstein's photoelectric effect from 1905.

But I didn't know that he had something to do with the ether and detecting the ether.

That's fascinating.

Yeah.

Really?

Wow, fascinating.

Well, I'll have to look into that.

You know, it's interesting.

We take so many things for granted that we've never detected, like dark matter.

But the ether is completely, we're not allowed to talk about it.