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Jesse Michels

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

You have a crash that a guy named Jacques VallΓ©e, who's this French kind of godfather of UFO research, actually investigated in 1945 in Trinity in San Antonio, which is in New Mexico.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

You have 1947, which was the Roswell crash, which...

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

you know you have i think tons of evidence around where you have you know a crash occur uh uh in the town of roswell a few beings seem to to come out and this is now being talked about at the highest levels of intelligence there's a new documentary out called the age of disclosure where uh you know the the former director of national intelligence which governs all of our you know intelligence agencies

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

is in a movie that talks about Roswell, which is pretty crazy.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And that was in July of 1947.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And in September of 1947, you get the creation of, you have the National Security Act under Truman.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

You have the creation of the CIA and basically our kind of modern intelligence apparatus after the OSS.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And since then, you've had basically UFOs showing up across nuclear sites all over the country.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

So, you know, Hanford site in Washington, Savannah River site in South Carolina, Malmstrom nuclear base in Montana.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

You know, I could literally talk about individual cases in all of these places, Effie Warren in Nebraska.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

So like all over the U.S., UFOs are showing up around nukes.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

In 1947, the head of Air Material Command, who basically is responsible for all aircraft development for the Air Force, this guy named Nathan Twining, writes this famous memo to this brigadier.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

Basically, he says UFOs are not visionary or fictitious.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

Um, and he goes on to discuss the fact that they're making these sort of crazy right angle turns.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

They're flying at, you know, uh, mocks and speeds that like, you know, human aircraft simply can't fly.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

Uh, and then he goes on to say at the very end, which I think is really interesting in the postscript, he says, you know, we actually have the means to start to build things like these, but if we ever did have such a program, um,

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

If this were to happen, it would have to exist pretty much outside of the civilian bureaucracy of government.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And so then you have this idea that UFO crash retrieval programs or reverse engineering programs get kind of put under the secrecy of atomic energy secrecy.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

You have the Atomic Energy Act of 1954, and in it you have a special definition of nuclear material secrecy.

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E178 - Jesse Michels: What UFO Sightings Reveal About Power, Technology, and the Unknown | Jesse Michels

And it's basically anything emitting alpha, beta, gamma radiation that's found by any contractor, anybody, is immediately born secret.