Jesse Michels

Yeah.

And you're like, that looks like electromagnetic radiation.

And it looks like some of the stuff that Gary Nolan, again, the Stanford professor says that the CIA came knocking at his door, I think in like the mid 2010s, like 2015.

And they were like, we have all these UFO experiencers and they've experienced all these weird effects.

And it was bucketed in with some people experiencing Havana syndrome, which we now know probably come from these like microwave weapons.

Yeah.

But basically, if you take that at face value, he's looking at a lot of UFO experiencers, and they're experiencing literal radiation burns.

And then you see kind of analogs to that in ancient history, which is fascinating.

You can literally watch...

Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and you see the main character's face, you see him sunburned.

You see this literal, as if the UFO emitted this electromagnetic radiation.

And so it's like, who is giving Steven Spielberg the information in the 80s about this sort of stuff?

And you see actually crates in Close Encounters, one that says, I think, Skunk Works, and another that says TRW.

And those are the two most classified programs associated with Lockheed and Northrop.

Pretty, pretty fascinating.

And now he's, of course, coming out next year with, or this year, rather, with Disclosure Day, which is, you know, very anticipated.

So, yeah, anyways, going back to your question, I think the Angels thing is, it is instructive and it is interesting.

And you even have a guy named Chris Bledsoe, who's this UFO super experiencer in North Carolina, who's actually friends with one of your past guests, rest in peace, Robert Gilbert.

because they were going back and forth on a lot of the symbolism that Chris Bledsoe was receiving through his transmissions, through his alien interactions.

And some of them seem to maybe comport with Rosicrucian symbols and stuff.