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Jesse Rogerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1647 total appearances

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The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

But they also were like, wait a minute, we need to think about what clothes we're wearing while we're doing the experiment.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

Because if our clothes have microplastics in them, microplastics may shed from our clothes into our experiment.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

The room you're doing it in, the ventilation of the room you're doing it in, what materials make up the walls and the desks and like all of this,

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

How do you actually account for all of these variables properly?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

That's what they were identifying.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

And they found they were still wildly, after accounting for all of these variables, they were overestimating the amount of microplastics compared to their counterparts.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

And it was because of the gloves they were using.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

The gloves they were using were contaminating their samples.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

And this is, as you point out, it's a fantastic look into how science works and how scientists are very open with how wrong they can be.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

That doesn't mean that everything they've done is incorrect.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

It just means they're willing to admit mistakes and try and be better.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

You should be scared of anybody who's claiming something, claiming some sort of scientific result and has been found to be hiding things, right?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

And so when a researcher sweeps data under the rug, that is eventually found and those people get in trouble and those people pay professional consequences as a result.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

It didn't work?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

So this is, I also agree, evolutionary biology is amazing, especially convergent evolutionary biology where you take something like an eye and it evolves from a few different paths.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

Anyway, this group was looking at, you know, where do our eyes come from and how do you compare vertebrates and invertebrates to each other?

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

And they were looking at, there's, if you, they took,

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

sample of a large amount of animals covering most animals and they found that there was two main types of eyes one where you have an eye that's right on the top of the head it's sort of like right in the midline and then you have another where it's paired set of eyes like you and me right now where it's like sort of on the face and you have these two these two styles so one's a cyclops and one is a non cyclops is what you're saying

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

That's right, exactly.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: It's Not a Lie If You Believe It - April 10, 2026

But what they found is that our common ancestor probably evolved from the single one.