Jesse Rogerson

Not to that detail.

So we're stuck with following what's happening, seeing what's happening to these species, and the fallout from it could be a variety of things.

We just don't know.

And let's hope that as we do more of these studies, you know, humans take more steps to reduce climate change.

But I don't know.

I don't see any of that happening on like a political side.

Yeah, that one penguin's doing great, yes.

this is, I love studying intelligence in animals.

I mean, I don't study it.

I love reading about intelligence in animals because I think that humans tend to think that we're like the only smart thing on the planet and we're like, we're such geniuses.

We have this hubris.

We're such geniuses that we've been able to uncover the rules of nature and been able to uncover how the sun moves in the sky when really it's just because we're an animal, we're a species that's been living in this environment for hundreds of thousands of years and

Knowledge gets built into the biology.

Knowledge gets built into the patterns, into the social structures.

And this is a great example of it.

It's a group of spider monkeys that were being followed by a group of scientists.

And they were interested in how knowledge transfers from one to the other.

So they did this from 2012 to 2017.

They literally went into the forest and followed them, followed these spider monkeys.

They're known for forming little groups and then breaking off into smaller groups and then coming back to their big groups again.