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Jesse Rogerson

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1647 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

Yeah, that one penguin is doing great.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

Yes.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

this is, I love studying intelligence in animals.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

I mean, I don't study it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

I love reading about intelligence in animals because I think that humans tend to think that we're like the only smart thing on the planet and we're like, we're such geniuses.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

We have this hubris.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

We're such geniuses that we've been able to uncover the rules of nature and been able to uncover how the sun moves in the sky when really it's just because we're an animal, we're a species that's been living in this environment for hundreds of thousands of years and

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

Knowledge gets built into the biology.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

Knowledge gets built into the patterns, into the social structures.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

And this is a great example of it.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

It's a group of spider monkeys that were being followed by a group of scientists.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

And they were interested in how knowledge transfers from one to the other.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

So they did this from 2012 to 2017.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

They literally went into the forest and followed them, followed these spider monkeys.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

They're known for forming little groups and then breaking off into smaller groups and then coming back to their big groups again.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

So they have these social structures that are kind of like friend groups that cycle, break off into smaller ones and then come back together.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

And they were interested how the breaking apart and reforming of the social group affects the knowledge transfer.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

So they followed them around and they noticed that the spider monkeys were like going out and investigating portions of the forest, of the trees, of the canopy and recognizing where good food sources are.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

And then they would come back, share the knowledge with the group somehow through communicating with them.

The Last Show with David Cooper
FULL EPISODE: Oldest Map Of The Night Sky - January 27, 2026

And then the entire group would know where the good food was and where it wasn't, even if not all members of the group had visited those places in the forest.