Jesse Rubinoff

That's kind of what it sounds like that he doesn't want to disclose because that's a little bit more something you should be.

You should keep behind closed doors.

Yeah.

No, no.

I'll see.

There's going to be more stuff that I can create.

Good job.

Go 18.

Well, I just think about all the Leaf fans of around our age that grew up with Matt Sundin as an idol.

And we all know what happens to front office executives and what fans eventually inevitably think of them.

So there's going to be a whole generation of people who grew up idolizing Matt Sundin

who will inevitably hate him because that's the way things go.

And that's really sad to think about.

But congratulations to the two of them.

And Chayka, obviously, somewhat controversial in his time with the Arizona Coyotes.

Yeah, did get fined for scouting violation.

And the Coyotes lost a couple draft picks.

But we heard Keith Pelley talk about the next draft.

person who was going to run the team being very data oriented.

And of course that is the blueprint for John Chayka.