Jesse Solomon

Right.

Yeah, it's been six years.

Since Cancer Free. Oh. So yeah, I'm a long way out.

Knock on wood.

And I studied jazz in college. I went to the Frost School of Music at University of Miami. And I might as well put my degree to work, you know?

That's so nice.

Is there a but?

Yeah. Yeah, nothing bad had ever really happened to me until I was diagnosed with cancer. So it just kind of made sense in a weird way. I was like, oh, This is my thing.

I was always very grateful, but like... objectively like grew up in the suburbs. Dad was a Jewish lawyer, like loving family, grandparents, um, got into like the best music school in the country. And dad paid for me to go, like didn't have debt. Like, and I was super grateful about all these things. And then I got a job at the best talent agency in the world. And I was living in New York.

I have this platform now. I love making music. I love being in the studio with cool people and just, like, making shit that sounds good. So it's not, like, so serious.

I was like, life's great. Wow.

And then I got cancer.

But it's been like, honestly, the greatest thing that's ever happened to me. I wish I didn't have to go through it to get that perspective.

For sure.

But now I get to give back in ways that like not everybody else can. And I feel like I help people and. That means a lot to me.

Yeah. And, like, having kids will be so meaningful to me.

And, like, finding my person and all that stuff.

Yes. You have to freeze your sperm before chemo. Oh. Because you can become infertile.

I've got 14 vials on ice in Murray Hill. Yeah, you do. If anything ever happens to me and like you just want kids, like I think our offspring would probably be pretty attractive and smart and great smiles.

Yeah. Well, that's where I was living at the time and they were like –

Yeah. It's actually a really, like, scotch experience. You, like, go in there as, like, this older lady wearing a nurse outfit, like, walks you into this –

room in a basement and like there's a recliner chair with like doctor chair paper and she like rips it and she's like there's magazines here and porn on the TV and I turn it on and there's like a legit two guy one girl double team going on and I was like I'll just use my phone thanks I got my own and then you're just like which way do I point the cup do I go down which way do you point it the first time I went up and the second time I tried to go down and

And I had to come back a third time because I was like, I have cancer. I might die. Like, they tell you not to have sex or jerk off so you can, like, build up sperm before the bank. And then it was, like, the 4th of July weekend. Like, I was at the Soho house. There was a cute girl. Where's the story going?

Thank you.

Well, I had sex the night before my sperm banking appointment.

And they were like, little light today.

Yeah.

People are like, oh, it's not horrible.

My mom was so mad at me.

My mother.

She did because all bets were off once you get cancer. I would never talk about that stuff with my mom. But my mom used to get mad at me for smoking weed. She helped me procure weed when I couldn't eat during chemo. So I was in Miami and I... I had to do this sperm banking appointment before I could start chemo. And she's like, Jesse, don't be having sex. Get back to New York.

Do your sperm banking. I was like, Mom, I could die.

Yeah.

14. Yeah.

Wow. 15 chances. Yeah.

Yes, it's not horrible.

I told my mom, I was like, can you not watch this episode? And she calls me after. She's like, check it out. Jess, I just want you to know I watched and I thought you were great, sweetie. Don't worry.

Yeah.

No, you just like, it's, you very rarely jerk off in the house because there's like cameras and microphones everywhere. I used to like, Like before the gym or something. But I feel like I kind of lose a little motivation. So no, I don't jerk off like all the time.

Interesting.

Yeah, I've heard for men like it's – I hear all sorts of stuff. Yeah.

Yeah. Energy, creativity. I think it's good for us to have sex. Yeah. Jerking off. Pussy shit.

No, no, no.

No. Was that one of your like written down questions? Do you jerk off before parties?

Thank you. I really appreciate it.

Yeah. I mean, sometimes if like before you go out, so you're like not so laser focused on meeting girls when you're out and just like having a good time with your friends. Like I've done that. But as I've gotten older and more mature, I just it's not like my sole focus of going out is not to hook up with girls.

It used to be like in college and right out of college. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Give a dog a bone. I need my friends. You can ask them. They'll tell you all about it. Lots of stories.

I had a Jufra like till senior year of college.

Yeah. Cute. I was the same. I just not as attractive of girls like me back.

Honestly, it's changed more recently. Oh, really? Like this season. This season? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I think I just like wasn't as popular last season. I got more popular like towards the end of the season.

When I sang the song and whatever. But I mean, I've always, I haven't had a problem with the ladies.

No, I'm very transparent in my dating.

Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

Yeah.

Not stalking, but.

I mean, when you date enough people, like, sometimes you end up having bad blood. But I would say, like, the vast majority of any girl I've ever dated, like, we still have a friendship.

And have ended on good terms.

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Not that long. Like, honestly, the most serious thing I had was... And it was like 14 months. But I also had a girlfriend while I was going through chemo. And it was like nine months we were together. And that was awfully serious at the time. Yeah. But yeah, I'm not trying to be like, oh, I'm sick. Like chicks love me. But, you know, I'm like a normal guy. Like I could date girls if I want.

And then the show comes along and like, yeah, I get a lot of DMs. But like the people for the most part, no offense to anybody who's ever DMed me. It's not like who you ought to be dating. Like who's in your DMs? Oh, maybe it's different.

Yeah.

Yeah. I, I cook. Oh, I like to go on walks, quality time. Um, I'm a bit of a romantic, like flowers sometimes, not over the top. Yeah. I like to do fun things and I like to go out.

Like going out with my girlfriend and dancing and having fun is great.

I just I need somebody who's like very secure. And I just I haven't found what I'm looking for.

Oh, my God. Like, I can workshop it.

Yeah. Historically, I haven't been rich enough to do something like that.

Historically, but like I might be able to do that for the next one.

I think it's a good first fit. That was the first thing that came to mind.

I'm blessed that I have amazing friends and I have my high school friends and my college friends and my real life friends in Miami and New York. And we do a lot of fun stuff. And I feel like a girl would would be I'm not like she would be lucky to date me, but like lucky to become friends with my friends. Yeah. And honestly, like.

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The first girl I find that gets along with my best girlfriends, like, that's when I'll know.

Yeah.

Yeah. I've never found a girl that I was like, damn, I love her friends. I need to like be in that group. That would be sick.

It's hard for girls to have good girlfriends. Like, that's an amazing thing when girls have, like, a good group.

Because girls can be, like, tough with friendships.

Interesting.

I hadn't thought about it like that.

I think it's sweet when people are still friends with people from their childhood.

Not myself. Not yet? Yeah, I would recommend you add my song to your sex playlist, but, like.

Fuck it all.

Wow.

It's harsh.

I think considering what stage of life I'll be in for my bachelor party, it's going to be like a yacht in Europe type of vibe. Okay. Like a sick – definitely Europe.

Like get the fuck out of America. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let it rip.

It's just like it feels like more of an experience.

Yeah, and nobody – cares who I am in Europe too.

I don't want to be taking photos on my bachelor party.

That too. I mean not that I would do anything.

I would like to have a child and like obviously life happens and timelines are bullshit and my timeline has continued to push back but like if I'm still partying like this and dating around at 40 then Kill me.

Shoot me.

And no offense to like guys that are still doing this in their 40s.

I just. Yeah. You don't. I just want to be a younger dad. And yeah, I want to meet my person like, I don't know, 35, 36. Get married. It's just the timeline of my parents is kind of like what I look at as the ideal framework.

Oh, man.

Yeah, my dad's 70 and they got married when he was 35. So 35 years. 35 years?

Yeah, I hope that's right, mom.

Yeah, married 35, had my brother at 36, had me at 39.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

I mean that's like part of Jewish culture is like everything is all about the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure in other cultures too. But like – Yeah. It's very loving. I love it.

um oh wait there was something that i just watched where wes was saying your phone is juicy what what's so juicy in your phone do you have unsolicited nudes no uh i think i thought i said that his phone was he said his phone's juicy i thought you said your phone was juicy no he's like obviously my phone's juicy yeah he he was dating like a little bit over the summer and he just

Yeah, that was, I captioned the announcement of the song. I was like. Your sex playlist is about to get four minutes longer. Damn. Because I was like, you could do something to this.

After the Sierra situation was so scarred.

And I was like, dude, this is reality fucking TV, brother. Right, right, right. This is what we signed up for.

I can't believe we went this long about that.

Nice.

Yeah. Emeril.

Well, yeah, he wasn't dating a girl in the house. That's the difference.

It's just a toe.

It's just a toe. But nothing else happened. Everybody's like 37 minutes. What was going on in there? I didn't just like show up, strip down and like start hooking up with everyone. And like it took 37 minutes. No, I was sitting there talking, hanging out.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I was like, this kid's been bringing back a different girl every night. I've never seen a single one of them.

Let's like see them with my own eyes. Yeah. Their threesome had finished.

Yeah, it was over. This makes sense. It wasn't like the heat of the threesome. They were just like in bed after.

And people are like, what makes you think I could fuck for four minutes?

Yeah.

They were chilling, hanging out, talking about like, what are you into sexually? And I was just like drunk. It was a long day of drinking.

Yeah, and I feel like if I was doing stupid shit in there, they would have shown it.

Like, instead they frame it as, like, 37 minutes later.

Yeah, his room is, like, you walk in the front door and it's to the left. And, like, then they leave and you just don't have to pass my bedroom. So I never saw anyone.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, they make them sign the release like right when they enter the house. Like my first season when I brought a girl back, I was like, so listen, there's going to be this little guy. He's going to come out of the basement in probably 10 seconds and he's going to ask you to like sign a form. And she was French. So she like didn't know the deal. And I was like, she's like, this is a camera.

And I was like, I don't want you to be mistaken about this. The cameras are always on.

And there's microphones everywhere. Yeah. I don't want you to think this is something different than that. She's like, okay.

What's on mine? It's a lot of like, A little bit of electronic music just to like keep the vibes high.

I mean, yeah. No, I think the Emeralds girls, they're not showing them because they probably were – Not trying to like be on national TV having threesomes.

It wasn't a toe job. It was like – Emeril's like, what are you into? And I see my feet next to their faces. And I was like, I don't know, toe sucking. And he goes, suck his toe. And I was like, yeah.

It was like a dare.

And my feet had been outside partying all day, then in shoes at the club all night. Like it was a stanky foot. Tough girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then as a joke, I go, and I'm hard.

Yeah.

Yeah, like, I was drunk, but I knew that we were on the show with cameras everywhere. Like, I wasn't, I didn't secretly, like, get involved. Yeah.

The toe thing? Yeah. No. You don't care. I like it.

Yeah. I thought it was a funny joke. I mean, I felt bad.

Okay. Yeah. Lexi's like told me she's a jealous type and, you know. Yeah. It wasn't like the right thing to do to go in there. It was a mistake. I should have just never gone. But like... It's funny.

Okay. I listen to a lot of neo soul. Like my favorite artist is this guy Tom Misch.

Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't like, like if I wanted to try and hook up with Sierra, like I would have tried. It wasn't, I was just like being drunk and flirty.

Face by case.

That's why you look so good.

She's glowing.

Yeah, she's really cool.

She's very spicy. Yeah, yeah. Gotta be careful. She gets really upset with me this season, so.

Luckily, she doesn't watch the show, so, like, we can just, we're good right now. So.

Yeah.

I have a friend from music school named John Splitoff who makes like incredibly soulful music. That's a hell of a name. But like if I had like a –

Yeah.

Yeah, we got through it. But I just, like, say stupid shit sometimes.

And it's you. I wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feelings. Like, I was trying to keep it light. And, like, I just kind of misspoke, I think. And you'll see it.

I like your hair like this.

Yeah. Yeah, I like highlights. It's like giving brown and blonde and a little red.

Make it.

You could always cut it. It's your fucking podcast. I'm the one who should be careful.

Right here we got lights.

I don't suck toes.

None that I want to talk about publicly.

Oh, like I'm into good sex.

Yeah, I would say being in the public eye is fun.

I like it. I'm just such a goof that yesterday I just posted an Instagram page. We took a picture together and she reached back and held my hand for a millisecond. And I posted the photo of the group and then I zoomed in on me and Paige. And I was like, guys, just wanted to let you know that Paige and I are ready to be public with our relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, like, people went wild.

sex playlist it would be like marvin gaye classic um the temptations like that's what i grew up on yes it was like stevie wonder same and all that yeah so you can hear that influence in your music it's wild yeah it's really cute thanks um okay where's another icebreaker if you were sandwiched

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was, like, a super low-quality image.

Yeah. And it was for fun. That's fun, though.

I'm, like, I Instagram Sierra. And I'm, like, holy smokes. Like, I post all these pictures of her. Like, I just think it's fun. You can't take it too seriously.

Yeah. The girls need to be confident. And they deserve compliments. And there's only so many people in their lives that can give them compliments in a non-creepy way. And maybe...

everybody's like jesse gives me the ick whatever but like the girls like the compliments yeah and like it's i wouldn't say it if it wasn't true yeah what else do the girls need the girls do not meet need me to tell them what they need amen yeah it was a trick question they know what they need

No, I wasn't. I didn't mean to get Botox. Did you? No, I didn't get like actual Botox. Oh, you did the Aqua Gold. Yeah, Aqua Gold is good. I was like trying to get content for JECT. And I was like, so what's in this? And she's like. Microdoses of Botox. I was like, wait. So I can't say that I've never gotten Botox. Technically, you can't say that.

Yeah. So I... You know, for a long time I put pressure on myself to do something on social because I'm not a content creator. I was a normal New York boy living his life and I now have followers because I'm on a show. Same. So it was kind of like a difficult adjustment for me to figure out how to like –

be a online personality and now i'm kind of letting it come to me and i just feel like i don't have to do anything for my instagram i just have to record what i'm already doing yeah do the same shit you did before the show

I would never have posted a shirtless workout video before. Never. Are you lying? I swear. No, it was very hard for me to like work that muscle of like hitting posts and just not giving a shit.

But now I just like have done it so much that it's just hard to care what people think, you know? Yeah. So I have 94% female followers. Like, they're not following me because they, like, don't want to watch me work out shirtless. So, like, sometimes I was already working out shirtless. Might as well show everyone.

And that's what I enjoy doing. Like, I work out every day. I only post myself working out maybe once a week. So, yeah.

I'm Euro.

That's such a good question.

Okay.

Foul ball. Okay.

Fair game so long as there's no intent to hook up or do anything inappropriate.

I mean, what's coming to mind is like my go-to sandwich order at a deli.

Yeah.

That's a good question. I have a lot of friends that are girls.

Do I want to secretly have sex with them? I mean, it's not a secret. Like, I tell them, but we just respect our friendship too much to go there.

If it's, like, somebody that you used to hook up with, that's foul play. If it's, like, an old friend from high school and whatever, it's fair game.

Yes, you probably should just... browse and keep scrolling.

I don't know. It's like a natural reaction. Like, I get in trouble on tonight's episode for following girls while I was talking to Lexi. And it's just like second nature. You see a cute girl, like Instagram's the best dating app. I just... But it's – I don't know. I shouldn't have been doing that either realistically.

Um... It's turkey with bacon. Bad Drew, but like whatever.

Yeah. But all my successes too.

I mean I did that with Lexi and it meant she wanted me to. So – It was fair game. But, yeah, I typically wouldn't do that.

Yeah.

Fast.

I didn't do that.

Yeah, that's a foul ball.

Emeril's your future husband?

Please. Yeah, that's not chill. You probably just should never have gone in there.

Munster cheese, pickles, hot sauce, brown mustard. Okay. Toasted on like a... I don't know, whatever bread's fresh that day. So like you've got your protein, but you've got like a little bit of fun.

Yeah, but I was just being silly.

And everybody's like, would you have been upset if Lexi did that? And I'm like, I just wouldn't want to know if she wasn't hooking up with the guy. And it was just like. She's like, oopsies. She's just drunk at night, like rolled in there.

I do.

So this whole reality TV thing.

Okay.

Okay. Like what does that mean? Laugh? Yeah.

Okay.

You look like a hot Q-tip.

Hot Q-tip, I thought was funny.

Well, you're a hot one. Thank you. I mean, I already gave you so many compliments, but I like everything about you. Your skin looks smooth. Your shoes match everything. Your teeth are white. Your hair is just like voluminous and great colored. Your eyes are glowing. I love your freckles. I could keep going.

I like that you're showing like a little nip, but there's also a bra.

Yeah.

I like when you talk in that turned on voice.

What's your number?

I'm always laughing. Me too.

Yeah.

Yeah. And be serious. I can't. I do have a serious side, but it's just rare.

So that's like who I am as a person.

Mm-hmm. It's easy to just skate through life and not have to do anything serious.

I just skate.

I am a wellness girly, but like I also like to party and have fun with a little bacon.

Thank you so much for having me. This was really fun. You're hot.

Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that is similar to a club.

Yeah, double meat.

You're wild.

Yeah, but we're alive.

So I'm like two episodes behind, but I know that the brothers hook up.

I do think I scrolled Instagram and saw who died by accident.

You watched the whole thing? I did.

Um, I would say the second season I was more open to dating.

The first season I was just like, I don't really know anyone. Let me just create real relationships and like have fun and just become friends with everyone.

And I was like scared to shit where I ate.

And then this summer I was shitting and I was eating. Yeah.

Yeah, like I was just – I was – you know, I was open to finding someone great. And my life is so amazing right now and I feel so fortunate. But it's hard to find somebody that you feel like is going to – Add to that and make your life even better and like have a partner.

And I got really excited about Lexi because I was like, wow, she really would be able to like fit into my life and I would fit into hers.

You know, we have similar friends and we're at this house all summer.

I mean.

Yeah, I mean, I did. But, like, you can't just, like, be a bitch about it. Like, you got to come in hot. I'm going to play my game. I don't think I'm perfect by any means. Yeah.

And I respect that.

Whether you hook up right away or whether you wait, it's just kind of like prolonging if the relationship's going to work out. Like they're either your person or you're not. I do respect when girls want to put a timeline on it because I think if they hook up with a guy and then it doesn't work out, it hurts way worse for them.

So I respect timelines. But she's like, you're going to know if you want to be my girlfriend within 30 days. And I was like, that's my boyfriend. I was like, a little weird, but I respect it. It's probably true.

No, I felt like I was running out of time.

And so I brought it up to her and she was like, I wasn't like, it wasn't a hard 30 days. I was like, it felt like a pretty hard 30 day rule.

Yeah.

I also like saw West and Sierra the summer before and like you're there three days in a row. It's nice to have someone.

I would be curious to see what it's like to film a show where you have like set times to go film. Yeah.

Because it would feel more like produced and – Yes. On my show, it's just like you can't not be yourself.

You were talking about relationships and being with somebody on the show.

Yeah.

Yeah, I totally underestimated how hard it would be to be in a relationship on camera. It's like you're under a microscope. You're playing a game of telephone all the time. And I was like, if we could just get out of this house.

Yeah, everybody's involving themselves. Yeah, I was just going to say like if – Imagine for people who like, because we're just talking like we both know what it's like to be on reality TV, but like most people don't. To me, it's like you're drunk and you put up an Instagram story and you can't delete it.

It keeps replaying. And like. Yeah. Just imagine listening to yourself, like, you know, the sound of your own voice.

And you're like, I can't stand this. Yes. Watching yourself back on a show is like that. Plus. There's a visual of you from, like, a knot and angle that you chose. So you really have to just be, like, accepting of, like, whatever I do and whatever I sound like, whatever I say. Like, it just is what it is.

Yeah.

I'm like... Yeah, that's crazy.

Maybe. I just like music that makes me feel something.

It's a creepy feeling.

I have a terrible memory. So I like to watch once just to like see, cause I made a hilarious joke the other day that I was like, I totally forgot I said that.

Yeah.

Yeah. I was like, I'm crack myself. Me, too. I think I'm so cute.

And so I'm just trying to... Create something new, but also take things from the past and emulate my favorite artists. And I think that's what music's all about. It's like carving your own path, but also sharing what works for other people.

Yeah. The West advice was if you don't look at your phone, nothing changes because nobody's ever mean to you in person.

That was his thing. But he – Wise West. He does look at the comments and stuff. Like he used to work in social media and still kind of does. So he's like very ear to the ground, Twitter, all that. But I've been able to like – As time has gone on, more and more so completely removed my emotions and self-worth and all that from the haters.

It's near impossible. It's impossible. Because the human brain is not meant to see this stuff on the internet.

Like cavemen didn't have the internet.

Like they had like the people around them and like people either talk shit to your face or you just.

Ignorance is bliss.

But now I like see thousands of them a day and like, you know, you get more and more used to it. And but it's never like fully. You can't fully accept it.

I have a great, yeah.

Yeah, like I'm mentally stable. And I think it's because like I had cancer and stuff that like I'm very goofy and silly and like don't care about pretty much anything. And people actually get mad at me on the season because like I'm so flippant and just.

They're like, you got to take shit seriously. And I'm like, this just isn't serious to me. Like we're in a fucking house with our friends in the Hamptons. It's all good. We're alive.