Jesse Welles

Your comedy's like that.

Right.

And it feels great.

You don't think it feels great to kick ass at something?

Well, I mean, it certainly does to be successful.

The pursuit of excellence is like the most joy-rendering thing that there is.

Well, you don't have to have, like I don't, this is the thing, it's like playing guitar or something, I don't have an enemy.

But you're an artist.

You're not a corporation, right?

I don't have a record deal, if that's what you're saying.

What is it going to do?

that'd be kind of cool you'll probably have to do that someday eventually I'll be in a corporation maybe after this podcast you'll have to do that call it bottomless wells that's the most fun and it does seem like it is what anytime you're in a hard place or anything like that mentally or

Yeah, like, the best way out is, like, find something to try to get good at or try some, you know, and then try your best at it.

Yeah.

And it just seems innate.

That's a strange art.

Weird art.

That's a dark art.

That is.

That is the dark art.