Jesse Welles

Like it's not even... Yeah.

It doesn't matter where you're getting it either.

It's...

that and like the i feel like the most like colorful people that they would have had on their things have gone indie now you know like like tucker carlson has his his podcast and like um let's see candace owens was with like daily wire and now she's like got she's got her own yeah big thing and there's and then there's smaller there's smaller ones you got like

Breaking breaking points is one.

Well, the talent.

I mean, we have to be talented to do that, to sit there and look at a camera and just talk for like hours about you got to be really talented.

Right.

You're gone.

Yeah.

So then there's not much career for you after that.

Those folks, all these folks who do, I think even Bill, Bill O'Reilly, after he got like kicked out, you know, from, from broadcast, he has, he's got his podcasts and stuff.

If they, they really believe their, their stuff, man.

Yeah.

Whether they're right or wrong.

Yeah, well, it's not about that.

I feel like the public has to understand that at the end of the day, these guys are...

Whether they believe it or not, this is entertainment.

These guys are entertainers.

They're telling you stuff.