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Jesse Zhang

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Hallucinations are too high there.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

As those models get better, I think more enterprise use cases will be unlocked.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

But I do think the general public will just see a really cool demo and be like, okay, oh, wow, like voice is solved now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And as a result, you know, enterprises should be adopting it left and right.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And C-suites will see that too.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

But then when they actually get into it, it's just harder to go live.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

That's, I would say, the piece where it's not quite fully there yet.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And so it's a little bit slower than people think.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I think the thing that's on the flip side of that, where it's underestimated, is just things are growing exponentially, improving exponentially.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And no one is good at conceptualizing what exponential means in things like this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And so that could be from a performance cost perspective.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Right now, I would argue that if you're building an application, your margin shouldn't really matter that much.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

People will often critique the coding agents like they're hemorrhaging money.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Yeah, but again, things are improving exponentially and like the cost will go down exponentially as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

So your margin doesn't really matter.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

What really matters is you need to get market share and you need to get my share of users.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Perfectly fine not to have good margins right now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And it's just everything just improves way faster than people think.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

It's slightly different at the enterprise.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I mean, the same principle applies, but generally don't want to be hemorrhaging cash with like an enterprise deal because those are just much longer term.