Jessica Cheung
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After all, over 140 countries had already recognized Palestine.
So isn't this week largely a symbolic gesture?
He kept holding up this analogy, apartheid in South Africa.
He said much of the world also condemned apartheid for decades, but it was Western countries putting pressure on South Africa that helped end apartheid.
So Mansour says he sees this moment as a turning point for statehood.
But this moment has also been controversial.
What do you say to those who see this recognition as rewarding Hamas for its terrorism?
I asked Mansour what he thought about the fact that some people view all this formal recognition as a reward to Hamas for the atrocities on October 7th.
Mansour told me he thinks that's the wrong way to look at it.
One source said Palestinian statehood is not a prize for attacking Israel.
He told me, it's about the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people to have a state of their own.
And that was made clear as the following days unfolded.
I first spoke to Isla back in February. This was a month into the Trump administration, which had promised quick and mass deportations. I was calling immigration lawyers around the country, trying to get a sense of who exactly was getting targeted for deportation and how ICE was fining them. And that's when a lawyer called me back, saying you got to talk to Isla.
I first spoke to Isla back in February. This was a month into the Trump administration, which had promised quick and mass deportations. I was calling immigration lawyers around the country, trying to get a sense of who exactly was getting targeted for deportation and how ICE was fining them. And that's when a lawyer called me back, saying you got to talk to Isla.
Right now, Isla's a sophomore at Wentworth Institute of Technology in Massachusetts, where she's studying architecture and interior design. She was raised in a town called Saugus, just outside Boston, where days before we had talked, her dad was detained by ICE officers. Tell me a little bit about your dad. What is his name? How old is he? And what does he do?
Right now, Isla's a sophomore at Wentworth Institute of Technology in Massachusetts, where she's studying architecture and interior design. She was raised in a town called Saugus, just outside Boston, where days before we had talked, her dad was detained by ICE officers. Tell me a little bit about your dad. What is his name? How old is he? And what does he do?
Ayla told me in 2001 her dad had settled here in Massachusetts as an undocumented immigrant. He'd come here from Brazil. This was three years before Ayla was born. Tell me about why he left Brazil.
Ayla told me in 2001 her dad had settled here in Massachusetts as an undocumented immigrant. He'd come here from Brazil. This was three years before Ayla was born. Tell me about why he left Brazil.
When he first got here, he lived with his aunt who was already here. But eventually he met Isla's mom, who was also from Brazil.
When he first got here, he lived with his aunt who was already here. But eventually he met Isla's mom, who was also from Brazil.