Jessica Hancock
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, you do. Like coming down the stairs is not an easy mission.
Yeah, you do. Like coming down the stairs is not an easy mission.
Oh, you're stuck then. You can't move. Exactly. That is the law.
Oh, you're stuck then. You can't move. Exactly. That is the law.
It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. I am back after a week off, but I have not returned alone, have I, PJ?
It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. I am back after a week off, but I have not returned alone, have I, PJ?
yeah and in canva that's so accessible like you don't have to be okay you don't have to be a graphic designer like because obviously there's loads of softwares you have but if you're just maybe if you're a writer and not in that you might not have that software at all whereas can be you get for like it's like 10 or a month or there's a free version so yeah yeah i i'm a big fan of the affinity suite because they just keep on doing sales so if you wait for a little sale they can get quite cheap oh and it's on affinity as well yeah and then you own it
yeah and in canva that's so accessible like you don't have to be okay you don't have to be a graphic designer like because obviously there's loads of softwares you have but if you're just maybe if you're a writer and not in that you might not have that software at all whereas can be you get for like it's like 10 or a month or there's a free version so yeah yeah i i'm a big fan of the affinity suite because they just keep on doing sales so if you wait for a little sale they can get quite cheap oh and it's on affinity as well yeah and then you own it
I'm a big fan of our layout artists as well. Yes, they do great work.
I'm a big fan of our layout artists as well. Yes, they do great work.
It's exactly what you think the film is going to be there. You get everything you want from a Deadpool film is what I'll say.
It's exactly what you think the film is going to be there. You get everything you want from a Deadpool film is what I'll say.
yeah yeah there was yeah there was a lot more I felt yeah it was kind of but it wasn't unexpected for Deadpool because well I enjoyed it immensely yes and I haven't played the Marvel multiverse role-playing game yet oh
yeah yeah there was yeah there was a lot more I felt yeah it was kind of but it wasn't unexpected for Deadpool because well I enjoyed it immensely yes and I haven't played the Marvel multiverse role-playing game yet oh
Your dream can come true. That's such an achievable dream.
Your dream can come true. That's such an achievable dream.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
In what sense?
In what sense?
Okay, but there is a full review people can read online.
Okay, but there is a full review people can read online.
That we won't read out loud on the podcast because that won't be interesting.
That we won't read out loud on the podcast because that won't be interesting.
What did you do?
What did you do?
Oh, nice.
Oh, nice.
Okay.
Okay.
to get to Wales you go via the Shadow Dark and we met there so I thought I'd draw her back out into our realm temporarily for some respite yeah just a little stab over
to get to Wales you go via the Shadow Dark and we met there so I thought I'd draw her back out into our realm temporarily for some respite yeah just a little stab over
Well, before we get into that, because that's what I was going to talk about, I've seen a Kickstarter that looks quite cool. It's ending next week, and it's at like 93% funded.
Well, before we get into that, because that's what I was going to talk about, I've seen a Kickstarter that looks quite cool. It's ending next week, and it's at like 93% funded.
this is called sentience the role-playing game it's about artificial consciousness and it seems to do and i know there's other games that look at this but it seems to do it in an interesting way because it's looking a lot about social justice movements and and things like like like that um and it reminds me very much of the i don't know if you've seen the tv show being human
this is called sentience the role-playing game it's about artificial consciousness and it seems to do and i know there's other games that look at this but it seems to do it in an interesting way because it's looking a lot about social justice movements and and things like like like that um and it reminds me very much of the i don't know if you've seen the tv show being human
it reminded me of it had that sort of vibe to it so it doesn't look like it's like high drama like I'm a big strong robot I'm gonna like laser everything it's not that vibe it seems more like oh like I'm scared and I'm dealing with my emotions and I'm you know, in a society that doesn't acknowledge my existence and I'm under threat and like a lot of it's finding, yeah.
it reminded me of it had that sort of vibe to it so it doesn't look like it's like high drama like I'm a big strong robot I'm gonna like laser everything it's not that vibe it seems more like oh like I'm scared and I'm dealing with my emotions and I'm you know, in a society that doesn't acknowledge my existence and I'm under threat and like a lot of it's finding, yeah.
Yes. And it uses a D6 dice pool system and I do like a dice pool system. So, and it's a unique system. Yeah. So the mechanics are about emotion and stress and there's hacking and there is combat in it as well, which like obviously is there, but it seemed to be more about like,
Yes. And it uses a D6 dice pool system and I do like a dice pool system. So, and it's a unique system. Yeah. So the mechanics are about emotion and stress and there's hacking and there is combat in it as well, which like obviously is there, but it seemed to be more about like,
yeah like finding yourself identity and being part of this resistance and yeah and just really interesting yeah so i've backed that it's it's not due to come out to like the estimated delivery of physical books is july 2025 which i was actually pleased to see because a lot of creators sometimes do a really short timeline and i think oh are you going to be able to do that because actually
yeah like finding yourself identity and being part of this resistance and yeah and just really interesting yeah so i've backed that it's it's not due to come out to like the estimated delivery of physical books is july 2025 which i was actually pleased to see because a lot of creators sometimes do a really short timeline and i think oh are you going to be able to do that because actually
But yeah, it looks really good, and it, yeah, it knows what it's doing, and yeah, it just seemed really interesting to me and appealed to me.
But yeah, it looks really good, and it, yeah, it knows what it's doing, and yeah, it just seemed really interesting to me and appealed to me.
Mm-hmm, yes.
Mm-hmm, yes.
Yeah. So I've backed this for a book because I thought that looks kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like it focused on the elements of this sort of storytelling that I would be interested in exploring. So, yeah. So that's my other little shout out for a new little RPG. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. Yeah.
Yeah. So I've backed this for a book because I thought that looks kind of interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like it focused on the elements of this sort of storytelling that I would be interested in exploring. So, yeah. So that's my other little shout out for a new little RPG. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice. Yeah.
Well, sure. We'd be remiss if we didn't.
Well, sure. We'd be remiss if we didn't.
We had a sneak peek a couple of weeks ago from the Gen Con.
We had a sneak peek a couple of weeks ago from the Gen Con.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, there's a video online from Gen Con. There's a video that exists.
Well, there's a video online from Gen Con. There's a video that exists.
Well, it's on ENworld. The link is on there, so I can send you the article link. Cool. Yeah. But they do have a... You can sign up for the closed beta, so you can try out Project Sigil. I signed up for that.
Well, it's on ENworld. The link is on there, so I can send you the article link. Cool. Yeah. But they do have a... You can sign up for the closed beta, so you can try out Project Sigil. I signed up for that.
Yeah, I signed up for it, so I don't know when that's going on.
Yeah, I signed up for it, so I don't know when that's going on.
Well, I thought then I can report back here. And I'm also interested to see how it is with my Baldur's Gate 3 addiction. I'm like, is this going to feel similar?
Well, I thought then I can report back here. And I'm also interested to see how it is with my Baldur's Gate 3 addiction. I'm like, is this going to feel similar?
Speaking of gaming, I didn't mention it, but I'm having a Baldur's Gate 3 LAN party tomorrow with some friends because that's how cool I am. I'm so excited.
Speaking of gaming, I didn't mention it, but I'm having a Baldur's Gate 3 LAN party tomorrow with some friends because that's how cool I am. I'm so excited.
I know, right?
I know, right?
Okay, all right, so that's the D&D Direct news. Is that the neutral news? That's the neutral news, yes.
Okay, all right, so that's the D&D Direct news. Is that the neutral news? That's the neutral news, yes.
Dragons are on the flag, so yeah.
Dragons are on the flag, so yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
A dragon, yeah.
A dragon, yeah.
see I naively assumed that would come under the web of classes
see I naively assumed that would come under the web of classes
Well, as far as we know.
Well, as far as we know.
Yes, it is. Yeah, infinitely more. Which is why it's the best country flag.
Yes, it is. Yeah, infinitely more. Which is why it's the best country flag.
So the best thing to do is to print off your character sheet now, and if you want to keep it as it is, just go to pen and paper, I guess.
So the best thing to do is to print off your character sheet now, and if you want to keep it as it is, just go to pen and paper, I guess.
Yeah, what happened in the last week? Not a lot. Okay, good.
Yeah, what happened in the last week? Not a lot. Okay, good.
have and also you could do like of course cool things with it so it'd be cool to see what this yeah you know this is interesting because at first i didn't realize why people were upset and i think that's because i don't play a lot of spell casting characters so i looked at this and i was like what's the problem you can use the old one but now you've explained this i'm like ah because i just naively assumed that spells would come under the umbrella of the class and it wouldn't be changed but now you've mentioned it i'm like oh yeah that's that's super annoying there are things which are basically class features that we don't call class features like yeah
have and also you could do like of course cool things with it so it'd be cool to see what this yeah you know this is interesting because at first i didn't realize why people were upset and i think that's because i don't play a lot of spell casting characters so i looked at this and i was like what's the problem you can use the old one but now you've explained this i'm like ah because i just naively assumed that spells would come under the umbrella of the class and it wouldn't be changed but now you've mentioned it i'm like oh yeah that's that's super annoying there are things which are basically class features that we don't call class features like yeah
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Well, yeah.
I kind of get why from like a digital platform reason.
I kind of get why from like a digital platform reason.
Yeah, they didn't seem like hugely different. Like, I mean, there were changes, but it didn't feel... Yeah.
Yeah, they didn't seem like hugely different. Like, I mean, there were changes, but it didn't feel... Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
No, they have said 2014 rules will be accessible marked with legacy badges for monsters, so...
No, they have said 2014 rules will be accessible marked with legacy badges for monsters, so...
I quite like the new layout, so I'm okay with it.
I quite like the new layout, so I'm okay with it.
I'll take function over prettiness for RPGs, though.
I'll take function over prettiness for RPGs, though.
Wow. That's a lot.
Wow. That's a lot.
Yeah. So what has the internet's reaction been to this? Because I haven't seen much of it.
Yeah. So what has the internet's reaction been to this? Because I haven't seen much of it.
The internet's reaction has been... Well, the internet is very good as a collective at having a nuanced and reasonable approach to things and is good at long-form discussion.
The internet's reaction has been... Well, the internet is very good as a collective at having a nuanced and reasonable approach to things and is good at long-form discussion.
The social media platform formerly known as Twitter.
The social media platform formerly known as Twitter.
So have people been really mad about it? Has there been a lot of people...
So have people been really mad about it? Has there been a lot of people...
Yes, okay, okay.
Yes, okay, okay.
Because this is my thing, because I don't use D&D Beyond, and no one in my group's
Because this is my thing, because I don't use D&D Beyond, and no one in my group's
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's Pac-Man in there. Is that going to be like an existential horror?
There's Pac-Man in there. Is that going to be like an existential horror?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, yeah. It's like an episode of Black Mirror.
Like, yeah. It's like an episode of Black Mirror.
I don't. Okay, okay.
I don't. Okay, okay.
Yeah, I'm going to watch this.
Yeah, I'm going to watch this.
I don't think it's out yet, but it's coming.
I don't think it's out yet, but it's coming.
Well, there's some of my Christmas holidays sorted. That's what I'm going to do.
Well, there's some of my Christmas holidays sorted. That's what I'm going to do.
Well, we'll find out in December, won't we? Very classic of them to do that.
Well, we'll find out in December, won't we? Very classic of them to do that.
Oh, right.
Oh, right.
That's what I heard.
That's what I heard.
I think Morris' podcast could be the one to make it happen.
I think Morris' podcast could be the one to make it happen.
As long as it's not bulky and gets in the way of the game. And I think that was the goal with this. There's that management, but it's not like, oh, now we have to sit and do some admin before we can have fun. I think some games do that. The resource management is part of it, but it just feels like it's annoying and it's not fun.
As long as it's not bulky and gets in the way of the game. And I think that was the goal with this. There's that management, but it's not like, oh, now we have to sit and do some admin before we can have fun. I think some games do that. The resource management is part of it, but it just feels like it's annoying and it's not fun.
this is like simple enough where it matters and you have to manage it, but it's not like, I feel like I have to go and do some paperwork for my game, you know?
this is like simple enough where it matters and you have to manage it, but it's not like, I feel like I have to go and do some paperwork for my game, you know?
I know, that's why I'm confident about it. PJ and I are like, yeah, it's fine. My name's not on this.
I know, that's why I'm confident about it. PJ and I are like, yeah, it's fine. My name's not on this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Never met him before in my life.
Never met him before in my life.
Did I? That's right. I don't think it's quite going to get to 20.
Did I? That's right. I don't think it's quite going to get to 20.
maybe you're smarter than me there's definitely been mistakes where we've kicked ourselves and said we could have predicted this mistake yes and it's totally on us yeah there's been other stuff as well like I've been doing game fulfillment like for about six years five six years now and so when 2020 when 2020 happened suddenly shipping costs were like two three times what they were and there was no way that we could have had that and that was just we have to throw money at the situation because
maybe you're smarter than me there's definitely been mistakes where we've kicked ourselves and said we could have predicted this mistake yes and it's totally on us yeah there's been other stuff as well like I've been doing game fulfillment like for about six years five six years now and so when 2020 when 2020 happened suddenly shipping costs were like two three times what they were and there was no way that we could have had that and that was just we have to throw money at the situation because
the games are, you know, in place A and they need to get to place B. And they've been promised to people. And that's how much it costs to get them there now. Like we'd budgeted, like, I think it was something like four grand for a container and ended up being 12, which is just, it was like, it was like that in 2020. It was, it was absolutely wild. It was things like that were happening.
the games are, you know, in place A and they need to get to place B. And they've been promised to people. And that's how much it costs to get them there now. Like we'd budgeted, like, I think it was something like four grand for a container and ended up being 12, which is just, it was like, it was like that in 2020. It was, it was absolutely wild. It was things like that were happening.
No, that's fair enough. But I think always a thing with other creators is buffering with time is a thing because when mistakes happen, it always takes you a bit more time. So I always say do your timeline really generously and the end,
No, that's fair enough. But I think always a thing with other creators is buffering with time is a thing because when mistakes happen, it always takes you a bit more time. So I always say do your timeline really generously and the end,
Yeah, yeah. And worst case scenario, if everything goes to plan, you fulfilled your backers two months early. Oh, no. Right. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And worst case scenario, if everything goes to plan, you fulfilled your backers two months early. Oh, no. Right. Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But that's why I let them know. And for that person that complained, I said, that's fine. We'll hold it and we'll fulfill it for you in two months. That's fine. And they said, I can have it this month, but that's not the point.
But that's why I let them know. And for that person that complained, I said, that's fine. We'll hold it and we'll fulfill it for you in two months. That's fine. And they said, I can have it this month, but that's not the point.
I don't know what the point is yeah but that's yeah if you're dealing with like thousands of backers there's always one person which is a bit odd I think and I'm sure with customer services messages on that scale you've had one or two people you're like I don't know what you want to be happy here but you know right it was I just tell me what you want and I will try to do it but I can't tell what it is you want you know sorry PJ yeah I'm like I mean this is
I don't know what the point is yeah but that's yeah if you're dealing with like thousands of backers there's always one person which is a bit odd I think and I'm sure with customer services messages on that scale you've had one or two people you're like I don't know what you want to be happy here but you know right it was I just tell me what you want and I will try to do it but I can't tell what it is you want you know sorry PJ yeah I'm like I mean this is
Or a heroic sacrifice, or, you know. That's right, exactly.
Or a heroic sacrifice, or, you know. That's right, exactly.
My goodness.
My goodness.
I mean, a lot of people have that as a hobby. They go splunking and stuff. So, you know, some people would disagree with you. In Wales, right?
I mean, a lot of people have that as a hobby. They go splunking and stuff. So, you know, some people would disagree with you. In Wales, right?
It's exciting when someone in the industry does really well. It is. I think it makes you feel as a TTRPG creative, someone else is doing really well. You're like, oh, well, there's the potential. There's that market. And maybe this will invite new people into the hobby.
It's exciting when someone in the industry does really well. It is. I think it makes you feel as a TTRPG creative, someone else is doing really well. You're like, oh, well, there's the potential. There's that market. And maybe this will invite new people into the hobby.
one thing that jumped out to me was the magic system so I really like how you made magic scary and volatile and with cost in the world it feels like it's not just a oh I do this magic spell and it's done but it feels like oh it can go wrong even if you really know what you're doing which was really nice and
one thing that jumped out to me was the magic system so I really like how you made magic scary and volatile and with cost in the world it feels like it's not just a oh I do this magic spell and it's done but it feels like oh it can go wrong even if you really know what you're doing which was really nice and
I'm not sure how so maybe you can maybe this was intentional and you can explain why I feel this way but when I was reading through I don't play a lot of magic users in things like 5e because I'm just like oh that feels like admin and work and I have to like do homework but this felt a lot more approachable and it felt a lot more accessible and like something I could try out so I don't know what your approach was with kind of almost trying to strip back magic or yeah.
I'm not sure how so maybe you can maybe this was intentional and you can explain why I feel this way but when I was reading through I don't play a lot of magic users in things like 5e because I'm just like oh that feels like admin and work and I have to like do homework but this felt a lot more approachable and it felt a lot more accessible and like something I could try out so I don't know what your approach was with kind of almost trying to strip back magic or yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know, that's why I'm also really happy because it's something that's not D&D.
I know, that's why I'm also really happy because it's something that's not D&D.
There is a Gloomhaven RPG, though, PJ.
There is a Gloomhaven RPG, though, PJ.
But every big Kickstarter has stuff attached to the RPG that's not RPG stuff. Like, they have minis and coins and tote bags and stuff, which that's... Half the match. Yeah.
But every big Kickstarter has stuff attached to the RPG that's not RPG stuff. Like, they have minis and coins and tote bags and stuff, which that's... Half the match. Yeah.
And then becoming a logistics company, organizing plushies, moving around the globe is a whole other job, yeah.
And then becoming a logistics company, organizing plushies, moving around the globe is a whole other job, yeah.
Yep. Not what I wanted to do that time.
Yep. Not what I wanted to do that time.
Or at least an expression of emotion, yeah. Right, right. Yep.
Or at least an expression of emotion, yeah. Right, right. Yep.
Check it out on our next Kickstarter.
Check it out on our next Kickstarter.
So I understand Paizo has been doing some things. Should we segue and talk about that a little bit?
So I understand Paizo has been doing some things. Should we segue and talk about that a little bit?
So we, it was, was it two weeks ago we talked about Paizo updating? About two weeks ago, yeah. I was definitely here. So it wasn't last week. Anyway, so they updated their community use policies. And my understanding, in brief, is that people were not happy with that. and just discuss their displeasure in a reasonable way online as people do online in a nuanced way.
So we, it was, was it two weeks ago we talked about Paizo updating? About two weeks ago, yeah. I was definitely here. So it wasn't last week. Anyway, so they updated their community use policies. And my understanding, in brief, is that people were not happy with that. and just discuss their displeasure in a reasonable way online as people do online in a nuanced way.
And then Paizo announced on Thursday that they're reversing course in the plan to replace the community uses policy with the new fan content policy. But yeah, so that's all that I know. I don't know if you have any more detail, Russ, but that is kind of my brief overview of understanding of it.
And then Paizo announced on Thursday that they're reversing course in the plan to replace the community uses policy with the new fan content policy. But yeah, so that's all that I know. I don't know if you have any more detail, Russ, but that is kind of my brief overview of understanding of it.
which I feel like I can't remember what the difference was it was trying to bring it in line because they're bringing out second edition like they're in the process of doing that and also because of the OGL crisis they were moving away from using OGL like stuff so I think this was meant to bring it all in line with all the new stuff
which I feel like I can't remember what the difference was it was trying to bring it in line because they're bringing out second edition like they're in the process of doing that and also because of the OGL crisis they were moving away from using OGL like stuff so I think this was meant to bring it all in line with all the new stuff
But it had specific terms.
But it had specific terms.
Exactly. So if you handcrafted dice bags and sewed on different character classes on there, that was fine. But you couldn't do a print-on-demand Etsy store, you know,
Exactly. So if you handcrafted dice bags and sewed on different character classes on there, that was fine. But you couldn't do a print-on-demand Etsy store, you know,
t-shirt thing where you know the drop shipping you couldn't do that but you could make your own t-shirts and sell them one at a time yes you could do that yes nothing that's mass production was pretty much the thing so they wanted to encourage artisans yeah is the best way i can describe it
t-shirt thing where you know the drop shipping you couldn't do that but you could make your own t-shirts and sell them one at a time yes you could do that yes nothing that's mass production was pretty much the thing so they wanted to encourage artisans yeah is the best way i can describe it
but yeah from what I understand I haven't read into it too much I saw a bit of it online a lot of people in the community that use this and it affected them were unhappy with the policy in the same way that with you know the OGL situation people were like hey this doesn't seem very fair this is unclear here this doesn't seem you know so I saw a lot of that discussion happening online and in fair play to us it seems like they've gone back and said okay I think the thing was that the fan content policy didn't allow like
but yeah from what I understand I haven't read into it too much I saw a bit of it online a lot of people in the community that use this and it affected them were unhappy with the policy in the same way that with you know the OGL situation people were like hey this doesn't seem very fair this is unclear here this doesn't seem you know so I saw a lot of that discussion happening online and in fair play to us it seems like they've gone back and said okay I think the thing was that the fan content policy didn't allow like
So it looks like they're saying, well, it looks like there's for now saying you can use the old one and they're going to refine the fan content policy to clearly define
So it looks like they're saying, well, it looks like there's for now saying you can use the old one and they're going to refine the fan content policy to clearly define
things so i think the plan is to take it away redo it and i imagine they're probably going to put out a draft and get feedback before putting it out fully this time maybe i would imagine like from a pr perspective that would be my advice i'll be like hey but yeah they've apologized and said oh sorry for the misstep let's we'll we'll redo it and I think that's fair enough.
things so i think the plan is to take it away redo it and i imagine they're probably going to put out a draft and get feedback before putting it out fully this time maybe i would imagine like from a pr perspective that would be my advice i'll be like hey but yeah they've apologized and said oh sorry for the misstep let's we'll we'll redo it and I think that's fair enough.
I think that's fair enough for me.
I think that's fair enough for me.
And I saw some people online comparing it and I think, I don't feel this is the same because it's... No, it's not the same at all.
And I saw some people online comparing it and I think, I don't feel this is the same because it's... No, it's not the same at all.
Who would do that, PJ? PJ?
Who would do that, PJ? PJ?
Yeah, yeah. So what is it? There's two editions. You've got the standard edition, which is the rulebook and the card set. And the limited edition. And then there's a limited edition, which has a GM screen, dice and tokens as well.
Yeah, yeah. So what is it? There's two editions. You've got the standard edition, which is the rulebook and the card set. And the limited edition. And then there's a limited edition, which has a GM screen, dice and tokens as well.
That's a commitment to luxury. Pre-order it now. You can pre-order it. No Kickstarter for this one. No Kickstarter. You can pre-order it now.
That's a commitment to luxury. Pre-order it now. You can pre-order it. No Kickstarter for this one. No Kickstarter. You can pre-order it now.
Yeah. Well, spring 2025, there'll be a big old splash of news about it then, I guess.
Yeah. Well, spring 2025, there'll be a big old splash of news about it then, I guess.
That's not news. That's not news.
That's not news. That's not news.
Yeah, a nice little conversation about the differences between board games and RPGs.
Yeah, a nice little conversation about the differences between board games and RPGs.
Chris Cox and AI.
Chris Cox and AI.
They opportunistically re-announced the thing that everybody announced a year ago.
They opportunistically re-announced the thing that everybody announced a year ago.
It would be a great opportunity. Yeah.
It would be a great opportunity. Yeah.
Apparently so.
Apparently so.
It's the same. It's like the same as everyone's.
It's the same. It's like the same as everyone's.
We made it a year ago as well. It's like, yes, we're all saying it. We're all saying we're not using AI for art. We're not using AI for text. We want artists. We want humans to make our things. We want artists to be paid for their work. We're all saying it.
We made it a year ago as well. It's like, yes, we're all saying it. We're all saying we're not using AI for art. We're not using AI for text. We want artists. We want humans to make our things. We want artists to be paid for their work. We're all saying it.
Well, yeah.
Well, yeah.
I'm like, well. I'm sorry.
I'm like, well. I'm sorry.
There's some more news about that Pathfinder video game.
There's some more news about that Pathfinder video game.
Sure. It is based on a classic Pathfinder adventure. It's the one with the 3D miniatures and animated effects. The one that looks a lot like Project Sigily.
Sure. It is based on a classic Pathfinder adventure. It's the one with the 3D miniatures and animated effects. The one that looks a lot like Project Sigily.
Well, should I tell you what happened this week, Jess?
Well, should I tell you what happened this week, Jess?
Sigily. It adapts a classic Pathfinder adventure called The Dragon's Demand, but updates it to Pathfinder 2E.
Sigily. It adapts a classic Pathfinder adventure called The Dragon's Demand, but updates it to Pathfinder 2E.
Oh, we mentioned it, yeah. Okay, so you have more. Just a little bit more information, yeah. So you will control a party of four characters and three companion characters, which you can choose from about a dozen different companion characters. You can potentially romance your companion characters, because that's a big thing these days.
Oh, we mentioned it, yeah. Okay, so you have more. Just a little bit more information, yeah. So you will control a party of four characters and three companion characters, which you can choose from about a dozen different companion characters. You can potentially romance your companion characters, because that's a big thing these days.
And there's a list of the classes that you can build your characters from and the ancestries, which are basically kind of the standard Pathfinder 2e ones. But yeah, that's... It's really interesting that it's like a halfway point between Baldur's Gate and a virtual tabletop. It's kind of like halfway. It sits between those two things. So it's a video game that looks like a virtual tabletop.
And there's a list of the classes that you can build your characters from and the ancestries, which are basically kind of the standard Pathfinder 2e ones. But yeah, that's... It's really interesting that it's like a halfway point between Baldur's Gate and a virtual tabletop. It's kind of like halfway. It sits between those two things. So it's a video game that looks like a virtual tabletop.
Well, you already know what happened this week, but I'm going to tell the listeners what happened this week.
Well, you already know what happened this week, but I'm going to tell the listeners what happened this week.
Yeah, I'm interested too. Yeah, I'm interested.
Yeah, I'm interested too. Yeah, I'm interested.
So I was sitting happily in my house, as one does, and the delivery driver from our local supermarket turns up in his lorry, reverses into our drive, keeps reversing, keeps reversing, keeps reversing, and reverses into the front of the house.
So I was sitting happily in my house, as one does, and the delivery driver from our local supermarket turns up in his lorry, reverses into our drive, keeps reversing, keeps reversing, keeps reversing, and reverses into the front of the house.
Yeah, delay the other one then.
Yeah, delay the other one then.
There cannot possibly be more news. I have some.
There cannot possibly be more news. I have some.
Yeah, I've got a Kickstarter. Faster Purple Worm Everybody Dies Volume 1.
Yeah, I've got a Kickstarter. Faster Purple Worm Everybody Dies Volume 1.
Not that I've seen it, but you always end in a TPK. And in this adventure, you choose a short adventure and the players can just be really reckless because they are going to die. It's going to be a TPK. I think it's a concept. So you just recklessly do all these insane things.
Not that I've seen it, but you always end in a TPK. And in this adventure, you choose a short adventure and the players can just be really reckless because they are going to die. It's going to be a TPK. I think it's a concept. So you just recklessly do all these insane things.
As I understand it. Yeah.
As I understand it. Yeah.
And that's over on Kickstarter right now with five days to go on that one.
And that's over on Kickstarter right now with five days to go on that one.
And that's done very well. That's done about $150,000-ish. Nice.
And that's done very well. That's done about $150,000-ish. Nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All the stuff.
All the stuff.
Yeah. So... You can go and look at that. I mean, it is awesome. So, should we just quickly go through the stuff?
Yeah. So... You can go and look at that. I mean, it is awesome. So, should we just quickly go through the stuff?
All right. So, stuff number one.
All right. So, stuff number one.
Stuff number one. So, think Monstrous Menagerie, if you're familiar with that. It's everything you loved about that, plus this new stuff.
Stuff number one. So, think Monstrous Menagerie, if you're familiar with that. It's everything you loved about that, plus this new stuff.
So we've got 300 more monsters.
So we've got 300 more monsters.
These include the Whisper Snake, the Deathless Legionnaire, Death Spiders, Prismatic Oozes, Advocate Devils, and about 295 more. We've got a new monster type, which is called the Horde Monster.
These include the Whisper Snake, the Deathless Legionnaire, Death Spiders, Prismatic Oozes, Advocate Devils, and about 295 more. We've got a new monster type, which is called the Horde Monster.
So, in Monsters from Legendary 1, we had elite monsters, which is designed to basically be a solo encounter. Like, it can challenge an entire party. So, you have elite versions of monsters in Monsters from Legendary 1. We have squads in Monsters from Legendary 1, which is sort of like a swarm of beetles or something. Yeah. A small thing.
So, in Monsters from Legendary 1, we had elite monsters, which is designed to basically be a solo encounter. Like, it can challenge an entire party. So, you have elite versions of monsters in Monsters from Legendary 1. We have squads in Monsters from Legendary 1, which is sort of like a swarm of beetles or something. Yeah. A small thing.
I did not go out of my way to specify, please do not drive into our house.
I did not go out of my way to specify, please do not drive into our house.
But the horde monster is basically designed so that you can have loads and loads and loads of them, and the heroes can...
But the horde monster is basically designed so that you can have loads and loads and loads of them, and the heroes can...
Yeah, it's when the evil necromancer summons like a hundred zombies and then you have to fight through them to get to the necromancer and stuff. That sort of thing. So we've got those.
Yeah, it's when the evil necromancer summons like a hundred zombies and then you have to fight through them to get to the necromancer and stuff. That sort of thing. So we've got those.
Speaking about the necromancer.
Speaking about the necromancer.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, basically monsters that gain levels.
Yeah, basically monsters that gain levels.
Which is kind of cool. Yeah. Well, the fun thing about that is we're starting that in Monstrous Menagerie 2.
Which is kind of cool. Yeah. Well, the fun thing about that is we're starting that in Monstrous Menagerie 2.
But next year, we're going to be bringing out a massive book on basically companions and pets. Yes. Which will leverage those rules. More. That's going to be fun.
But next year, we're going to be bringing out a massive book on basically companions and pets. Yes. Which will leverage those rules. More. That's going to be fun.
I am not admitting liability. As the Tesco driver told me, he was very apologetic because he'd knocked out one of the pillars at the front of the house and the balcony, one of the supporting pillars of the balcony. And we were like, that doesn't look safe. And he went back to his lorry and he phoned it into Tesco to tell them what had happened.
I am not admitting liability. As the Tesco driver told me, he was very apologetic because he'd knocked out one of the pillars at the front of the house and the balcony, one of the supporting pillars of the balcony. And we were like, that doesn't look safe. And he went back to his lorry and he phoned it into Tesco to tell them what had happened.
Yeah. So it's also got tons of high-tier monsters.
Yeah. So it's also got tons of high-tier monsters.
A higher proportion of high tier monsters than the previous book, including a lot of unique elite villains. Yeah. Named villains, like including archdevils and lich lords and dragon kings and gods and, you know, things like that.
A higher proportion of high tier monsters than the previous book, including a lot of unique elite villains. Yeah. Named villains, like including archdevils and lich lords and dragon kings and gods and, you know, things like that.
We have got a load of great worms because not every type of monster, every type of dragon in Monstrous Mystery 1 got a great worm because of space issues, because we had like 600 or monsters in there already. Yeah. So we now have Earth, River, Shadow, Amethyst, Emerald, Sapphire, Brass, Bronze, Copper and Silver Great Worms to fill out that list. Oh my. Oh my, oh my, oh my.
We have got a load of great worms because not every type of monster, every type of dragon in Monstrous Mystery 1 got a great worm because of space issues, because we had like 600 or monsters in there already. Yeah. So we now have Earth, River, Shadow, Amethyst, Emerald, Sapphire, Brass, Bronze, Copper and Silver Great Worms to fill out that list. Oh my. Oh my, oh my, oh my.
And three new dragon types we've got. We have got Purple Dragons, also called Storm Dragons.
And three new dragon types we've got. We have got Purple Dragons, also called Storm Dragons.
We have got fey dragons.
We have got fey dragons.
Yeah, and they're very sort of petulant and unpredictable and these illusions and traps and stuff.
Yeah, and they're very sort of petulant and unpredictable and these illusions and traps and stuff.
And then we've got spirit dragons, which are kind of bound to holy places and given shape by the belief of those around them, which is kind of cool also.
And then we've got spirit dragons, which are kind of bound to holy places and given shape by the belief of those around them, which is kind of cool also.
This... They speak so highly of you.
This... They speak so highly of you.
They do. They have a club. Yeah. They have the We Love Jess Club. And they listen... And they meet every month.
They do. They have a club. Yeah. They have the We Love Jess Club. And they listen... And they meet every month.
And they listen to the podcast. And they all talk about how much they like you. And they are going to be so upset now.
And they listen to the podcast. And they all talk about how much they like you. And they are going to be so upset now.
Oh, that's a good little segue, isn't it? Thanks. Wow. Wow. I like that one. Yeah, so in Monstrous Monotory 1, we had legends and lore for each monster so that you can make checks to find out what your characters know about a monster. Now we have added false rumours. So if you make a really bad roll, there's misinformation on those tables.
Oh, that's a good little segue, isn't it? Thanks. Wow. Wow. I like that one. Yeah, so in Monstrous Monotory 1, we had legends and lore for each monster so that you can make checks to find out what your characters know about a monster. Now we have added false rumours. So if you make a really bad roll, there's misinformation on those tables.
Because if the player makes a roll and they roll a two, and then you give them some information, they're going to know that that's false information.
Because if the player makes a roll and they roll a two, and then you give them some information, they're going to know that that's false information.
I suppose so, yeah.
I suppose so, yeah.
If you're playing... I don't, I don't, I never want to have fun. I hate fun.
If you're playing... I don't, I don't, I never want to have fun. I hate fun.
And he came back and said, well, Tesco have told me not to admit liability.
And he came back and said, well, Tesco have told me not to admit liability.
I think that is all the news. I think all we have left to do is to let Mark in because he's there knocking at the door and he's been knocking at the door for the last half an hour and I'll be going, no, no, no, Mark, go away. You can't come in yet. But now he can come in and talk about... Split the board.
I think that is all the news. I think all we have left to do is to let Mark in because he's there knocking at the door and he's been knocking at the door for the last half an hour and I'll be going, no, no, no, Mark, go away. You can't come in yet. But now he can come in and talk about... Split the board.
I'm sure it's fine.
I'm sure it's fine.
so we have a special guest joining us this week some of you may already know him because mark has worked with us in various capacities over the years um so our guest is mark kenobi mark tell us well don't tell us tell the listeners because we know um what what well you know what what capacities you know what what have you worked with us over the years on
so we have a special guest joining us this week some of you may already know him because mark has worked with us in various capacities over the years um so our guest is mark kenobi mark tell us well don't tell us tell the listeners because we know um what what well you know what what capacities you know what what have you worked with us over the years on
It's factual. But he did. He did. He admitted liability because he said he wanted to be honest. And so after a few phone calls to Tesco this week, they are coming out, sending some builders out to fix it. I'm glad to say because I was worried about that. But they were perfectly good about it and they're coming out to fix it.
It's factual. But he did. He did. He admitted liability because he said he wanted to be honest. And so after a few phone calls to Tesco this week, they are coming out, sending some builders out to fix it. I'm glad to say because I was worried about that. But they were perfectly good about it and they're coming out to fix it.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
We had to cut that monster, unfortunately. But anyway, that's not why you're here. You're here because you are a board game designer also.
We had to cut that monster, unfortunately. But anyway, that's not why you're here. You're here because you are a board game designer also.
And your first game to be published, somehow we ended up being the people publishing it. Who'd have expected something like that to happen? But tell us...
And your first game to be published, somehow we ended up being the people publishing it. Who'd have expected something like that to happen? But tell us...
And there's always that one player that you suddenly realise has five times more treasure accumulated over the years than everybody else. Yep.
And there's always that one player that you suddenly realise has five times more treasure accumulated over the years than everybody else. Yep.
No one ever noticed that that one player was just taking a little bit more each time until you add it up. Just a little extra.
No one ever noticed that that one player was just taking a little bit more each time until you add it up. Just a little extra.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My version of that is you each basically take things from the treasure pile and then take turns to negotiate or bluff or whatever with the other players. And then at the end, you know, you see what treasure you've got, what you managed to acquire, what treasure you managed to sort of like negotiate to get off the other players. And you basically score victory points, points.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My version of that is you each basically take things from the treasure pile and then take turns to negotiate or bluff or whatever with the other players. And then at the end, you know, you see what treasure you've got, what you managed to acquire, what treasure you managed to sort of like negotiate to get off the other players. And you basically score victory points, points.
So hopefully sometime in the next week or so, we will have our pillow back, I guess.
So hopefully sometime in the next week or so, we will have our pillow back, I guess.
Yeah. And see who's won, who's the best treasure grabber.
Yeah. And see who's won, who's the best treasure grabber.
It's not a decorative pillar. Yes, it's a weight-loading, load-bearing, that's the word. Load-bearing.
It's not a decorative pillar. Yes, it's a weight-loading, load-bearing, that's the word. Load-bearing.
um my process has always been to start with a blank page start typing something will come out and then just go from there and i doubt very much that that's the same as everybody else's process i think everybody has their own processes that's mine it's very much a sort of like just start doing something see what comes out and then and then go and then go from there
um my process has always been to start with a blank page start typing something will come out and then just go from there and i doubt very much that that's the same as everybody else's process i think everybody has their own processes that's mine it's very much a sort of like just start doing something see what comes out and then and then go and then go from there
I don't, you know, like, I don't kind of like start with an oval structure and fill it, you know, the skeleton or anything like that. That's not, that's definitely not my way of doing it. It's like start at the beginning and start moving forward. So I think that may, it's probably not the best way to do it, to be honest. But that's not what I asked.
I don't, you know, like, I don't kind of like start with an oval structure and fill it, you know, the skeleton or anything like that. That's not, that's definitely not my way of doing it. It's like start at the beginning and start moving forward. So I think that may, it's probably not the best way to do it, to be honest. But that's not what I asked.
It's the one in front of the front door.
It's the one in front of the front door.
Well, not in front of the front door, next to the front door. So to the left of the office.
Well, not in front of the front door, next to the front door. So to the left of the office.
I think I'm the opposite. I think I'm mechanics-led. I'm not that worried about the story because I want to write the mechanics to allow the GMs and players to tell their story.
I think I'm the opposite. I think I'm mechanics-led. I'm not that worried about the story because I want to write the mechanics to allow the GMs and players to tell their story.
all the games i've written they've never they've never really had a setting in them or they've always been kind of setting yeah if you look at yeah toolkits in a way so yeah so yeah that's definitely a difference in but that said i would argue a bit that a certain mechanics lead you into a certain type of storytelling like there are certain stories yeah so i might say this is kind of like a space opera genre i'm trying to do star trekky star warsy stuff
all the games i've written they've never they've never really had a setting in them or they've always been kind of setting yeah if you look at yeah toolkits in a way so yeah so yeah that's definitely a difference in but that said i would argue a bit that a certain mechanics lead you into a certain type of storytelling like there are certain stories yeah so i might say this is kind of like a space opera genre i'm trying to do star trekky star warsy stuff
Yeah. But in that case, I'm really just borrowing a story, aren't I? I'm borrowing a genre that exists and then trying to write mechanics that work with that genre. I'm not making a story there. At least I don't feel like I am.
Yeah. But in that case, I'm really just borrowing a story, aren't I? I'm borrowing a genre that exists and then trying to write mechanics that work with that genre. I'm not making a story there. At least I don't feel like I am.
Yeah. When you're designing a board game, or in this case a card game or whatever, there are definitely overlaps and similarities. But what would you say the primary differences are in the process of doing one as opposed to the other?
Yeah. When you're designing a board game, or in this case a card game or whatever, there are definitely overlaps and similarities. But what would you say the primary differences are in the process of doing one as opposed to the other?
Yeah, I mean, you can easily make that game without any of that stuff and just say, you're trying to get these points. Yes. Yeah. It's like the story shapes it, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, you can easily make that game without any of that stuff and just say, you're trying to get these points. Yes. Yeah. It's like the story shapes it, I guess.
yeah yeah well i think in a board game you've got issues of fairness that come in there don't you so if you've got various you know four different players playing against each other it has to be fair yeah whereas in an rpg to an extent it does but not not so much because because you're not playing against each other so if one one one's a little more powerful than another doesn't really matter all that much because they're not they're not you know in conflict with each other
yeah yeah well i think in a board game you've got issues of fairness that come in there don't you so if you've got various you know four different players playing against each other it has to be fair yeah whereas in an rpg to an extent it does but not not so much because because you're not playing against each other so if one one one's a little more powerful than another doesn't really matter all that much because they're not they're not you know in conflict with each other
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's an element of experience and being able to eyeball stuff helps.
I think there's an element of experience and being able to eyeball stuff helps.
You need to have a basic sense of intuition about probabilities and how something's going to play out just because you've seen it so many times before when playing or designing or just reading games. So, I mean, that helps. RPGs usually aren't quite, I mean, not always, as mechanically complex as, say, board games. I mean, some of them are very mechanically complex.
You need to have a basic sense of intuition about probabilities and how something's going to play out just because you've seen it so many times before when playing or designing or just reading games. So, I mean, that helps. RPGs usually aren't quite, I mean, not always, as mechanically complex as, say, board games. I mean, some of them are very mechanically complex.
But, you know, on average, like any individual subsystem of an RPG, like picking a lot, for example, it's not a particularly mechanically complex thing. It's you're rolling in D&D, you're rolling in D20, adding a thing, does it beat 15 or 16 or whatever? Yeah. It's not like a...
But, you know, on average, like any individual subsystem of an RPG, like picking a lot, for example, it's not a particularly mechanically complex thing. It's you're rolling in D&D, you're rolling in D20, adding a thing, does it beat 15 or 16 or whatever? Yeah. It's not like a...
really really complicated thing to get your head around and sort of intuitively sense how that's going to play out and other than that you play test it you lean on stuff that you already know works and reuse ideas and concepts that you know you've done in previous games and they've worked or you've realized you could have done a little better and now in this game you know it's just it's a similar mechanic but it's a iteration on that so i guess in a sense like it is kind of like what mark was saying but just on a much slower scale
really really complicated thing to get your head around and sort of intuitively sense how that's going to play out and other than that you play test it you lean on stuff that you already know works and reuse ideas and concepts that you know you've done in previous games and they've worked or you've realized you could have done a little better and now in this game you know it's just it's a similar mechanic but it's a iteration on that so i guess in a sense like it is kind of like what mark was saying but just on a much slower scale
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would also say sort of in my RPG design, I don't think I've ever written an entirely original rule that requires a massive amount of experimentation to work out how it works. It will always be based on something I've seen or played or written before and has already probably had decades of playtesting just through its existence in the industry. Yeah. I guess.
I would also say sort of in my RPG design, I don't think I've ever written an entirely original rule that requires a massive amount of experimentation to work out how it works. It will always be based on something I've seen or played or written before and has already probably had decades of playtesting just through its existence in the industry. Yeah. I guess.
So if you're writing something based on 5E, 5E is a very well-played game. If you're using that chassis, you already know that 90% of the balancing work is done for you and the mechanical work is done for you because Wizards of the Coast did it and tens and hundreds of thousands of people have played that game ever since. You know the wrinkles. So... Yeah. I think it's easier.
So if you're writing something based on 5E, 5E is a very well-played game. If you're using that chassis, you already know that 90% of the balancing work is done for you and the mechanical work is done for you because Wizards of the Coast did it and tens and hundreds of thousands of people have played that game ever since. You know the wrinkles. So... Yeah. I think it's easier.
I think I would find writing a board game harder than writing an RPG, I think.
I think I would find writing a board game harder than writing an RPG, I think.
Exciting, exciting, exciting.
Exciting, exciting, exciting.
I think board games are probably more vulnerable to a broken mechanic as well. So in a board game, if you've got a broken mechanic that can screw up the entire game for everybody, whereas in an RPG, if your lockpicking rule is broken, it doesn't really affect how the fight against the ogre is going to go or how a fireball spell works. You know, all these other things are not...
I think board games are probably more vulnerable to a broken mechanic as well. So in a board game, if you've got a broken mechanic that can screw up the entire game for everybody, whereas in an RPG, if your lockpicking rule is broken, it doesn't really affect how the fight against the ogre is going to go or how a fireball spell works. You know, all these other things are not...
As closely entwined as they are in a board game, I think.
As closely entwined as they are in a board game, I think.
And they all have to feed together.
And they all have to feed together.
Anyway, shall we do some news?
Anyway, shall we do some news?
People are much more willing to fudge with RPG rules and board game rules, aren't they?
People are much more willing to fudge with RPG rules and board game rules, aren't they?
When I play chess, I replace the queen with Hulk.
When I play chess, I replace the queen with Hulk.
Hmm. For me, okay, I haven't... We say designing board games. I've only attempted to design one. I'm partway through it. And if I'm honest, it's the same game that I've been working on and had versions of for throughout my career in different games, and really what it is is just a combat system. It's not a board game.
Hmm. For me, okay, I haven't... We say designing board games. I've only attempted to design one. I'm partway through it. And if I'm honest, it's the same game that I've been working on and had versions of for throughout my career in different games, and really what it is is just a combat system. It's not a board game.
So really, I'm kind of designing an RPG combat system, and that's where I'm coming from. This one happens to be about spaceships, but that's kind of what it is. Like I said, that's mechanics first and stuff. That's what I'm doing. I'm designing an RPG combat system, and I've been designing this specific one for a long, long, long time.
So really, I'm kind of designing an RPG combat system, and that's where I'm coming from. This one happens to be about spaceships, but that's kind of what it is. Like I said, that's mechanics first and stuff. That's what I'm doing. I'm designing an RPG combat system, and I've been designing this specific one for a long, long, long time.
Well, there's a new Ravenloft novel coming next year.
Well, there's a new Ravenloft novel coming next year.
Yeah, in the sense that you could probably take most RPGs' combat rules and make a skirmish game out of those. I'm just doing it the other way around. I'm making a skirmish game, but you could certainly use those as the combat rules for a larger RPG. Not that the rest of the RPG will be there, but in concept, you could imagine an RPG surrounding those skirmish rules.
Yeah, in the sense that you could probably take most RPGs' combat rules and make a skirmish game out of those. I'm just doing it the other way around. I'm making a skirmish game, but you could certainly use those as the combat rules for a larger RPG. Not that the rest of the RPG will be there, but in concept, you could imagine an RPG surrounding those skirmish rules.
Which is interesting.
Which is interesting.
It's not so much a board game as a war game, isn't it? That's why. There's a slight difference there.
It's not so much a board game as a war game, isn't it? That's why. There's a slight difference there.
Well, I have to admit, I've read very few Ravenloft novels. I mean, there haven't been, like, the 80s? Or maybe there have, and I just don't know about them. But I remember reading them a really, really long time ago. Or the 90s. Maybe the 90s, that would have been. I don't know. Yeah, it'd have to be the 90s. I don't know.
Well, I have to admit, I've read very few Ravenloft novels. I mean, there haven't been, like, the 80s? Or maybe there have, and I just don't know about them. But I remember reading them a really, really long time ago. Or the 90s. Maybe the 90s, that would have been. I don't know. Yeah, it'd have to be the 90s. I don't know.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think going to that fun aspect, I think there is a difference between board games and RPGs there because, at least for me, with an RPG, I think it has more of a buffer, more of a cushion in that, for me, probably the people I'm playing with is more important than the game. And I probably enjoy most RPGs if I like the people I'm playing with, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think going to that fun aspect, I think there is a difference between board games and RPGs there because, at least for me, with an RPG, I think it has more of a buffer, more of a cushion in that, for me, probably the people I'm playing with is more important than the game. And I probably enjoy most RPGs if I like the people I'm playing with, to be honest.
You see a lot of people say, oh, I hated that RPG, I don't like the mechanical, I don't really care. You know, I'm having fun with some people I like, it's fine. But I think with a board game, I think the actual game is more important. I mean, obviously the people you're playing with is important, but there's a good chance you might be playing with people you don't know in a board game.
You see a lot of people say, oh, I hated that RPG, I don't like the mechanical, I don't really care. You know, I'm having fun with some people I like, it's fine. But I think with a board game, I think the actual game is more important. I mean, obviously the people you're playing with is important, but there's a good chance you might be playing with people you don't know in a board game.
With RPGs, you're more likely to be playing with friends. Not necessarily, you might be playing at a convention. So I think maybe there's a slightly different emphasis on the actual game itself as opposed to the players. Does that make sense? Yeah.
With RPGs, you're more likely to be playing with friends. Not necessarily, you might be playing at a convention. So I think maybe there's a slightly different emphasis on the actual game itself as opposed to the players. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Four hours is too long for me anyway on any... My RPG sessions, I don't like a four-hour session. It's too long for me.
Four hours is too long for me anyway on any... My RPG sessions, I don't like a four-hour session. It's too long for me.
Yeah, so obviously the Ravenloft campaign is hitting. We all know what that is. It's the sort of gothic horror, Strahd von Zarevich, zombies, all that sort of stuff, vampires, that sort of stuff.
Yeah, so obviously the Ravenloft campaign is hitting. We all know what that is. It's the sort of gothic horror, Strahd von Zarevich, zombies, all that sort of stuff, vampires, that sort of stuff.
There's also some RPGs which people say this is basically a board game. So there is a Venn diagram with something in the middle there. There is an overlap. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to start, like, addition wars and flame wars and stuff, but there are certain additions of certain games which a lot of people quite vociferously said, this is not really an RPG, it's a board game.
There's also some RPGs which people say this is basically a board game. So there is a Venn diagram with something in the middle there. There is an overlap. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to start, like, addition wars and flame wars and stuff, but there are certain additions of certain games which a lot of people quite vociferously said, this is not really an RPG, it's a board game.
In one, you play a character. In the other, you might control a character. I think you're spraying hairs there.
In one, you play a character. In the other, you might control a character. I think you're spraying hairs there.
But there's going to be a new Ravenloft book from Penguin Random House.
But there's going to be a new Ravenloft book from Penguin Random House.
I mean, that's how I play chess, obviously, but you know.
I mean, that's how I play chess, obviously, but you know.
They're all disappointed about that, I know, I know.
They're all disappointed about that, I know, I know.
I'm a lot less experienced in board games than both of you two. A lot less. I've always been an RPG guy, not a board game person. I've played a dozen board games or something. It's not like the hundreds you two have probably played.
I'm a lot less experienced in board games than both of you two. A lot less. I've always been an RPG guy, not a board game person. I've played a dozen board games or something. It's not like the hundreds you two have probably played.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not necessarily the person to really speak on the differences between the two, I guess, because I just don't have the breadth of experience needed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not necessarily the person to really speak on the differences between the two, I guess, because I just don't have the breadth of experience needed.
I think it's the role playing that's the difference. Are you role playing or are you not? I guess. That's the only real difference, I think.
I think it's the role playing that's the difference. Are you role playing or are you not? I guess. That's the only real difference, I think.
There's no author named in the listing, at least yet, but it does say that it's going to feature Count Strahd, which I suppose is the main Ravenloft character. Is he the author?
There's no author named in the listing, at least yet, but it does say that it's going to feature Count Strahd, which I suppose is the main Ravenloft character. Is he the author?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, board game is a very broad tent, isn't it? That's true. Yeah. I mean, board games do have subdivisions, though, don't they? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The terminology is there to make the distinction between chess and Screamhaven.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, board game is a very broad tent, isn't it? That's true. Yeah. I mean, board games do have subdivisions, though, don't they? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. The terminology is there to make the distinction between chess and Screamhaven.
So going back to Split the Horde specifically, let's just talk about the development of that. So how long did it take you to develop that game? I mean, obviously, it's an ongoing process. It gets tweaked right up to the last minute. But the bulk of it, so it was a game that you could sit down and play, and it was pretty similar to what will be in the box.
So going back to Split the Horde specifically, let's just talk about the development of that. So how long did it take you to develop that game? I mean, obviously, it's an ongoing process. It gets tweaked right up to the last minute. But the bulk of it, so it was a game that you could sit down and play, and it was pretty similar to what will be in the box.
But you'd been working on it before then because, yeah.
But you'd been working on it before then because, yeah.
Is this like some kind of weird fourth wall meta thing where the actual... That's what I'm asking. ...fiction character of Count Strahd is the author of the Penguin Random House book about him? I don't know.
Is this like some kind of weird fourth wall meta thing where the actual... That's what I'm asking. ...fiction character of Count Strahd is the author of the Penguin Random House book about him? I don't know.
Yeah. But at that point, it's still fundamentally the same game.
Yeah. But at that point, it's still fundamentally the same game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And then after that, of course, we had the process of getting the art and then the prototype versions of it and then playtesting it at conventions. And, you know, there's a whole load of stuff that then takes place, which is all fun. None of which I've been involved with, I've got to say. The art design, I think, is amazing, but I can't take credit for it.
Yeah, yeah. And then after that, of course, we had the process of getting the art and then the prototype versions of it and then playtesting it at conventions. And, you know, there's a whole load of stuff that then takes place, which is all fun. None of which I've been involved with, I've got to say. The art design, I think, is amazing, but I can't take credit for it.
I don't know. Yeah, we'll find out in April 2025. It's going to be...
I don't know. Yeah, we'll find out in April 2025. It's going to be...
That's lovely.
That's lovely.
Can't... Yeah, yeah. Couldn't tell you I was any happier. I think graphic designers... Graphic designers are some of the most amazing people in the world. And they're so important, just getting these things. Whether it's a book or a card game or whatever it is, it's so important.
Can't... Yeah, yeah. Couldn't tell you I was any happier. I think graphic designers... Graphic designers are some of the most amazing people in the world. And they're so important, just getting these things. Whether it's a book or a card game or whatever it is, it's so important.
It took it to a different level.
It took it to a different level.
It doesn't say much. Basically, this is the entire description. It's almost nothing. A group of adventurers must fight their way through a dark and twisted realm known as the Domains of Dread, where powerful dark lords rule over worlds filled with supernatural horrors. That's it.
It doesn't say much. Basically, this is the entire description. It's almost nothing. A group of adventurers must fight their way through a dark and twisted realm known as the Domains of Dread, where powerful dark lords rule over worlds filled with supernatural horrors. That's it.
totally different skills so yeah so that's been really interesting for me and it's one of those things i think you get to a point where you're too close to see it and you have to put it out to other people to feedback and things so yeah so that's yeah you need to give it to people who don't already know how to play the game yeah so that there's no they're not going into that with some assumptions or knowledge yeah and so that if so therefore if it's not in the wall book they won't know it because yeah yeah so that's that's that's always important i think
totally different skills so yeah so that's been really interesting for me and it's one of those things i think you get to a point where you're too close to see it and you have to put it out to other people to feedback and things so yeah so that's yeah you need to give it to people who don't already know how to play the game yeah so that there's no they're not going into that with some assumptions or knowledge yeah and so that if so therefore if it's not in the wall book they won't know it because yeah yeah so that's that's that's always important i think
You almost have to tell people what a card is. You have to get that basic almost, really. You can't assume anything. You can't assume that the player knows a single thing.
You almost have to tell people what a card is. You have to get that basic almost, really. You can't assume anything. You can't assume that the player knows a single thing.
But still. So again, really glad with where that's got to. Yeah, I think one of my favourite things is always when your first proof copy of a book arrives and you open it up and it's all laid out and you can see the art and the tech and it all looks gorgeous. So do you remember getting hold of the first proper pretty proof version? Prototype, yeah. Prototype, yeah, of the game.
But still. So again, really glad with where that's got to. Yeah, I think one of my favourite things is always when your first proof copy of a book arrives and you open it up and it's all laid out and you can see the art and the tech and it all looks gorgeous. So do you remember getting hold of the first proper pretty proof version? Prototype, yeah. Prototype, yeah, of the game.
Do you remember that occasion? So that hasn't happened yet.
Do you remember that occasion? So that hasn't happened yet.
And it was just that moment of... I will open it and I will instantly see a typo straight away. No matter how many times it's been edited. You open it, look at it, typo. First thing you see. Always, without fail. It's quite frustrating. That really wasn't a dig, it was an observation.
And it was just that moment of... I will open it and I will instantly see a typo straight away. No matter how many times it's been edited. You open it, look at it, typo. First thing you see. Always, without fail. It's quite frustrating. That really wasn't a dig, it was an observation.
Could be.
Could be.
Could be.
Could be.
Yeah, my local grocery store is full of supernatural horrors.
Yeah, my local grocery store is full of supernatural horrors.
but you know i i kind of feel like for you you know it's a first step in building a portfolio of games and building your brand as a game designer and for us it's exactly the same thing it's the first step in building a portfolio of board games and building a brand as a board game designer you know we're both in exactly the same position here yeah at least how i see it anyway
but you know i i kind of feel like for you you know it's a first step in building a portfolio of games and building your brand as a game designer and for us it's exactly the same thing it's the first step in building a portfolio of board games and building a brand as a board game designer you know we're both in exactly the same position here yeah at least how i see it anyway
Okie dokie. That's it for this week. We're all going to go and have a lovely weekend. Thank you all for listening. Thank you, Mark, so much for joining us. It's been a pleasure as always. Same here. Thank you so much for having me. Until next week, goodbye.
Okie dokie. That's it for this week. We're all going to go and have a lovely weekend. Thank you all for listening. Thank you, Mark, so much for joining us. It's been a pleasure as always. Same here. Thank you so much for having me. Until next week, goodbye.
That is a lot of time. How many days is that? Was it 400 and... 476.6 476 divided by 24 is 20 full days really if you count them as eight hour days yeah eight hour days like a shift like a work day yeah okay this is how many work days 60 work days
That is a lot of time. How many days is that? Was it 400 and... 476.6 476 divided by 24 is 20 full days really if you count them as eight hour days yeah eight hour days like a shift like a work day yeah okay this is how many work days 60 work days
two two months of yeah i love two months because yeah i mean coming up to three months and that's over a year though because i started playing like september october time last year because it's the one year anniversary so of the last year you spent three months of it playing builders gate yeah no regrets no regrets fair enough fair enough
two two months of yeah i love two months because yeah i mean coming up to three months and that's over a year though because i started playing like september october time last year because it's the one year anniversary so of the last year you spent three months of it playing builders gate yeah no regrets no regrets fair enough fair enough
Yeah, and you can dig out the 80s and or 90s and or whenever it was novels as well. There was two where Lord Soth went from Dragonlance to Ravenloft. which I believe Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman, the Dragonlance authors, say do not consider canon.
Yeah, and you can dig out the 80s and or 90s and or whenever it was novels as well. There was two where Lord Soth went from Dragonlance to Ravenloft. which I believe Margaret Weiss and Tracy Hickman, the Dragonlance authors, say do not consider canon.
They say it didn't happen. Officially it did happen because it was in the official books, but apparently they don't consider it so.
They say it didn't happen. Officially it did happen because it was in the official books, but apparently they don't consider it so.
Go on.
Go on.
How many have you purchased so far?
How many have you purchased so far?
Only zero?
Only zero?
It's now become a point of principle.
It's now become a point of principle.
A number between zero and 700 inclusive. Is it one? It is not one.
A number between zero and 700 inclusive. Is it one? It is not one.
There's a whole mix mash of various things.
There's a whole mix mash of various things.
yeah you can grab it anywhere now amazon your local game store random place anywhere you want you can why not anywhere you won't you probably can't get it from your local grocery store well you might be able to i don't know who knows probably probably in like the us probably it's available in lots of i think it's available in barnes and noble yeah so uh it'll probably be available over here in waterstones they do have a bit of a game section now
yeah you can grab it anywhere now amazon your local game store random place anywhere you want you can why not anywhere you won't you probably can't get it from your local grocery store well you might be able to i don't know who knows probably probably in like the us probably it's available in lots of i think it's available in barnes and noble yeah so uh it'll probably be available over here in waterstones they do have a bit of a game section now
Probably. Probably.
Probably. Probably.
Go on then. How about Elfquest? That's not Dungeons & Dragons.
Go on then. How about Elfquest? That's not Dungeons & Dragons.
Elfquest originally came out and it was a sort of RPG of a comic.
Elfquest originally came out and it was a sort of RPG of a comic.
So there is a new edition from Chaosium, which is coming to Kickstarter in October 24. That's the next month. That is next month, yeah, yeah. Very, very soon. And this is like a classic reissue, so it's not a new edition. So it's going to be the game in its original boxed edition, boxed set.
So there is a new edition from Chaosium, which is coming to Kickstarter in October 24. That's the next month. That is next month, yeah, yeah. Very, very soon. And this is like a classic reissue, so it's not a new edition. So it's going to be the game in its original boxed edition, boxed set.
Hello, hello, hello and welcome to Morris's unofficial tabletop RPG talk.
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But with some added later supplements chucked in.
But with some added later supplements chucked in.
Yeah, so it's not a new edition. It's a reprint from 1984, but with extra stuff, basically.
Yeah, so it's not a new edition. It's a reprint from 1984, but with extra stuff, basically.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say about it, really.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else to say about it, really.
I have not played it, no. I've never seen the game in my life or read the comics, so I don't know enough about it.
I have not played it, no. I've never seen the game in my life or read the comics, so I don't know enough about it.
I think that's really cool. Especially that you play an elf. I know that much.
I think that's really cool. Especially that you play an elf. I know that much.
Yeah. I think you can play other species as well, but it's kind of about a bunch of elves, and they live on this planet, Earth-like planet, with two moons, and there's comics about them, and... That's pretty much all I know, I'm afraid. That's the extent of my knowledge.
Yeah. I think you can play other species as well, but it's kind of about a bunch of elves, and they live on this planet, Earth-like planet, with two moons, and there's comics about them, and... That's pretty much all I know, I'm afraid. That's the extent of my knowledge.
Yeah. I think it's a bit sci-fi. They fly around in these, it says here, egg-shaped spaceships, and they've got psychic powers and stuff.
Yeah. I think it's a bit sci-fi. They fly around in these, it says here, egg-shaped spaceships, and they've got psychic powers and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're being elves and stuff.
You're being elves and stuff.
Yeah, yeah. All right, what have you got? What have you got? What news have you got?
Yeah, yeah. All right, what have you got? What have you got? What news have you got?
Dagger heart. So, we have this... Is that, right, a heart that's a dagger? Is it a dagger heart? Or is it, like, a dagger intended for a heart?
Dagger heart. So, we have this... Is that, right, a heart that's a dagger? Is it a dagger heart? Or is it, like, a dagger intended for a heart?
yeah yeah i'm intrigued about the system like there's two t12s and one's a hope die and one's a fear die so i'm intrigued you know i mean i suppose i could just go and look at the uh play test versions i'd know exactly how it works but i'll wait for it to come out i think yeah and of course there are actual plays available because uh critical role of course are doing campaigns yeah with dagger heart so so you can yeah they'll have the information out there about it
yeah yeah i'm intrigued about the system like there's two t12s and one's a hope die and one's a fear die so i'm intrigued you know i mean i suppose i could just go and look at the uh play test versions i'd know exactly how it works but i'll wait for it to come out i think yeah and of course there are actual plays available because uh critical role of course are doing campaigns yeah with dagger heart so so you can yeah they'll have the information out there about it
You get this 300-page book, but you also get a box of 279 cards as well.
You get this 300-page book, but you also get a box of 279 cards as well.
Oh, yeah, then they're looking for that specific system, yeah.
Oh, yeah, then they're looking for that specific system, yeah.
Fighting Fantasy. Classic adventure game books. So they've been away for 20 years, but they are returning in... In the US. In the US, yes. But I'm sure you could order them online and get them posted to any place in the world.
Fighting Fantasy. Classic adventure game books. So they've been away for 20 years, but they are returning in... In the US. In the US, yes. But I'm sure you could order them online and get them posted to any place in the world.
There is.
There is.
Yeah, so Steve Jackson Games is distributing, well, publishing them. But the original Fighting Fantasy series was written by Sir Ian Livingston and Steve Jackson, but it's not the same Steve Jackson. And I didn't realise it wasn't the same Steve Jackson. So when I first saw this, I was like, yeah, of course. And then I was like, oh, a different Steve Jackson.
Yeah, so Steve Jackson Games is distributing, well, publishing them. But the original Fighting Fantasy series was written by Sir Ian Livingston and Steve Jackson, but it's not the same Steve Jackson. And I didn't realise it wasn't the same Steve Jackson. So when I first saw this, I was like, yeah, of course. And then I was like, oh, a different Steve Jackson.
So I was confused. But anyway.
So I was confused. But anyway.
Yeah, it's a bit cloudy here.
Yeah, it's a bit cloudy here.
This conversation is like what was happening inside my brain when I was taking on this piece of news originally. So I'm glad it's not just me.
This conversation is like what was happening inside my brain when I was taking on this piece of news originally. So I'm glad it's not just me.
Was I sorry?
Was I sorry?
Anyway, there's going to be five books made available in early 2025, and then they're doing another five later that year. But there are like 50 titles in this series, so I imagine the plan is to kind of do all of those if they sell well, which I imagine it will, because since 1982, over 20 million copies of the series were sold, which is quite a lot.
Anyway, there's going to be five books made available in early 2025, and then they're doing another five later that year. But there are like 50 titles in this series, so I imagine the plan is to kind of do all of those if they sell well, which I imagine it will, because since 1982, over 20 million copies of the series were sold, which is quite a lot.
Who were the dinosaurs in this analogy?
Who were the dinosaurs in this analogy?
Well, people still use a lot of D20s, so, you know, I guess those are the crocodiles in this analogy then.
Well, people still use a lot of D20s, so, you know, I guess those are the crocodiles in this analogy then.
Or the birds, yeah.
Or the birds, yeah.
we may have taken this um a little too far yeah let's start off topic yeah just news that is not related to the dungeon masters guide go for it discord has partnered with roll20 to give away a free adventure and this is part of the 50th anniversary promotions so you can play the adventure directly in discord because discord roll20 has a new integration with discord as an app so that you can use
we may have taken this um a little too far yeah let's start off topic yeah just news that is not related to the dungeon masters guide go for it discord has partnered with roll20 to give away a free adventure and this is part of the 50th anniversary promotions so you can play the adventure directly in discord because discord roll20 has a new integration with discord as an app so that you can use
So yeah, there's a free adventure. You can use the app launcher on Discord to find and launch it. It's called Voyage into Discord. Yeah, and there's also profile effects that are available on Discord and things like that. So it's basically a way to show off how this all works. And it's got a cute wrapper of a baby Displacer Beast or an Owlbear Cub and stuff like that for you on Discord.
So yeah, there's a free adventure. You can use the app launcher on Discord to find and launch it. It's called Voyage into Discord. Yeah, and there's also profile effects that are available on Discord and things like that. So it's basically a way to show off how this all works. And it's got a cute wrapper of a baby Displacer Beast or an Owlbear Cub and stuff like that for you on Discord.
But yeah, so it's a Halloween season one. And yeah.
But yeah, so it's a Halloween season one. And yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't used them, but it's a new thing, so I think part of this is to promote that that works. I know when I used to play online during the pandemic a lot, we used Discord and Roll20. Those were the things we were using, so this would have been really useful then, but I'm mostly trying to play in person these days.
I haven't used them, but it's a new thing, so I think part of this is to promote that that works. I know when I used to play online during the pandemic a lot, we used Discord and Roll20. Those were the things we were using, so this would have been really useful then, but I'm mostly trying to play in person these days.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's doing all right, isn't it?
It's doing all right, isn't it?
So, okay, yeah.
So, okay, yeah.
There we go. You don't think he's moving into that new PR role?
There we go. You don't think he's moving into that new PR role?
I don't know.
I don't know.
We still don't know who's got that role yet. I assume they're still trying to convince someone to take it.
We still don't know who's got that role yet. I assume they're still trying to convince someone to take it.
Oh, yeah. Well, there'll be a team of people who, you know, it's not like it was one person that did everything. So there'll be a team covering for stuff. Someone who's quite stressed doing overtime.
Oh, yeah. Well, there'll be a team of people who, you know, it's not like it was one person that did everything. So there'll be a team covering for stuff. Someone who's quite stressed doing overtime.
Well, anyway. Anyway.
Well, anyway. Anyway.
I'm not done.
I'm not done.
Well, there's something you should know about, Russ. So Monstrous Mastery 2, we're planning on bringing to the Kickstarter this wintertime. And the introductory chapter is out. We've put that out for people to have a look at.
Well, there's something you should know about, Russ. So Monstrous Mastery 2, we're planning on bringing to the Kickstarter this wintertime. And the introductory chapter is out. We've put that out for people to have a look at.
Yes, but it gives you some info and information about what the tools are going to have. Because obviously it has all the stuff in the first one, like legends, lore, science, behaviour, encounters, treasure and stuff. But all the new stuff as well, because there's horde monsters and heroic monsters and things like that. Loads of stuff going on. So yeah, it gives you a preview of that.
Yes, but it gives you some info and information about what the tools are going to have. Because obviously it has all the stuff in the first one, like legends, lore, science, behaviour, encounters, treasure and stuff. But all the new stuff as well, because there's horde monsters and heroic monsters and things like that. Loads of stuff going on. So yeah, it gives you a preview of that.
So I thought if people were interested, you can download that chapter and have a look.
So I thought if people were interested, you can download that chapter and have a look.
uh in the monster game side yeah what we should do actually a bit closer time is probably get our cf pools available to come on and talk about it yeah yeah so we'll talk more about it then maybe i've already i have already uh suggested it to him and he has answered in the affirmative all right so we'll do that sometime but for now yeah the introductory chapter is out just to give you a little uh and the pre-launch page is up so you can click yeah and follow yeah i mean basically but yeah it's good good
uh in the monster game side yeah what we should do actually a bit closer time is probably get our cf pools available to come on and talk about it yeah yeah so we'll talk more about it then maybe i've already i have already uh suggested it to him and he has answered in the affirmative all right so we'll do that sometime but for now yeah the introductory chapter is out just to give you a little uh and the pre-launch page is up so you can click yeah and follow yeah i mean basically but yeah it's good good
It's shy of 7,500 backers, so a goodly amount.
It's shy of 7,500 backers, so a goodly amount.
I'd have to run the numbers, but it's definitely up there.
I'd have to run the numbers, but it's definitely up there.
Well, it was the one we needed to reprint first, so... Yes, which is like that.
Well, it was the one we needed to reprint first, so... Yes, which is like that.
Oh, nice. I like Monster of the Week.
Oh, nice. I like Monster of the Week.
Well, there we go, yeah. I don't have anything to add on that. It looks like it's exactly what you expect it and want it to be. It's very clear what it is and what you use. Nice. The case books for investigators look nice as well, the little notebooks.
Well, there we go, yeah. I don't have anything to add on that. It looks like it's exactly what you expect it and want it to be. It's very clear what it is and what you use. Nice. The case books for investigators look nice as well, the little notebooks.
That's how I've been talking about it already, in fairness.
That's how I've been talking about it already, in fairness.
That's all right. But then I think that's experience, isn't it? Because I think you two have been running... For me, it's a minute or two. Well, you two have been running games for so much longer, you've probably encountered...
That's all right. But then I think that's experience, isn't it? Because I think you two have been running... For me, it's a minute or two. Well, you two have been running games for so much longer, you've probably encountered...
interesting the only issue with that is if your players consume the same media that you do because i did i did that with a zombie campaign it was quite sad planned it and it was quite sandboxy and i've consumed a lot of zombie media because you know that's who i am as a person and a lot of things that i started to throw seeds in the person was like oh this one reminds me of this and i was like okay thanks
interesting the only issue with that is if your players consume the same media that you do because i did i did that with a zombie campaign it was quite sad planned it and it was quite sandboxy and i've consumed a lot of zombie media because you know that's who i am as a person and a lot of things that i started to throw seeds in the person was like oh this one reminds me of this and i was like okay thanks
And it just so happened we happen to have a big overlap in the media that we're consuming.
And it just so happened we happen to have a big overlap in the media that we're consuming.
Oh, that's really good. I like that.
Oh, that's really good. I like that.
Yeah, I think we did, and they did a playthrough as well. So you use all the dice and, yeah, I think we were worried about balance and things. We were like, maybe they'll be in water and there wasn't, but there was.
Yeah, I think we did, and they did a playthrough as well. So you use all the dice and, yeah, I think we were worried about balance and things. We were like, maybe they'll be in water and there wasn't, but there was.
When you explained it, I got on board with the metaphor. It made sense. I did need the context.
When you explained it, I got on board with the metaphor. It made sense. I did need the context.
It's like those toddler books you get that are waterproof.
It's like those toddler books you get that are waterproof.
sorry i feel we're getting off topic yeah so the dmg has loads of so whilst i'll segue in so those are some ideas for like advice for campaigns and it seems like the dmg is really going for it with advice for and structure for new gms would you agree yeah so so you asked about this earlier
sorry i feel we're getting off topic yeah so the dmg has loads of so whilst i'll segue in so those are some ideas for like advice for campaigns and it seems like the dmg is really going for it with advice for and structure for new gms would you agree yeah so so you asked about this earlier
Because the GM decides which dice you roll, which can be a D4 to a D12. And then, yeah, if you roll higher than the GM, you're successful.
Because the GM decides which dice you roll, which can be a D4 to a D12. And then, yeah, if you roll higher than the GM, you're successful.
What a great news podcast.
What a great news podcast.
In the first chapter, when this is preparing for it, does it include have a little cry?
In the first chapter, when this is preparing for it, does it include have a little cry?
Good.
Good.
Oh, cool. So I'm guessing like Matt Mercer's in that group.
Oh, cool. So I'm guessing like Matt Mercer's in that group.
I think this is really smart to put in there because I think this book is really done to welcome new people and it's not assuming that you know anything about it. And it's giving you enough information where you can jump in and not feel Like you're lost in the old boys club.
I think this is really smart to put in there because I think this book is really done to welcome new people and it's not assuming that you know anything about it. And it's giving you enough information where you can jump in and not feel Like you're lost in the old boys club.
Because I know sometimes jumping in to run games of D&D and when you join a community, if you don't know all the lore, you can feel really outstaffed with things.
Because I know sometimes jumping in to run games of D&D and when you join a community, if you don't know all the lore, you can feel really outstaffed with things.
I was hesitant to run things, so I don't want to bump into some lore that my players know about and do it wrong, as I know is an odd way to say, because in...
I was hesitant to run things, so I don't want to bump into some lore that my players know about and do it wrong, as I know is an odd way to say, because in...
Exactly that.
Exactly that.
Fair. But anyway, Russ.
Fair. But anyway, Russ.
No, I said that's why we're a team of people. No one person has all the knowledge. We have metaphors between us.
No, I said that's why we're a team of people. No one person has all the knowledge. We have metaphors between us.
So I think this is very much like a collector's edition, so it is going to be for all sorts of different people. And I also feel it's going to be a bit of a beer and pretzels vibe sort of game, because I think if you want a really crunchy, in-depth system, you're not going to get it from this. But it's very clear about what it is.
So I think this is very much like a collector's edition, so it is going to be for all sorts of different people. And I also feel it's going to be a bit of a beer and pretzels vibe sort of game, because I think if you want a really crunchy, in-depth system, you're not going to get it from this. But it's very clear about what it is.
Yeah, if it helps make games happen, let's do it.
Yeah, if it helps make games happen, let's do it.
And also, I think it's a really nice game for casual players that don't play tabletop RPGs, because... If people are fans of the Discworld and you say, hey, we're playing a Discworld game, this might be the right thing for them to jump in and give it a try.
And also, I think it's a really nice game for casual players that don't play tabletop RPGs, because... If people are fans of the Discworld and you say, hey, we're playing a Discworld game, this might be the right thing for them to jump in and give it a try.
And the dice rolls aren't complicated and they'll know the world and they'll probably just have fun sitting there getting to walk around the Discworld a bit. So that's where it sits in my mind.
And the dice rolls aren't complicated and they'll know the world and they'll probably just have fun sitting there getting to walk around the Discworld a bit. So that's where it sits in my mind.
That makes sense to me, because I don't ever feel, in my experience, that the DM drove when rest happens. It was like the party, like, oh, I feel like we really need a rest at this point, and they would do that in the narrative. The DM wouldn't be like, okay.
That makes sense to me, because I don't ever feel, in my experience, that the DM drove when rest happens. It was like the party, like, oh, I feel like we really need a rest at this point, and they would do that in the narrative. The DM wouldn't be like, okay.
I'm in both because generally the party has said, like, we'll get to a point and be like, I think we're kind of done for the day and done with things we want to do. And then as the GM, we can be like, yeah, it's early evening. So you could settle in and make a camp and get ready to rest for the evening and, you know, all that stuff. So you can react in that way.
I'm in both because generally the party has said, like, we'll get to a point and be like, I think we're kind of done for the day and done with things we want to do. And then as the GM, we can be like, yeah, it's early evening. So you could settle in and make a camp and get ready to rest for the evening and, you know, all that stuff. So you can react in that way.
obsession around the campfire absolutely for me the long rest and campfire things in a campaign is absolutely the time when people get to you know have that there's some situations where a long rest isn't appropriate either what if you're right in the middle of a dungeon If it's not a safe area to rest and set up camp, yeah.
obsession around the campfire absolutely for me the long rest and campfire things in a campaign is absolutely the time when people get to you know have that there's some situations where a long rest isn't appropriate either what if you're right in the middle of a dungeon If it's not a safe area to rest and set up camp, yeah.
Are you two picking up a copy of it?
Are you two picking up a copy of it?
You have? Oh. I don't think this one is one I'm going to get because I just don't know when I would run it. I think I'd like to play it. So if you're running a game, let me know.
You have? Oh. I don't think this one is one I'm going to get because I just don't know when I would run it. I think I'd like to play it. So if you're running a game, let me know.
An inn or your home or somewhere like that.
An inn or your home or somewhere like that.
Okay. So the adventuring day is done. Recommendations of six to eight encounters per day is gone. It's, yeah. Okay.
Okay. So the adventuring day is done. Recommendations of six to eight encounters per day is gone. It's, yeah. Okay.
yeah I think I would because like so many of the spells have changed it is 5.5 in my mind absolutely and everyone I speak to thinks that as well I just think not calling it that is going to cause confusion down the road for people bringing the wrong books and wrong versions of the rules to tables and especially with newer players
yeah I think I would because like so many of the spells have changed it is 5.5 in my mind absolutely and everyone I speak to thinks that as well I just think not calling it that is going to cause confusion down the road for people bringing the wrong books and wrong versions of the rules to tables and especially with newer players
Should we talk about Greyhawk then?
Should we talk about Greyhawk then?
Okay. Fair enough. Carry on.
Okay. Fair enough. Carry on.
What are those rules for us?
What are those rules for us?
I mean, you could.
I mean, you could.
Maybe that's why it's moved to the DMG, because it needs to be at the Dungeon Master's discretion. So a player can't just do whatever. They need to come to their DM and be like, look, I want to do this. And they're like, yeah, okay, we can do this. And it gives the DM a bit more control so that they don't do something too wild.
Maybe that's why it's moved to the DMG, because it needs to be at the Dungeon Master's discretion. So a player can't just do whatever. They need to come to their DM and be like, look, I want to do this. And they're like, yeah, okay, we can do this. And it gives the DM a bit more control so that they don't do something too wild.
And you get some dice.
And you get some dice.
Well, it's just something I'd read about and have opinions on things to talk about. So that's fair enough.
Well, it's just something I'd read about and have opinions on things to talk about. So that's fair enough.
I'm not specifically like, oh, I'm so excited for Greyhawk. But I just thought it was interesting because it's not been... It's not a setting that's had a lot of love from what I understand, like historically in D&D. Interestingly, I know that on the Dungeon Masters Guild, it's now unlocked as a setting. So third party creators can sell material set in the world of Greyhound.
I'm not specifically like, oh, I'm so excited for Greyhawk. But I just thought it was interesting because it's not been... It's not a setting that's had a lot of love from what I understand, like historically in D&D. Interestingly, I know that on the Dungeon Masters Guild, it's now unlocked as a setting. So third party creators can sell material set in the world of Greyhound.
Yeah, because it's in Great British Pound.
Yeah, because it's in Great British Pound.
So that's cool. So it opens up some options for third party publishers on there. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think it's only like 30. It's a 30 page chapter.
So that's cool. So it opens up some options for third party publishers on there. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I think it's only like 30. It's a 30 page chapter.
From what I understand, they've got the setting, but the idea is it's quite a generic setting so people can pick it up and fill stuff with it in many senses. I don't know a huge amount about it.
From what I understand, they've got the setting, but the idea is it's quite a generic setting so people can pick it up and fill stuff with it in many senses. I don't know a huge amount about it.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
James.
James.
See, I like settings like that that give you a vein thing, like a necromancer. Then you can fill in the details with your own.
See, I like settings like that that give you a vein thing, like a necromancer. Then you can fill in the details with your own.
It's not... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not...
It's not... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not...
Standard fantasy D&D.
Standard fantasy D&D.
It's not got its own unique flavour attached to it. It's just... It's a roast dinner of a D&D campaign. There's no extra seasonings involved.
It's not got its own unique flavour attached to it. It's just... It's a roast dinner of a D&D campaign. There's no extra seasonings involved.
Yeah. No, I don't know where it's being printed. I don't know how much shipping is because that can be a different question.
Yeah. No, I don't know where it's being printed. I don't know how much shipping is because that can be a different question.
Because it was the first one.
Because it was the first one.
Yeah. I guess it's like when you read early science fiction books, you're like, oh, I feel like I know this. But it's not because that is generic itself. It's because it was the first one and everything else has kind of springboarded off that.
Yeah. I guess it's like when you read early science fiction books, you're like, oh, I feel like I know this. But it's not because that is generic itself. It's because it was the first one and everything else has kind of springboarded off that.
Correct. Yes, thank you. I did not have that word. Thank you for providing this. This is why we're a team.
Correct. Yes, thank you. I did not have that word. Thank you for providing this. This is why we're a team.
I'm on the metaphor I know what you mean yes and this is exactly kind of what I want from a setting I don't want something really in detail that I have to do a lot of homework for this is like 30 pages for example does feel like I've got a lot of information I can get the vibe I can get what's going on but I can fill in the rest because I love filling things in on the fly in my games especially to my players because usually when my players ask me a question they're like what does this look like I'm like I don't know what do you see and I let them do it as well
I'm on the metaphor I know what you mean yes and this is exactly kind of what I want from a setting I don't want something really in detail that I have to do a lot of homework for this is like 30 pages for example does feel like I've got a lot of information I can get the vibe I can get what's going on but I can fill in the rest because I love filling things in on the fly in my games especially to my players because usually when my players ask me a question they're like what does this look like I'm like I don't know what do you see and I let them do it as well
like sharing or for all control absolutely yeah well it's because i'm lazy but they like them players seem to like it so it's good it gives them buy-in yeah yeah it gives them buy-in and i don't have to do anything everybody wins
like sharing or for all control absolutely yeah well it's because i'm lazy but they like them players seem to like it so it's good it gives them buy-in yeah yeah it gives them buy-in and i don't have to do anything everybody wins
Things that aren't D&D and don't have a license.
Things that aren't D&D and don't have a license.
Yeah. Yeah, so Greyhawk looks interesting to me because it's, like you say, generic D&D. So people are going to know what's what without having to do a lot of work. But yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, so Greyhawk looks interesting to me because it's, like you say, generic D&D. So people are going to know what's what without having to do a lot of work. But yeah.
Or maybe it's the Discworld's brand.
Or maybe it's the Discworld's brand.
You can watch other people's games on actual players.
You can watch other people's games on actual players.
I think that's why now safety tools are so important and session zeros, just because to make sure everyone's expectations are in the same place.
I think that's why now safety tools are so important and session zeros, just because to make sure everyone's expectations are in the same place.
To make sure everything's standardised across different... Yeah, I hadn't thought about it that way, because I've not really done Adventurous League stuff. I haven't thought about it in that sense.
To make sure everything's standardised across different... Yeah, I hadn't thought about it that way, because I've not really done Adventurous League stuff. I haven't thought about it in that sense.
hmm yeah very rude but yeah that's that it's the same idea but people very different takes on that yeah and i think most frustrations and games breaking down i see that i see online of people writing is usually because people have different expectations of things and they haven't explicitly said it that's like yeah it's like i was doing a because i was doing horror games this weekend i have a safety sheet
hmm yeah very rude but yeah that's that it's the same idea but people very different takes on that yeah and i think most frustrations and games breaking down i see that i see online of people writing is usually because people have different expectations of things and they haven't explicitly said it that's like yeah it's like i was doing a because i was doing horror games this weekend i have a safety sheet
i get people to opt in on the safety sheet in advance and it has a list of topics there's some weird stuff on there when you see that sheet out of context and somebody saw it and they're like what is this why would you have that in a game and i'm like i don't have it in the game as you can see in this one that's saying that's not topic we're doing but it warrants saying because if i don't explicitly say it someone might think that's okay to put in because for someone else that might not be a obviously that's not going to be included so okay yeah yeah
i get people to opt in on the safety sheet in advance and it has a list of topics there's some weird stuff on there when you see that sheet out of context and somebody saw it and they're like what is this why would you have that in a game and i'm like i don't have it in the game as you can see in this one that's saying that's not topic we're doing but it warrants saying because if i don't explicitly say it someone might think that's okay to put in because for someone else that might not be a obviously that's not going to be included so okay yeah yeah
Yeah, I'm not going to tell you what your motivations should be and what your goals should be and what you should want to do, but I will mechanically help you to achieve that. If you're like, oh, I wanted to do this thing, but I failed this role, you'd be like, oh, well, you could instead, blah, blah, blah. And then they can sometimes go, oh, yeah, I'll do that. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm not going to tell you what your motivations should be and what your goals should be and what you should want to do, but I will mechanically help you to achieve that. If you're like, oh, I wanted to do this thing, but I failed this role, you'd be like, oh, well, you could instead, blah, blah, blah. And then they can sometimes go, oh, yeah, I'll do that. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, no. Yeah, both of them are supposed to be different, but yeah. But yeah, interesting about Back to Greyhawk with, yeah, because we... Yeah, what else have we got?
Yeah, no. Yeah, both of them are supposed to be different, but yeah. But yeah, interesting about Back to Greyhawk with, yeah, because we... Yeah, what else have we got?
I'm just thinking, though, isn't a reverse J a capital L?
I'm just thinking, though, isn't a reverse J a capital L?
I'm sure we'll get more info about the... Yeah, we'll get more.
I'm sure we'll get more info about the... Yeah, we'll get more.
As the weeks roll on.
As the weeks roll on.
And then we'll actually have a copy.
And then we'll actually have a copy.
Depends what font you use, I guess.
Depends what font you use, I guess.
Well, you...
Well, you...
well there you go it feels like a good generic setting that doesn't have too much going on I don't if I were to run if I wanted to run a D&D campaign I don't think I'd do but if I did that would be the kind of setting I'd use because it's like you know this generic D&D fantasy setting that you're all familiar with it's kind of that I don't have to do a lot of homework and lore I'm not going to have a player on the table sit and go actually that can't be the case because back in 1602 I don't know something happened
well there you go it feels like a good generic setting that doesn't have too much going on I don't if I were to run if I wanted to run a D&D campaign I don't think I'd do but if I did that would be the kind of setting I'd use because it's like you know this generic D&D fantasy setting that you're all familiar with it's kind of that I don't have to do a lot of homework and lore I'm not going to have a player on the table sit and go actually that can't be the case because back in 1602 I don't know something happened
Comic Sans. Okay.
Comic Sans. Okay.
Well, that's all for this week, then. All right, then.
Well, that's all for this week, then. All right, then.
I'm recording this afterwards because I forgot to do my obligatory reason to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 on the podcast this week. So I'm just going to fix that. In the Dungeon Master's Guide, there is a piece of artwork at a ball and there is a picture of Minsc and Boo in that artwork. So that is my fun Baldur's Gate 3 fact of the week. Thank you.
I'm recording this afterwards because I forgot to do my obligatory reason to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 on the podcast this week. So I'm just going to fix that. In the Dungeon Master's Guide, there is a piece of artwork at a ball and there is a picture of Minsc and Boo in that artwork. So that is my fun Baldur's Gate 3 fact of the week. Thank you.
I really did. I really did. I'm like, I'm tired, but not tired enough to not be chaotic, which is perfect for a podcast host.
I really did. I really did. I'm like, I'm tired, but not tired enough to not be chaotic, which is perfect for a podcast host.
I say Vasen, but I don't know if I'm saying it wrong.
I say Vasen, but I don't know if I'm saying it wrong.
Okay.
Okay.
No, it's like a stone golem, do you mean?
No, it's like a stone golem, do you mean?
Yeah. Maybe it's in there.
Yeah. Maybe it's in there.
Gil and Crutes or Yeel and Crutes?
Gil and Crutes or Yeel and Crutes?
But Gyllenhaal is the westernised version, but it's meant to be Yeel and Helen, so I don't know if it's just like Yeel and Crutes.
But Gyllenhaal is the westernised version, but it's meant to be Yeel and Helen, so I don't know if it's just like Yeel and Crutes.
Where is it based? What part of the world?
Where is it based? What part of the world?
I mean, that would be the British way of pronouncing that word.
I mean, that would be the British way of pronouncing that word.
So let's just do the British thing and take something foreign and make it our own and interpret it through our lens. That's a very British thing to do.
So let's just do the British thing and take something foreign and make it our own and interpret it through our lens. That's a very British thing to do.
Oh, well, yeah, my writing skills are fantastic, as you know.
Oh, well, yeah, my writing skills are fantastic, as you know.
That game is on my list of things to run. I have a lot of books and things, so I'm probably not going to pick these up because I need to get through what I've got already. But I really like it because, I mean, having played it, I assume it feels a bit investigative with, like, it's not just, like, go kill the monster.
That game is on my list of things to run. I have a lot of books and things, so I'm probably not going to pick these up because I need to get through what I've got already. But I really like it because, I mean, having played it, I assume it feels a bit investigative with, like, it's not just, like, go kill the monster.
And I'm sure sometimes combat is one of the solutions, I'm sure. But it's not the only solution.
And I'm sure sometimes combat is one of the solutions, I'm sure. But it's not the only solution.
Pretty much. I like it. That feels interesting to run because I imagine sometimes players will do things that you didn't think as a solution. But you're like, yeah, that works. Yeah, let's do that. And I love it when tables do that because that's always a very cool thing.
Pretty much. I like it. That feels interesting to run because I imagine sometimes players will do things that you didn't think as a solution. But you're like, yeah, that works. Yeah, let's do that. And I love it when tables do that because that's always a very cool thing.
I mean, setting like it, original lore, ugh.
I mean, setting like it, original lore, ugh.
And that's my answer to your question.
And that's my answer to your question.
I have heard of this, yes.
I have heard of this, yes.
okay so this isn't like for inmates this is for people to come along and be in a spooky setting and play the game yes great cool because i wasn't sure because i know that ttrpgs are used by a lot of inmates in prison because it's i'm looking at this and you you have to meet at the pentridge prison tours ticket office so i'm guessing it's not an active i'm on board now now i'm understanding where we're going with this i'm here i've arrived thank you
okay so this isn't like for inmates this is for people to come along and be in a spooky setting and play the game yes great cool because i wasn't sure because i know that ttrpgs are used by a lot of inmates in prison because it's i'm looking at this and you you have to meet at the pentridge prison tours ticket office so i'm guessing it's not an active i'm on board now now i'm understanding where we're going with this i'm here i've arrived thank you
That's a lot different, yeah. And if that's in Australian dollars as well, because that's a lot... It is Australian. Yeah, so that's a lot less in US dollars or Great British Pounds.
That's a lot different, yeah. And if that's in Australian dollars as well, because that's a lot... It is Australian. Yeah, so that's a lot less in US dollars or Great British Pounds.
November, not October.
November, not October.
You've got a month.
You've got a month.
Don't care for while you're away.
Don't care for while you're away.
It is cool. I do like these events of RPGs in cool locations, because I do think it makes games accessible for some people, because if some people are like, I want to try this, but we don't have a GM, it's nice that there are events to book on. But it is a very luxury thing.
It is cool. I do like these events of RPGs in cool locations, because I do think it makes games accessible for some people, because if some people are like, I want to try this, but we don't have a GM, it's nice that there are events to book on. But it is a very luxury thing.
We've got the one, the only, it's... It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. I don't feel too much like a ray of sunshine today. I feel very tired by existence, but that is good to know. I am masking well.
We've got the one, the only, it's... It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. I don't feel too much like a ray of sunshine today. I feel very tired by existence, but that is good to know. I am masking well.
Well, I bet loads of people are like, oh, are you playing that Dungeons & Dragons event with Cthulhu? There'll be people that say that, because it's become a... People use the term tabletop RPG and Dungeons & Dragons interchangeably.
Well, I bet loads of people are like, oh, are you playing that Dungeons & Dragons event with Cthulhu? There'll be people that say that, because it's become a... People use the term tabletop RPG and Dungeons & Dragons interchangeably.
Well, I think there's a number of lawsuits in the US which are currently in progress where some of these companies are being sued by large authors or artists or... basically for plagiarism.
Well, I think there's a number of lawsuits in the US which are currently in progress where some of these companies are being sued by large authors or artists or... basically for plagiarism.
ai did not have permission to access all of these articles that we wrote and you're using it to replace us needed a court to yeah i think we need a court to come down and just say definitively what we already know but for court to say definitively and put in the legal precedent that ai is plagiarizing and a court to actually say that right because you know we we all know that but until a court says it it's not a it's not necessarily legally true does that make sense
ai did not have permission to access all of these articles that we wrote and you're using it to replace us needed a court to yeah i think we need a court to come down and just say definitively what we already know but for court to say definitively and put in the legal precedent that ai is plagiarizing and a court to actually say that right because you know we we all know that but until a court says it it's not a it's not necessarily legally true does that make sense
And I am equally impressed by how Jess did that in just one take.
And I am equally impressed by how Jess did that in just one take.
I think, yeah.
I think, yeah.
I kind of look to indie games for innovation. D&D is kind of... Yes. There's the safe kind of thing. But...
I kind of look to indie games for innovation. D&D is kind of... Yes. There's the safe kind of thing. But...
Yeah, because obviously it's already affecting artists.
Yeah, because obviously it's already affecting artists.
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
Greg Tito. Incidentally, last week we kept calling him Greg Tito. I think that was my mistake. I'd never heard his name said aloud. And I've never met him. But Greg Tito, apparently. We got a couple of emails about it.
Greg Tito. Incidentally, last week we kept calling him Greg Tito. I think that was my mistake. I'd never heard his name said aloud. And I've never met him. But Greg Tito, apparently. We got a couple of emails about it.
We were saying his name wrong. Greg Tito, who was communications director at Mrs. of the Coast until like a couple of weeks ago and left for that political career.
We were saying his name wrong. Greg Tito, who was communications director at Mrs. of the Coast until like a couple of weeks ago and left for that political career.
He has commented, he posted on Blue Sky, he says, because now obviously he no longer needs to be the voice of wizards and speak the party line, as it were. He says, and this is something he would never have said before he left, I'm deeply mistrustful of AI and I don't want people using it anywhere near my D&D campaigns. Which is an interesting thing to say.
He has commented, he posted on Blue Sky, he says, because now obviously he no longer needs to be the voice of wizards and speak the party line, as it were. He says, and this is something he would never have said before he left, I'm deeply mistrustful of AI and I don't want people using it anywhere near my D&D campaigns. Which is an interesting thing to say.
leftover concerns of ai and that sort of tech being used in the games so yeah yes and anyway anyway that's that's that anyway that's that topic um i guess it's just to keep an eye on and see what happens
leftover concerns of ai and that sort of tech being used in the games so yeah yes and anyway anyway that's that's that anyway that's that topic um i guess it's just to keep an eye on and see what happens
There's genuine ethical uses of AI. Yeah. But generative content creation is not one of those.
There's genuine ethical uses of AI. Yeah. But generative content creation is not one of those.
I would agree.
I would agree.
Yeah. Sadly, I think this is an issue that's going to be resolved on a much larger scale than the TTRPG industry. Oh, yeah. When it comes down to it.
Yeah. Sadly, I think this is an issue that's going to be resolved on a much larger scale than the TTRPG industry. Oh, yeah. When it comes down to it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be a global thing with big, big, big industries. Mm-hmm. And we'll just be writing the tale of that, you know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, when Hollywood starts putting out AI-made movies or something like that, you know, that's... I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's going to be a global thing with big, big, big industries. Mm-hmm. And we'll just be writing the tale of that, you know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, when Hollywood starts putting out AI-made movies or something like that, you know, that's... I don't know.
I wouldn't say confused. It's a strong term.
I wouldn't say confused. It's a strong term.
That's not a feature I want. Put it that way.
That's not a feature I want. Put it that way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It wouldn't surprise me because, you know, Baldur's Gate 3 was big and they apparently own the characters. Yeah. Larian don't. Wizards do. So there's no reason not to, is there? You know, it's a big, big popular franchise. Yes. Might as well use it, I guess.
It wouldn't surprise me because, you know, Baldur's Gate 3 was big and they apparently own the characters. Yeah. Larian don't. Wizards do. So there's no reason not to, is there? You know, it's a big, big popular franchise. Yes. Might as well use it, I guess.
I still might get to play this game.
I still might get to play this game.
Okie dokie. Right, well, before we get onto that, shall we have a look at some of this week's RPG news?
Okie dokie. Right, well, before we get onto that, shall we have a look at some of this week's RPG news?
Come on. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Come on. Fair enough. Fair enough.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I don't know what to say to that.
I don't know what to say to that.
Is he an actual vampire in Baldur's Gate then?
Is he an actual vampire in Baldur's Gate then?
I'm right, okay. Yeah. Okay. As you know, I'm very, very familiar with Baldur's Gate 3 and know all the details about it. I'm just pretending not to for the sake of the audience.
I'm right, okay. Yeah. Okay. As you know, I'm very, very familiar with Baldur's Gate 3 and know all the details about it. I'm just pretending not to for the sake of the audience.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to stick around with a sort of circle around D&D for a bit because there is some non-D&D news.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'm going to stick around with a sort of circle around D&D for a bit because there is some non-D&D news.
Go on, then. I know what it is. I was about to say it, but you say it. Go on, you do it.
Go on, then. I know what it is. I was about to say it, but you say it. Go on, you do it.
It has been quite a week, actually. Where should we start? I don't even know where to start. There's so much that's happened this week. Okay, let's start with... If you're in a Canada, one of our calendars, Toronto specifically...
It has been quite a week, actually. Where should we start? I don't even know where to start. There's so much that's happened this week. Okay, let's start with... If you're in a Canada, one of our calendars, Toronto specifically...
Okie dokie. Yeah. So, Modiphius. You know they're making their Discworld RPG. I do now. We did talk about it a few weeks ago on the show when they announced it.
Okie dokie. Yeah. So, Modiphius. You know they're making their Discworld RPG. I do now. We did talk about it a few weeks ago on the show when they announced it.
Unknown. Possibly. Or maybe not. One of those two things.
Unknown. Possibly. Or maybe not. One of those two things.
Yes, they've announced the Kickstarter date. So that is going to be launching on October the 15th. Marvellous. What's also interesting is it's not using the 2D20 system, which Modiphius uses for pretty much everything.
Yes, they've announced the Kickstarter date. So that is going to be launching on October the 15th. Marvellous. What's also interesting is it's not using the 2D20 system, which Modiphius uses for pretty much everything.
They have now. Oh. It's going to be a new game system, a narrative-focused game system.
They have now. Oh. It's going to be a new game system, a narrative-focused game system.
Hmm. Other than that, I can't tell you much. Okay. I mean, it's the 40th anniversary of The Colour of Magic, which was the first Discworld book.
Hmm. Other than that, I can't tell you much. Okay. I mean, it's the 40th anniversary of The Colour of Magic, which was the first Discworld book.
So I guess that's kind of the timing. I'm interested. I haven't read a Discworld book in ages, but I did enjoy them a lot years ago when I read them as a kid.
So I guess that's kind of the timing. I'm interested. I haven't read a Discworld book in ages, but I did enjoy them a lot years ago when I read them as a kid.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I am not either. There is a Dungeons & Dragons themed touring experience starting soon.
I am not either. There is a Dungeons & Dragons themed touring experience starting soon.
Yeah, yeah. I wonder how similar, because there was the Monty Python RPG that came out, it was kickstarted a couple of years ago and then came out, what, last year? I don't know, I can't remember.
Yeah, yeah. I wonder how similar, because there was the Monty Python RPG that came out, it was kickstarted a couple of years ago and then came out, what, last year? I don't know, I can't remember.
Yeah, but games which are basically based on sort of like surrealism and silliness and humour. So I wonder how similar to that it is in terms of...
Yeah, but games which are basically based on sort of like surrealism and silliness and humour. So I wonder how similar to that it is in terms of...
Yeah. I always kind of worry with that sort of thing that because, like...
Yeah. I always kind of worry with that sort of thing that because, like...
Monty Python and Discord and stuff are so funny and so good and basically you know Discord was basically written by you know a genius who is clearly far far funnier than I could ever be and cleverer than I could ever be I kind of worry that sort of like trying to run such a game could you really capture the voice and the tone of it because that sounds like a difficult thing to do I'd be worried about it yeah
Monty Python and Discord and stuff are so funny and so good and basically you know Discord was basically written by you know a genius who is clearly far far funnier than I could ever be and cleverer than I could ever be I kind of worry that sort of like trying to run such a game could you really capture the voice and the tone of it because that sounds like a difficult thing to do I'd be worried about it yeah
I'm not 100% sure what it is. So it was announced by Hasbro. Okay. And the details are scarce. It's called The Immersive Quest, a D&D experience.
I'm not 100% sure what it is. So it was announced by Hasbro. Okay. And the details are scarce. It's called The Immersive Quest, a D&D experience.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I suppose when it comes to support material and stuff like that, if all the humour is ingrained in the actual adventures and stuff, that helps, doesn't it? It gives you tools to use. Yeah, and the way things are described and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I suppose when it comes to support material and stuff like that, if all the humour is ingrained in the actual adventures and stuff, that helps, doesn't it? It gives you tools to use. Yeah, and the way things are described and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, yes, some of them play it completely straight, don't they? Yes. Yeah.
Well, yes, some of them play it completely straight, don't they? Yes. Yeah.
No, I am too. I am very intrigued.
No, I am too. I am very intrigued.
Yeah. So do you remember the basic roleplay design challenge?
Yeah. So do you remember the basic roleplay design challenge?
Launched that and there was $10,000 in prizes. A lot of money. Basically, a bunch of finalists would get $500 each and the top three will get like $2,000.
Launched that and there was $10,000 in prizes. A lot of money. Basically, a bunch of finalists would get $500 each and the top three will get like $2,000.
Something like that. And one of the cool things about it was, Chaosium weren't trying to claim the rights to any of this. They were basically saying, just kind of like kickstart, I guess, a creative community.
Something like that. And one of the cool things about it was, Chaosium weren't trying to claim the rights to any of this. They were basically saying, just kind of like kickstart, I guess, a creative community.
Incentivize a creative community. So they're basically saying, you make this stuff, it's still yours and you can set it. We don't want any of it, but we're going to try and incentivize that by having a little competition and the best ones will just give you... A prize.
Incentivize a creative community. So they're basically saying, you make this stuff, it's still yours and you can set it. We don't want any of it, but we're going to try and incentivize that by having a little competition and the best ones will just give you... A prize.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's a clever idea.
I think it's a clever idea.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're not trying to claim ownership of these things. They're not saying they're going to publish these things. They're just saying this is the stuff that you would do normally using our licences, but you can enter this competition and, you know... It just fuels the sort of creator base, I guess.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're not trying to claim ownership of these things. They're not saying they're going to publish these things. They're just saying this is the stuff that you would do normally using our licences, but you can enter this competition and, you know... It just fuels the sort of creator base, I guess.
It's launching in Toronto. It's been announced by Hasbro, but at the moment, I mean, I couldn't find any details about it or anywhere where I could...
It's launching in Toronto. It's been announced by Hasbro, but at the moment, I mean, I couldn't find any details about it or anywhere where I could...
In a way.
In a way.
Yeah, I'm seeing historical, sci-fi. I'm seeing intrigue.
Yeah, I'm seeing historical, sci-fi. I'm seeing intrigue.
Yeah. Well, this is now open to a public vote because there were, I think, nearly 200 entries and they had a panel of judges which selected the top 10. And then so those top 10 are now getting that $500, I think. And then it's the public vote now to find out who the top three are who will get the $2,000.
Yeah. Well, this is now open to a public vote because there were, I think, nearly 200 entries and they had a panel of judges which selected the top 10. And then so those top 10 are now getting that $500, I think. And then it's the public vote now to find out who the top three are who will get the $2,000.
buy tickets not that I was going to buy tickets but anywhere that I you can buy tickets so I guess more information is coming soon but what what we did find was they did one based on Minecraft a while back and I'm wondering if it's going to be similar to that what was the Minecraft one is it like at a venue and you it's like a walk around and there's activities or yeah so you you it takes about an hour
buy tickets not that I was going to buy tickets but anywhere that I you can buy tickets so I guess more information is coming soon but what what we did find was they did one based on Minecraft a while back and I'm wondering if it's going to be similar to that what was the Minecraft one is it like at a venue and you it's like a walk around and there's activities or yeah so you you it takes about an hour
Yeah. But I think it's such a cool thing to do. I think it's a really, really cool thing to do.
Yeah. But I think it's such a cool thing to do. I think it's a really, really cool thing to do.
I agree entirely.
I agree entirely.
Fair enough. I haven't voted yet. I will do after the show, I think. I'll read through them all and then I'll vote then.
Fair enough. I haven't voted yet. I will do after the show, I think. I'll read through them all and then I'll vote then.
Okie dokie. Right, more news, more news, more news. We got some Expanse miniatures. We got a miniature of the new D&D Black Dragon. We've got some WizKids life-size replicas of dragon eggs and Displacer kittens and things.
Okie dokie. Right, more news, more news, more news. We got some Expanse miniatures. We got a miniature of the new D&D Black Dragon. We've got some WizKids life-size replicas of dragon eggs and Displacer kittens and things.
...is the spaceships. Because I like a spaceship.
...is the spaceships. Because I like a spaceship.
So these are from Green Running...
So these are from Green Running...
Because they make The Expanse, actually. And it's a new miniature line of spaceships. And so it's going to be two box sets of their hard plastic miniatures. One is the spaceship crew and one is ships of The Expanse. So there's characters and ships, two of them. 28mm scale. Can't wait. I'm going to check that out because I just like toy spaceships.
Because they make The Expanse, actually. And it's a new miniature line of spaceships. And so it's going to be two box sets of their hard plastic miniatures. One is the spaceship crew and one is ships of The Expanse. So there's characters and ships, two of them. 28mm scale. Can't wait. I'm going to check that out because I just like toy spaceships.
Well, it took about an hour and you explore this sort of Minecraft world and there was this interactive scavenger hunt thing that you could do. So I guess something like that. I don't know.
Well, it took about an hour and you explore this sort of Minecraft world and there was this interactive scavenger hunt thing that you could do. So I guess something like that. I don't know.
Even though I've never played The Expanse, I will still probably get it just for the toy spaceships.
Even though I've never played The Expanse, I will still probably get it just for the toy spaceships.
Exactly, yeah.
Exactly, yeah.
Well, that's going to hit Battle Kit in another day, actually. I'm trying to look for the date, but there is nearly 4,000 people queued up on waiting for that, though.
Well, that's going to hit Battle Kit in another day, actually. I'm trying to look for the date, but there is nearly 4,000 people queued up on waiting for that, though.
Oh, wow. I think this is going to do really well for them. I think so, as well. Well, miniatures always do, though, don't they? Miniatures are...
Oh, wow. I think this is going to do really well for them. I think so, as well. Well, miniatures always do, though, don't they? Miniatures are...
People want minis.
People want minis.
Miniatures Kickstarters always do really well. But I don't know about tokens and standees and stuff, but miniatures ones definitely always do really well. People just love minis.
Miniatures Kickstarters always do really well. But I don't know about tokens and standees and stuff, but miniatures ones definitely always do really well. People just love minis.
I mean, my philosophy on minis, though, is always that I'll never paint them. Same.
I mean, my philosophy on minis, though, is always that I'll never paint them. Same.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have no desire to. I have no skill in doing so. Don't have the fine motor skills for it.
I have no desire to. I have no skill in doing so. Don't have the fine motor skills for it.
So, yeah. So, generally, I only buy pre-painted minis anyway. So, I guess that kind of walks me out for this, probably. Sadly.
So, yeah. So, generally, I only buy pre-painted minis anyway. So, I guess that kind of walks me out for this, probably. Sadly.
Unless I just said all the spaceships are grey. Spaceships can be grey, can't they?
Unless I just said all the spaceships are grey. Spaceships can be grey, can't they?
Yeah, they're grey. Actually, I have painted them. I've painted them metal colour.
Yeah, they're grey. Actually, I have painted them. I've painted them metal colour.
I mean, you could.
I mean, you could.
That is literally as close to painting minis as I would ever get.
That is literally as close to painting minis as I would ever get.
You know when you go to some of the large conventions and you'll see there'll be a stand there with like 100 people sitting there painting minis?
You know when you go to some of the large conventions and you'll see there'll be a stand there with like 100 people sitting there painting minis?
As a recreational thing.
As a recreational thing.
Yeah, I haven't even done that.
Yeah, I haven't even done that.
I think I find it stressful and frustrating.
I think I find it stressful and frustrating.
We've only got a couple of bits left now. We're nearing the end of the news. We've got Critical Role's full programming slate, and we've got the Electric State RPG. Which one of those do you like the sound of most?
We've only got a couple of bits left now. We're nearing the end of the news. We've got Critical Role's full programming slate, and we've got the Electric State RPG. Which one of those do you like the sound of most?
Okay, I will tell you what Critical Role is up to. So you know they had to announce their Beacon streaming service a while back?
Okay, I will tell you what Critical Role is up to. So you know they had to announce their Beacon streaming service a while back?
So they're having their own streamer and they're going to be putting their content on that.
So they're having their own streamer and they're going to be putting their content on that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, I wanted to do that. It was really good fun. My brother told me about it. We didn't get around to doing it. Oh, that sounds so much fun.
Oh, I wanted to do that. It was really good fun. My brother told me about it. We didn't get around to doing it. Oh, that sounds so much fun.
Well, they've kind of announced what's going to be coming on that later this year, 2024. So there's going to be the Re-Slayers Take, the second season of that, which is a family-friendly series set in Exandria, which is the Critical Role Universe world setting. And that includes a bunch of actors, including Billy Boyd from Lord of the Rings, one of the Hobbits.
Well, they've kind of announced what's going to be coming on that later this year, 2024. So there's going to be the Re-Slayers Take, the second season of that, which is a family-friendly series set in Exandria, which is the Critical Role Universe world setting. And that includes a bunch of actors, including Billy Boyd from Lord of the Rings, one of the Hobbits.
I'm related to a hobbit.
I'm related to a hobbit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, the other hobbit, Dominic Monaghan. The other hobbit. I am related to because, well, sort of, not by blood, but my brother's... That's what related means. He's the cousin of my brother's wife.
Well, the other hobbit, Dominic Monaghan. The other hobbit. I am related to because, well, sort of, not by blood, but my brother's... That's what related means. He's the cousin of my brother's wife.
Am I related or not?
Am I related or not?
A cousin-in-law. Is that a thing? A cousin-in-law.
A cousin-in-law. Is that a thing? A cousin-in-law.
I mean, I've never met him or spoken to him, but I have seen him at a wedding.
I mean, I've never met him or spoken to him, but I have seen him at a wedding.
Okay, that's all right.
Okay, that's all right.
You run in the same circles. I've been in the same room at a wedding.
You run in the same circles. I've been in the same room at a wedding.
That's my claim to fame, I guess.
That's my claim to fame, I guess.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you know what? This wedding was over 10 years ago.
Do you know what? This wedding was over 10 years ago.
That is what I'm saying.
That is what I'm saying.
This has been in the works for a while. But anyway, okay, yeah. So yeah, that's happening. Billy Boyd is in this thing. Anyway, so. Billy Boyd, who is not Dominic Manahan, he's a different Hobbit. But a Hobbit nevertheless. So there is a guest star. I don't think it's a regular. But also we have the third season of Tales from the Stinky Dragon.
This has been in the works for a while. But anyway, okay, yeah. So yeah, that's happening. Billy Boyd is in this thing. Anyway, so. Billy Boyd, who is not Dominic Manahan, he's a different Hobbit. But a Hobbit nevertheless. So there is a guest star. I don't think it's a regular. But also we have the third season of Tales from the Stinky Dragon.
Which is a family-friendly one. It's an independent show. I don't think it's made by Critical Role, but it's joining the Beacon streaming service.
Which is a family-friendly one. It's an independent show. I don't think it's made by Critical Role, but it's joining the Beacon streaming service.
RPG tables like being retold and animated and it feels very relatable to a silly D&D table that you've had yeah well so they've also got so the Legend of Vox Machina which is on Amazon am I right Amazon? Amazon.
RPG tables like being retold and animated and it feels very relatable to a silly D&D table that you've had yeah well so they've also got so the Legend of Vox Machina which is on Amazon am I right Amazon? Amazon.
The Critical Role cartoon. Amazon, isn't it? Yes. Has a companion show called Insight Editions, and that is going to be launched on Beacon. So you can watch the show on Amazon, and then you can go over to Beacon, presumably, and watch Insight Editions, where I guess they talk about it. They sit around in a studio and talk about it, I guess.
The Critical Role cartoon. Amazon, isn't it? Yes. Has a companion show called Insight Editions, and that is going to be launched on Beacon. So you can watch the show on Amazon, and then you can go over to Beacon, presumably, and watch Insight Editions, where I guess they talk about it. They sit around in a studio and talk about it, I guess.
But, you know, these things happen, you know. I mean, it's got to be better than that Willy Wonka one. That's true.
But, you know, these things happen, you know. I mean, it's got to be better than that Willy Wonka one. That's true.
Yeah. I mean, there's only two episodes, each covering half the season. It's not like one episode for each episode. So only two episodes, but that's the thing. And then they're going to be having a bunch of fireside chats with Travis Willingham and Ashley Johnson, announced for September and October, and presumably others later.
Yeah. I mean, there's only two episodes, each covering half the season. It's not like one episode for each episode. So only two episodes, but that's the thing. And then they're going to be having a bunch of fireside chats with Travis Willingham and Ashley Johnson, announced for September and October, and presumably others later.
Oh, yes. The Daggerheart Critmas Story Live Show. It's going to be on December 7th in Camden, New Jersey. And that is going to feature the final version of their Daggerheart RPG.
Oh, yes. The Daggerheart Critmas Story Live Show. It's going to be on December 7th in Camden, New Jersey. And that is going to feature the final version of their Daggerheart RPG.
I think some of the root of that is a lot of Critical Role fans kind of know D&D very well, or are mainly familiar with D&D, and where Daggerheart kind of differs from D&D, maybe that doesn't sit super comfortably with the brand that they kind of... I don't know.
I think some of the root of that is a lot of Critical Role fans kind of know D&D very well, or are mainly familiar with D&D, and where Daggerheart kind of differs from D&D, maybe that doesn't sit super comfortably with the brand that they kind of... I don't know.
I think that's possibly why, though, because that's so different from D&D, whereas Daggerheart has more overlap with D&D, doesn't it?
I think that's possibly why, though, because that's so different from D&D, whereas Daggerheart has more overlap with D&D, doesn't it?
Well... So I think some people were kind of thinking that Daggerheart was going to be Critical Role's version of D&D, and that's not what it is.
Well... So I think some people were kind of thinking that Daggerheart was going to be Critical Role's version of D&D, and that's not what it is.
Very unofficial, I believe. I think so.
Very unofficial, I believe. I think so.
That's not... Yeah, yeah. No. I mean, I don't know. I can't speak for other people.
That's not... Yeah, yeah. No. I mean, I don't know. I can't speak for other people.
I'm just guessing.
I'm just guessing.
I guess so. I guess so. Right, what else have we got? We've got Electric State.
I guess so. I guess so. Right, what else have we got? We've got Electric State.
So this is from Free League. And this is, you know, Tales from the Loop was based on the art of, what's his name? Simon Stalaharg? I don't know how you say the name.
So this is from Free League. And this is, you know, Tales from the Loop was based on the art of, what's his name? Simon Stalaharg? I don't know how you say the name.
Almost certainly.
Almost certainly.
Almost certainly. Well, they definitely told us that I was saying Quick Tito's name wrong.
Almost certainly. Well, they definitely told us that I was saying Quick Tito's name wrong.
Thank you to those people that did let me know. Several people that let me know. Thank you very much for doing so. But anyway, so The Electric State is another of his narrative art books. Separate to Tales from the Loop. And it kind of featured kind of like America, Southwestern USA in the 90s. And it's kind of ruined and post-apocalyptic.
Thank you to those people that did let me know. Several people that let me know. Thank you very much for doing so. But anyway, so The Electric State is another of his narrative art books. Separate to Tales from the Loop. And it kind of featured kind of like America, Southwestern USA in the 90s. And it's kind of ruined and post-apocalyptic.
I didn't go. You'll be surprised.
I didn't go. You'll be surprised.
And there's all these sort of giant robots with cute heads and things wandering around.
And there's all these sort of giant robots with cute heads and things wandering around.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
No, that's what it's based on.
No, that's what it's based on.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry, I got confused. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yes, the Electric State RPG is coming out on October 1st.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry, I got confused. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yes, the Electric State RPG is coming out on October 1st.
Because that hit Kickstarter like last year or something.
Because that hit Kickstarter like last year or something.
Made like 400 grand or something. I can't remember what. Casually.
Made like 400 grand or something. I can't remember what. Casually.
Free League always do really, really well, don't they? They've got a big and loyal fan base and their stuff is gorgeous. Yeah.
Free League always do really, really well, don't they? They've got a big and loyal fan base and their stuff is gorgeous. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I think that's probably for the best, to be honest.
Yeah, yeah. I think that's probably for the best, to be honest.
Well, as of October 1st, yeah. Okay. A couple of months, yeah. But it's coming.
Well, as of October 1st, yeah. Okay. A couple of months, yeah. But it's coming.
And it's not the thing I was doing. I was counting the game.
And it's not the thing I was doing. I was counting the game.
Oh, I'm exhausted now.
Oh, I'm exhausted now.
Are we done? Is there any more?
Are we done? Is there any more?
All right. Tell me Pathfinder.
All right. Tell me Pathfinder.
Sure, if you like.
Sure, if you like.
They harvest blood action that allows them to refresh temporary hit points. Sounds like a vampire.
They harvest blood action that allows them to refresh temporary hit points. Sounds like a vampire.
Does that make you a vampire? Or do you literally have to drink it?
Does that make you a vampire? Or do you literally have to drink it?
Yeah. Okay. What's interesting, the Inquisitor renaming it to the Vindicator.
Yeah. Okay. What's interesting, the Inquisitor renaming it to the Vindicator.
Because of the real world... The evil ones. Well, they wanted to get... Well, the evil ones are still called inquisitors, but the good ones are called vindicators.
Because of the real world... The evil ones. Well, they wanted to get... Well, the evil ones are still called inquisitors, but the good ones are called vindicators.
Yeah, yeah. But they're keeping it for the baddies, so...
Yeah, yeah. But they're keeping it for the baddies, so...
Because they're baddies, basically, yeah.
Because they're baddies, basically, yeah.
Oh, yes. I'd forgotten about that. Yes, I saw that.
Oh, yes. I'd forgotten about that. Yes, I saw that.
It looks like that, or it looks like Project Sigil.
It looks like that, or it looks like Project Sigil.
If you look in the trailer, they're moved like minis as well. And they're not animated. It's sort of like you say, this one's doing a fireball and there might be a spell effect animation, but it's not like they run across there.
If you look in the trailer, they're moved like minis as well. And they're not animated. It's sort of like you say, this one's doing a fireball and there might be a spell effect animation, but it's not like they run across there.
Yeah, I was quite interested in that.
Yeah, I was quite interested in that.
It looks a lot like Project Sigil, just visually, the way it seems to. Obviously, it's a video game and Project Sigil is a virtual tabletop, so they're different things. But just visually, when you look at it, they look similar.
It looks a lot like Project Sigil, just visually, the way it seems to. Obviously, it's a video game and Project Sigil is a virtual tabletop, so they're different things. But just visually, when you look at it, they look similar.
Like similar things.
Like similar things.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now we've got to be done. We've got to be done now. There can't be any more news.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now we've got to be done. We've got to be done now. There can't be any more news.
In the entire world, nothing else has happened, I'm sure.
In the entire world, nothing else has happened, I'm sure.
Oh, we did something.
Oh, we did something.
We did something. Yes, we did. Do you not remember doing something?
We did something. Yes, we did. Do you not remember doing something?
Bundle of Holding.
Bundle of Holding.
We have got two bundles over on Bundle of Holding. They are both Level Up Advanced 5th Edition bundles.
We have got two bundles over on Bundle of Holding. They are both Level Up Advanced 5th Edition bundles.
And one of them is a Core Rulebooks bundle.
And one of them is a Core Rulebooks bundle.
And one of them is called Level Up Adventures, and it contains the starter set and some of our adventures, adventure material.
And one of them is called Level Up Adventures, and it contains the starter set and some of our adventures, adventure material.
Yeah, yeah. And they're, you know, basically, they're a really good deal. It's about $130 worth of books, digital PDF books, for about $30. Yeah. That's a really good deal. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And they're, you know, basically, they're a really good deal. It's about $130 worth of books, digital PDF books, for about $30. Yeah. That's a really good deal. Yeah.
Right, now we've got to be done. That's got to be it now.
Right, now we've got to be done. That's got to be it now.
Okay.
Okay.
So they do get that. Oh, they have? Okay. What I understand is the way it's processed is you're not charged for the physical book until it ships. Right. So when they pre-ordered it originally, they were charged for the digital half of the bundle. And then partly because of the way PayPal works or something, it has a sort of session token which expires.
So they do get that. Oh, they have? Okay. What I understand is the way it's processed is you're not charged for the physical book until it ships. Right. So when they pre-ordered it originally, they were charged for the digital half of the bundle. And then partly because of the way PayPal works or something, it has a sort of session token which expires.
That's a Venn diagram of talent.
That's a Venn diagram of talent.
Are you the only person in the center of that, or is there anyone else? No.
Are you the only person in the center of that, or is there anyone else? No.
And did you blend the romance into your actual game sessions as well? I mean, is that a common theme in your games?
And did you blend the romance into your actual game sessions as well? I mean, is that a common theme in your games?
And then when it came to like three weeks later, and then Wizards went to try and charge for the physical half, that had expired. And therefore the payments failed, as I understand it, and I'm not 100% sure that's 100% accurate, but it's something like that, I think.
And then when it came to like three weeks later, and then Wizards went to try and charge for the physical half, that had expired. And therefore the payments failed, as I understand it, and I'm not 100% sure that's 100% accurate, but it's something like that, I think.
So whenever I... I think I'm one of those people. I mean, I'm not saying that I would refuse to try, given the right situation and people. But it's certainly not something that's ever really been part of my experience.
So whenever I... I think I'm one of those people. I mean, I'm not saying that I would refuse to try, given the right situation and people. But it's certainly not something that's ever really been part of my experience.
Or might not even know, I guess.
Or might not even know, I guess.
When you describe that scale of it, and you mentioned that it could just be an NPC doing something like that. So when you put that perspective on it, then I guess, yes, I have experienced that in my games then. That's just, that's not what I was thinking of when we said romance. But yes, certainly on that scale, then I have interacted.
When you describe that scale of it, and you mentioned that it could just be an NPC doing something like that. So when you put that perspective on it, then I guess, yes, I have experienced that in my games then. That's just, that's not what I was thinking of when we said romance. But yes, certainly on that scale, then I have interacted.
But I think in my experience, it's always been played for laughs.
But I think in my experience, it's always been played for laughs.
Yeah, it's a city. So, I mean, I don't know, maybe that's just a gateway?
Yeah, it's a city. So, I mean, I don't know, maybe that's just a gateway?
As far as I can make out, yeah. Oh, fair enough.
As far as I can make out, yeah. Oh, fair enough.
It sounds like it's going to work out all right, I guess.
It sounds like it's going to work out all right, I guess.
Yeah. I suppose there's a danger. I suppose it depends on the group and the people involved. And especially maybe if you had, like, maybe a group of... you know, younger males involved that it could get, you know, kind of juvenile and stuff like that. I mean, is that, is that sort of like ways to approach it to try and avoid falling into that trap?
Yeah. I suppose there's a danger. I suppose it depends on the group and the people involved. And especially maybe if you had, like, maybe a group of... you know, younger males involved that it could get, you know, kind of juvenile and stuff like that. I mean, is that, is that sort of like ways to approach it to try and avoid falling into that trap?
I wouldn't like that at all.
I wouldn't like that at all.
I would love that. I've had a lot of real breakups in my life. I don't want to add fake ones to it.
I would love that. I've had a lot of real breakups in my life. I don't want to add fake ones to it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
If you're not expecting it to go out in two parts, though, so you make your payment and say it came... I don't know how much it came to. Say it came to $60 or something or whatever it was. I don't know what it was. And they take $30 and then three weeks later take the other $30. I can sort of see how people... might get caught out by that because they'd assume it had been paid.
If you're not expecting it to go out in two parts, though, so you make your payment and say it came... I don't know how much it came to. Say it came to $60 or something or whatever it was. I don't know what it was. And they take $30 and then three weeks later take the other $30. I can sort of see how people... might get caught out by that because they'd assume it had been paid.
Mm-hmm. I think for me there would be quite a strong element of self-consciousness as well in such. I mean, I think I would feel very self-conscious and awkward and silly doing that just because of who I am and what I'm like. It's not necessarily things that can't be overcome. I don't know. I don't know.
Mm-hmm. I think for me there would be quite a strong element of self-consciousness as well in such. I mean, I think I would feel very self-conscious and awkward and silly doing that just because of who I am and what I'm like. It's not necessarily things that can't be overcome. I don't know. I don't know.
If you didn't pay too much attention. And so they wouldn't assume they'd have to leave $30 in their PayPal account ready for the second half. I don't know. Maybe.
If you didn't pay too much attention. And so they wouldn't assume they'd have to leave $30 in their PayPal account ready for the second half. I don't know. Maybe.
Always, always, always go Joey Tribbiani in Friends. How are you doing? How are you doing? There we go.
Always, always, always go Joey Tribbiani in Friends. How are you doing? How are you doing? There we go.
Yeah. I think also, I mean, we've touched on consent and things like that. And we're all, I'm sure, aware of examples of actual pay, live streams and things like that, or reports from conventions where that has... been done wrong. Yeah. Sometimes with, you know, catastrophic consequences. I mean, I don't want to bring up any names, but... Yeah. I mean, we know that can happen.
Yeah. I think also, I mean, we've touched on consent and things like that. And we're all, I'm sure, aware of examples of actual pay, live streams and things like that, or reports from conventions where that has... been done wrong. Yeah. Sometimes with, you know, catastrophic consequences. I mean, I don't want to bring up any names, but... Yeah. I mean, we know that can happen.
So, and you mentioned it as an analogy to horror.
So, and you mentioned it as an analogy to horror.
earlier, Jess, and I totally get what you mean.
earlier, Jess, and I totally get what you mean.
But the issue of consent is there, though, in exactly the same way. And so... I think with something like this... Mm-hmm. It's kind of a little less clear-cut than horror because it can develop and change.
But the issue of consent is there, though, in exactly the same way. And so... I think with something like this... Mm-hmm. It's kind of a little less clear-cut than horror because it can develop and change.
More than... You could sort of say, no, I don't want cannibalism, and therefore you just don't have cannibalism. Yeah. But a social interaction develops and changes...
More than... You could sort of say, no, I don't want cannibalism, and therefore you just don't have cannibalism. Yeah. But a social interaction develops and changes...
And that's why those safety tools are so... It's harder to prep for, isn't it, I guess.
And that's why those safety tools are so... It's harder to prep for, isn't it, I guess.
Yeah, you need the ability to change.
Yeah, you need the ability to change.
Yeah, that's just struck me. So the code word basically is so that someone can use a code word without having to sort of feel like they have to stand up and go, no, I don't want this and make a spectacle or feel like a spoiled sport or any of the many different sort of social peer pressure type things that might happen so that the other people aren't aware particularly.
Yeah, that's just struck me. So the code word basically is so that someone can use a code word without having to sort of feel like they have to stand up and go, no, I don't want this and make a spectacle or feel like a spoiled sport or any of the many different sort of social peer pressure type things that might happen so that the other people aren't aware particularly.
But if everybody has a code word, a different one, and the GM knows what those code words are, That sounds like it would be, I'm sure, I'm not inventing this, obviously, but I'm sure someone's done this before. But that sounds like a way that you could certainly handle like things changing in game without having to force people to, you know, stand up and make a scene and, you know.
But if everybody has a code word, a different one, and the GM knows what those code words are, That sounds like it would be, I'm sure, I'm not inventing this, obviously, but I'm sure someone's done this before. But that sounds like a way that you could certainly handle like things changing in game without having to force people to, you know, stand up and make a scene and, you know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, especially if your credit card has expired in that time and you've got a new one or something. Yeah, because that's happened to me before.
Yeah, especially if your credit card has expired in that time and you've got a new one or something. Yeah, because that's happened to me before.
Yes, you don't have to necessarily do it in public when it's online.
Yes, you don't have to necessarily do it in public when it's online.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a really interesting topic. And, you know, just because I've never encountered it in my gaming doesn't mean I'd be opposed to it. But I think it really would have to be the right people and in the right situation. I certainly wouldn't do it at a convention. I wouldn't do it with people I don't know, I don't think. Yeah. And probably I would tend towards the humour with it.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a really interesting topic. And, you know, just because I've never encountered it in my gaming doesn't mean I'd be opposed to it. But I think it really would have to be the right people and in the right situation. I certainly wouldn't do it at a convention. I wouldn't do it with people I don't know, I don't think. Yeah. And probably I would tend towards the humour with it.
I think. But that's possibly just a coping thing. I don't know.
I think. But that's possibly just a coping thing. I don't know.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it's going to turn out to be a major issue. I mean, you've got an obvious contingent of people sort of going... oh, look, Wizards of the Coast are trying to steal people's money and not give them their books or something. And it's like, of course that's not happening.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it's going to turn out to be a major issue. I mean, you've got an obvious contingent of people sort of going... oh, look, Wizards of the Coast are trying to steal people's money and not give them their books or something. And it's like, of course that's not happening.
You can do that. Yeah. And you do that in combat too.
You can do that. Yeah. And you do that in combat too.
I guess the other thing that maybe occurred to me is group dynamics. If you're playing, say, just a regular D&D game and you get into a fight with a bunch of kobolds or something, that's kind of something that everybody's involved in and doing their thing. Whereas a romance will probably be just between two players. Yeah. And what's everyone else doing at the time?
I guess the other thing that maybe occurred to me is group dynamics. If you're playing, say, just a regular D&D game and you get into a fight with a bunch of kobolds or something, that's kind of something that everybody's involved in and doing their thing. Whereas a romance will probably be just between two players. Yeah. And what's everyone else doing at the time?
There's a lot of things to criticise Wizards of the Coast for. That's not one of them. This isn't one of them.
There's a lot of things to criticise Wizards of the Coast for. That's not one of them. This isn't one of them.
We are, we are.
We are, we are.
No, Christian Hawke wrote that.
No, Christian Hawke wrote that.
So Chris Cox is the CEO of Hasbro. And he used to be president of Wizards of the Coast before he got promoted like two years ago or something. I can't remember when it was. Yeah. Two years ago-ish. So he's now CEO of Hasbro. And he was at this Goldman Sachs event.
So Chris Cox is the CEO of Hasbro. And he used to be president of Wizards of the Coast before he got promoted like two years ago or something. I can't remember when it was. Yeah. Two years ago-ish. So he's now CEO of Hasbro. And he was at this Goldman Sachs event.
Yeah. We've also kind of, like, talked about this quite a bit in terms of a developing romance, flirting and then a date and stuff like that. But, of course, romance could exist as, like, right from the start, two players are, I don't know, maybe married. Yeah. Characters, sorry, may be married. And they're playing a married couple in this game.
Yeah. We've also kind of, like, talked about this quite a bit in terms of a developing romance, flirting and then a date and stuff like that. But, of course, romance could exist as, like, right from the start, two players are, I don't know, maybe married. Yeah. Characters, sorry, may be married. And they're playing a married couple in this game.
So you don't have to necessarily go through the whole romancing process. You know, so that's... Yeah, I think that would probably be easier.
So you don't have to necessarily go through the whole romancing process. You know, so that's... Yeah, I think that would probably be easier.
I think, yeah, also you could sort of say you're playing a game and say Jess and I are in this game and we were playing a couple who had been married for 20 years and were a bickering.
I think, yeah, also you could sort of say you're playing a game and say Jess and I are in this game and we were playing a couple who had been married for 20 years and were a bickering.
Yeah, and that's still...
Yeah, and that's still...
I was talking about AI products and how those interact with Hasbro brands such as D&D. It is interesting because, you know, wizards have been, certainly in the last year, saying we will not use any AI for art. And there's been a couple of controversies regarding that where they've published stuff and it has AI art in it. Not always to their knowledge.
I was talking about AI products and how those interact with Hasbro brands such as D&D. It is interesting because, you know, wizards have been, certainly in the last year, saying we will not use any AI for art. And there's been a couple of controversies regarding that where they've published stuff and it has AI art in it. Not always to their knowledge.
I do like bickering, though.
I do like bickering, though.
Yeah, yeah. Right, we are coming up to four, so we need to wind down now. Coming up to the end of our time together, I'm afraid.
Yeah, yeah. Right, we are coming up to four, so we need to wind down now. Coming up to the end of our time together, I'm afraid.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, it's been a real, real pleasure talking to you.
Yeah, it's been a real, real pleasure talking to you.
Oh, believe me, we get lots of rants about AI on our show.
Oh, believe me, we get lots of rants about AI on our show.
You know, sometimes it was, you know, an artist that, you know,
You know, sometimes it was, you know, an artist that, you know,
But yeah. But they've kind of like very much taken the stance that AI is going to not go near D&D. At least that's the messaging that I feel I've been receiving. whether that's what they intended or not. So that's kind of the impression I've gotten.
But yeah. But they've kind of like very much taken the stance that AI is going to not go near D&D. At least that's the messaging that I feel I've been receiving. whether that's what they intended or not. So that's kind of the impression I've gotten.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Chris Cox was talking to people at this Goldman Sachs thing. I guess they're investors, I guess, or someone, something like that. I don't know who would be at that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Chris Cox was talking to people at this Goldman Sachs thing. I guess they're investors, I guess, or someone, something like that. I don't know who would be at that.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So he's talking about AI, machine learning based AI or proprietary AI. And he says he's excited about what he calls the playful elements of AI. And he talks about the people he plays with.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So he's talking about AI, machine learning based AI or proprietary AI. And he says he's excited about what he calls the playful elements of AI. And he talks about the people he plays with.
He says that he plays with 30 or 40 people regularly. That's an active gaming schedule.
He says that he plays with 30 or 40 people regularly. That's an active gaming schedule.
Yeah. And he says, you know, if you look at a typical D&D player, he says there's not a single person, and these are his words, there's not a single person who doesn't use AI somehow for either campaign development or character development or story ideas. And that's a clear signal that we need to be embracing it.
Yeah. And he says, you know, if you look at a typical D&D player, he says there's not a single person, and these are his words, there's not a single person who doesn't use AI somehow for either campaign development or character development or story ideas. And that's a clear signal that we need to be embracing it.
Which, I don't know what that says about the people that Chris Cox is gaming with, because that's not my experience.
Which, I don't know what that says about the people that Chris Cox is gaming with, because that's not my experience.
So I'm not even aware of people even doing that much in my days.
So I'm not even aware of people even doing that much in my days.
Right, okay.
Right, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I guess from the player side of it, it's not that different to just grabbing an image off Google, which I've definitely done for my characters and things. You know, if I'm playing an elf wizard, I'll just Google elf wizard, see what I like and just say, that's what my character looks like.
Yeah, I guess from the player side of it, it's not that different to just grabbing an image off Google, which I've definitely done for my characters and things. You know, if I'm playing an elf wizard, I'll just Google elf wizard, see what I like and just say, that's what my character looks like.
So, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. I mean, he does go on to talk about how it needs to be done responsibly and ethically and how creatures need to be paid for their work. So, clearly, he is aware of the issues surrounding AI.
So, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. I mean, he does go on to talk about how it needs to be done responsibly and ethically and how creatures need to be paid for their work. So, clearly, he is aware of the issues surrounding AI.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, he definitely links it there to D&D and player introductions and user-generated content, emergent storytelling. These are the terms he's using.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, he definitely links it there to D&D and player introductions and user-generated content, emergent storytelling. These are the terms he's using.
I've never looked at one, but I'm going to guess they're not great.
I've never looked at one, but I'm going to guess they're not great.
But at that point, they're just regurgitating their own stuff. They're not making... anything new, are they? They're just going around in circles.
But at that point, they're just regurgitating their own stuff. They're not making... anything new, are they? They're just going around in circles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good. I mean... There are things you can do. There's like Free Art on Pixabay, Creative Commons has stuff. Library of Congress has like a trillion pieces of art. There's a lot of open source art. There is. It's just not necessarily the vibe, the look or feel, the aesthetic that you're going for. But yeah, you can do stuff. Black and white tends to be a bit easier to be honest. Very good.
Good. I mean... There are things you can do. There's like Free Art on Pixabay, Creative Commons has stuff. Library of Congress has like a trillion pieces of art. There's a lot of open source art. There is. It's just not necessarily the vibe, the look or feel, the aesthetic that you're going for. But yeah, you can do stuff. Black and white tends to be a bit easier to be honest. Very good.
But, wow, cool. Very cool. The thing is, it's a good movie. It is a good movie, yeah. It's put together well. I can imagine a lot of people being super annoyed at Hasbro, which, you know, shared... It wasn't that, though, because mainstream audiences don't know about that sort of thing. And people who do know about it might be like, well, you know what?
But, wow, cool. Very cool. The thing is, it's a good movie. It is a good movie, yeah. It's put together well. I can imagine a lot of people being super annoyed at Hasbro, which, you know, shared... It wasn't that, though, because mainstream audiences don't know about that sort of thing. And people who do know about it might be like, well, you know what?
The last five Dungeons & Dragons movies were pretty terrible. There have been five? Really? There's a number greater than one. I thought there was only three. I thought there was only five. Wow. Well, anyway, the previous ones. I might make it five. Previous ones have ranged from terrible to terrible.
The last five Dungeons & Dragons movies were pretty terrible. There have been five? Really? There's a number greater than one. I thought there was only three. I thought there was only five. Wow. Well, anyway, the previous ones. I might make it five. Previous ones have ranged from terrible to terrible.
truly abysmal so having something with a coherent plot with like a running through line with like symbolism foreshadowing actual jokes that are actually funny jokes that are funny was the best joke in it is still where the paladin walks over the rock that that was pretty good joke I mean, everyone's got like a favorite. My bit's the bit where the, what do you call it?
truly abysmal so having something with a coherent plot with like a running through line with like symbolism foreshadowing actual jokes that are actually funny jokes that are funny was the best joke in it is still where the paladin walks over the rock that that was pretty good joke I mean, everyone's got like a favorite. My bit's the bit where the, what do you call it?
The brain eaters or whatever they're called. Just walk past them and ignore them.
The brain eaters or whatever they're called. Just walk past them and ignore them.
I'm like, oh, that's so relatable. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a tubby dragon in. What more do you people want? Yeah.
I'm like, oh, that's so relatable. Yeah. Yeah. It's got a tubby dragon in. What more do you people want? Yeah.
Oh, I see.
Oh, I see.
I would probably watch a sequel to it, which is as close to a glowing endorsement as you're going to get.
I would probably watch a sequel to it, which is as close to a glowing endorsement as you're going to get.
A beauty spot.
A beauty spot.
Smooth move from Atlas Games. Good work, John.
Smooth move from Atlas Games. Good work, John.
They are.
They are.
It's cheaper than creating something new. Yeah. But you're paying for something to be bought into creation.
It's cheaper than creating something new. Yeah. But you're paying for something to be bought into creation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay. That sounds good.
Okay. That sounds good.
He's a master of social media.
He's a master of social media.
That's okay. Thanks for having my back. That's very of us.
That's okay. Thanks for having my back. That's very of us.
We talked about a lot of stuff, man. It's weekly. It's a lot.
We talked about a lot of stuff, man. It's weekly. It's a lot.
I'd feel quite stressed doing that. It sounds like it'd be fun. I mean, I do remember, like, I went there about eight years ago, really heavily into immersion. Like, really heavily. Like, when you're queuing up for things, they've got, like, little repeating video messages which are telling you, okay, adventurers, you're going to be doing this, that, or the other, and, you know.
I'd feel quite stressed doing that. It sounds like it'd be fun. I mean, I do remember, like, I went there about eight years ago, really heavily into immersion. Like, really heavily. Like, when you're queuing up for things, they've got, like, little repeating video messages which are telling you, okay, adventurers, you're going to be doing this, that, or the other, and, you know.
all of the walls are made to look like you're in a location, like where you're going to be. Yeah, yeah. A real focus on immersion, which I particularly value, so I was quite impressed.
all of the walls are made to look like you're in a location, like where you're going to be. Yeah, yeah. A real focus on immersion, which I particularly value, so I was quite impressed.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Nice, nice.
Nice, nice.
Don't Disney own? No, it's Universal Pictures. Universal Studios. Universal Studios. So they don't have that. And Disney has Star Wars and Marvel. Yeah, that's true.
Don't Disney own? No, it's Universal Pictures. Universal Studios. Universal Studios. So they don't have that. And Disney has Star Wars and Marvel. Yeah, that's true.
It does, yeah.
It does, yeah.
Good times. I have enjoyed reading the X-Factors.
Good times. I have enjoyed reading the X-Factors.
Vignette.
Vignette.
Yes, yes. But if you are a fan of... Those things. Or is it... Mist of Akuma. Yes, Mist of Akuma. I'll just say Mist of Akuma. Use the proper name rather than the description. That's the best. So if you like Mist of Akuma, then good news, you can pick them all up in a definitive edition or a compilation edition.
Yes, yes. But if you are a fan of... Those things. Or is it... Mist of Akuma. Yes, Mist of Akuma. I'll just say Mist of Akuma. Use the proper name rather than the description. That's the best. So if you like Mist of Akuma, then good news, you can pick them all up in a definitive edition or a compilation edition.
That is true. This is also true. Yes. Cannot argue with that. Yeah.
That is true. This is also true. Yes. Cannot argue with that. Yeah.
Well, well, well. Will it provide you with amazing advice on how to frame your game with D&D? Apparently.
Well, well, well. Will it provide you with amazing advice on how to frame your game with D&D? Apparently.
Well, they used to do that. They did that with Wizards of the Coast, with the Elemental Evil Players Companion, which is a source of much Genasi, Arakokra, and some other full thing. I think it makes sense. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty good, but they stopped doing that, so I haven't really seen those in a while.
Well, they used to do that. They did that with Wizards of the Coast, with the Elemental Evil Players Companion, which is a source of much Genasi, Arakokra, and some other full thing. I think it makes sense. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty good, but they stopped doing that, so I haven't really seen those in a while.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So what is a DM's Toolbox?
So what is a DM's Toolbox?
I would be interested to see what the chase rules are, because after immense amounts of banging my brain against the problem, I'm pretty much of the opinion that you really need to adopt a modal approach, and that a chase is a separate mode from a combat mode.
I would be interested to see what the chase rules are, because after immense amounts of banging my brain against the problem, I'm pretty much of the opinion that you really need to adopt a modal approach, and that a chase is a separate mode from a combat mode.
Fierce of the Mind feels very strong. And you give the chase E...
Fierce of the Mind feels very strong. And you give the chase E...
I don't recall the 5th edition DMG having what I'd call good chase rules. There were rules, certainly. No one can deny that, but I didn't find them satisfying or to do what I like. I can only tell you two things about these chase rules. Okay.
I don't recall the 5th edition DMG having what I'd call good chase rules. There were rules, certainly. No one can deny that, but I didn't find them satisfying or to do what I like. I can only tell you two things about these chase rules. Okay.
Two pages? All right.
Two pages? All right.
I think that it would be fair to say that the 2014 edition of was envisaged as having Exhaustion play a much larger role than most games of 5e that I've seen or had actually had it play. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think there was definitely two camps, at least.
I think that it would be fair to say that the 2014 edition of was envisaged as having Exhaustion play a much larger role than most games of 5e that I've seen or had actually had it play. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think there was definitely two camps, at least.
that can really affect the game.
that can really affect the game.
But yeah, it's all those interesting things with survival versus exploration.
But yeah, it's all those interesting things with survival versus exploration.
Which I think is a little distinction worth borrowing.
Which I think is a little distinction worth borrowing.
So they're doing an actual play on stage, it sounds like. Yes, I believe so. I believe it's on stage. Will it be streamed, Russ? That's the question.
So they're doing an actual play on stage, it sounds like. Yes, I believe so. I believe it's on stage. Will it be streamed, Russ? That's the question.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's probably better. Yeah. Hopefully got the sensitivity readers in. Yeah, mental stress is a thing. Yeah.
Yeah, that's probably better. Yeah. Hopefully got the sensitivity readers in. Yeah, mental stress is a thing. Yeah.
I don't know. Presumably not, I suspect. Well, are we happy for me to engage in some baseless speculation?
I don't know. Presumably not, I suspect. Well, are we happy for me to engage in some baseless speculation?
Yeah, I think this might be something that I'm familiar with from Games Workshop. Some creatures caused fear and others caused terror. and basically that would affect whether you could approach them.
Yeah, I think this might be something that I'm familiar with from Games Workshop. Some creatures caused fear and others caused terror. and basically that would affect whether you could approach them.
Possibly it's an additional rule. Yeah, with this 24-ish. And Death Knights did it as well. Yeah, just to bring that back to maybe if you're doing something like Ravenloft or something, having foes that are too scary to approach. Rather than, oh, there's a phone over there. I will just lamp it for 300 hit points.
Possibly it's an additional rule. Yeah, with this 24-ish. And Death Knights did it as well. Yeah, just to bring that back to maybe if you're doing something like Ravenloft or something, having foes that are too scary to approach. Rather than, oh, there's a phone over there. I will just lamp it for 300 hit points.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With my blessing. Enjoy. Enjoy. Oh, of a phrase you might like, panel beat.
With my blessing. Enjoy. Enjoy. Oh, of a phrase you might like, panel beat.
I know.
I know.
Yeah, I'll go panel bait it into the ground, which has a definite, I grab it and I repeatedly bonk it. I have multi-attack as a fighter. Isn't that what you do to straighten out dents in a car? That's called panel beating, isn't it? Yeah. It's a monster's head as well. I think it's great.
Yeah, I'll go panel bait it into the ground, which has a definite, I grab it and I repeatedly bonk it. I have multi-attack as a fighter. Isn't that what you do to straighten out dents in a car? That's called panel beating, isn't it? Yeah. It's a monster's head as well. I think it's great.
Because people have views on gunpowder in games. Yeah. And the only thing I can tell you about people's views on gunpowder in games is that everyone disagrees with everyone else pretty strongly.
Because people have views on gunpowder in games. Yeah. And the only thing I can tell you about people's views on gunpowder in games is that everyone disagrees with everyone else pretty strongly.
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, Paul Hughes has pretty much nailed that. But I'm interested to see what they come up with.
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, Paul Hughes has pretty much nailed that. But I'm interested to see what they come up with.
So analysis of how to use traps.
So analysis of how to use traps.
Yeah. I'm talking about you.
Yeah. I'm talking about you.
No. There's no choice to be made, is there?
No. There's no choice to be made, is there?
Exactly, exactly, yeah. Yeah.
Exactly, exactly, yeah. Yeah.
And the challenge is... Ideally, with some sort of baiting. Like, you know, you could just ignore the trap, but it's a shiny thing, isn't it? Mm-hmm.
And the challenge is... Ideally, with some sort of baiting. Like, you know, you could just ignore the trap, but it's a shiny thing, isn't it? Mm-hmm.
Do they just have to sit out? Because I was reading online, someone was saying, I went along to a session, had my character in the gym, killed my character at the start of the session. So that evening didn't happen for me.
Do they just have to sit out? Because I was reading online, someone was saying, I went along to a session, had my character in the gym, killed my character at the start of the session. So that evening didn't happen for me.
Went home, because there wasn't even a chance to watch other people playing D&D. That sounds abysmal. And then some people are very invested. I've forgotten how invested people get into characters. But one of my players on Wednesday, due to unfortunate amounts of crits being rolled at them, was like, oh no, my character.
Went home, because there wasn't even a chance to watch other people playing D&D. That sounds abysmal. And then some people are very invested. I've forgotten how invested people get into characters. But one of my players on Wednesday, due to unfortunate amounts of crits being rolled at them, was like, oh no, my character.
And then they rolled and they managed to get two death saving throw failures, which was not good. Not ideal. No, no. So it was like they're not really shifted the focus of the game. They were getting up and pacing around. They were so wound up about it. Which, like, I guess I'm just old and jaded. Because I'm like, oh, wow.
And then they rolled and they managed to get two death saving throw failures, which was not good. Not ideal. No, no. So it was like they're not really shifted the focus of the game. They were getting up and pacing around. They were so wound up about it. Which, like, I guess I'm just old and jaded. Because I'm like, oh, wow.
yeah I mean because it takes time to make even a simple character like a 5e character I've made like dozens of them because like I've made lots of what's it pregens for various adventures league games it takes at least 20 minutes yeah and that's with I mean all the rules yeah yeah first level character see I was using level up gateway last night oh yeah yeah because our whole group got to use it for the first time for an alpha testing
yeah I mean because it takes time to make even a simple character like a 5e character I've made like dozens of them because like I've made lots of what's it pregens for various adventures league games it takes at least 20 minutes yeah and that's with I mean all the rules yeah yeah first level character see I was using level up gateway last night oh yeah yeah because our whole group got to use it for the first time for an alpha testing
I mean, yeah, spamming out. I refer to pen and paper. Oh, yeah. At that point.
I mean, yeah, spamming out. I refer to pen and paper. Oh, yeah. At that point.
I think maybe we have different, we could talk about that a little bit.
I think maybe we have different, we could talk about that a little bit.
I have. The design space in 2014 5th edition isn't sufficiently big that that is a huge problem to choose from the correct answers. That's probably true. In Level Up, the design space is somewhat larger.
I have. The design space in 2014 5th edition isn't sufficiently big that that is a huge problem to choose from the correct answers. That's probably true. In Level Up, the design space is somewhat larger.
I've done the calculations a couple of times and it's definitely in the millions. And yeah, which one's the best ones is the subject of much debate. And I don't know, basically.
I've done the calculations a couple of times and it's definitely in the millions. And yeah, which one's the best ones is the subject of much debate. And I don't know, basically.
Because you're good-hearted and dedicated to resisting corruption.
Because you're good-hearted and dedicated to resisting corruption.
Which is the Augustine school of morality, which I haven't really thought about in so long. Like Manichean, you've got good versus evil. They have a fight. Good should win, technically, whatever. I don't know. Whereas Augustine, it's like it's resisting evil. And by resisting evil, you're killing Gollum, which Gandalf shouts out in the first book. Like, it's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him.
Which is the Augustine school of morality, which I haven't really thought about in so long. Like Manichean, you've got good versus evil. They have a fight. Good should win, technically, whatever. I don't know. Whereas Augustine, it's like it's resisting evil. And by resisting evil, you're killing Gollum, which Gandalf shouts out in the first book. Like, it's a pity Bilbo didn't kill him.
And a stick in the boiler soon.
And a stick in the boiler soon.
Well, maybe Gollum's got a point. We'll have to wait and see. And then at the end, Gollum turns up and Drawn by his evil to the evil's ring, evil destroys itself, which is bang on for Tolkien. And that's what we've heard. I've read a great essay about that.
Well, maybe Gollum's got a point. We'll have to wait and see. And then at the end, Gollum turns up and Drawn by his evil to the evil's ring, evil destroys itself, which is bang on for Tolkien. And that's what we've heard. I've read a great essay about that.
I'd actually like the level of take of, if you're a being from the angelic planes, you probably are likely to be good. And if you're from one of the other places, abyss or hell, you're probably likely to be evil. And then you have Cowboy to come around and say, ooh. aye, your brain looks so tasty. And that amuses me.
I'd actually like the level of take of, if you're a being from the angelic planes, you probably are likely to be good. And if you're from one of the other places, abyss or hell, you're probably likely to be evil. And then you have Cowboy to come around and say, ooh. aye, your brain looks so tasty. And that amuses me.
Under hot water or under cold water.
Under hot water or under cold water.
So you're saying you were adventurous to find themselves in hot water?
So you're saying you were adventurous to find themselves in hot water?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. This feels very Fallout adjacent, where you're... I've not played it, but as Alan said, it's supposed to build up settlements and support them and so forth.
Mm-hmm. This feels very Fallout adjacent, where you're... I've not played it, but as Alan said, it's supposed to build up settlements and support them and so forth.
Generally, my experience when they're streaming these things, they like to throw in the opportunity that you can throw in a bit of extra cash in order to have something hilarious happen. I've seen them once they do that, yeah.
Generally, my experience when they're streaming these things, they like to throw in the opportunity that you can throw in a bit of extra cash in order to have something hilarious happen. I've seen them once they do that, yeah.
I mean, something that I thought was a very good idea when I heard about it was the fourth edition of Dungeons & Dragons had the points of light setting
I mean, something that I thought was a very good idea when I heard about it was the fourth edition of Dungeons & Dragons had the points of light setting
yeah you'd have the settlements that acted as um like little oases of civilization and beauty and peace and order and you'd be trying to build them up so maybe that would be good for a reason yeah i mean that's what it is yeah yeah yeah it never really went very far that set and i remember it i don't think it was even named yeah i think point to light is as far as i got but i i was like so i i i
yeah you'd have the settlements that acted as um like little oases of civilization and beauty and peace and order and you'd be trying to build them up so maybe that would be good for a reason yeah i mean that's what it is yeah yeah yeah it never really went very far that set and i remember it i don't think it was even named yeah i think point to light is as far as i got but i i was like so i i i
Large amounts of empty space and algorables.
Large amounts of empty space and algorables.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, like MCDM, flee mortals, level up, possibly entails the value. I don't know how to check. Well, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, like MCDM, flee mortals, level up, possibly entails the value. I don't know how to check. Well, yeah.
That would mean it's a more auto-hitting witch, wouldn't it?
That would mean it's a more auto-hitting witch, wouldn't it?
Yeah, I like the level-up approach of making a deck saving throw against that sort of thing, with the DC being based on the number of shots.
Yeah, I like the level-up approach of making a deck saving throw against that sort of thing, with the DC being based on the number of shots.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Reputation and all that, yeah.
Reputation and all that, yeah.
So keeping it tier-appropriate.
So keeping it tier-appropriate.
Like, if you're using D&D Beyond, if you're using their books, it's a lot more fiddly because there's different tables which can be accessed at different times according to if you're doing random rolls. And it's not massively clear, in my experience from looking at them, what tier is for what. But, you know, it's like That was like, I don't know, eight years ago for me to be messing around with.
Like, if you're using D&D Beyond, if you're using their books, it's a lot more fiddly because there's different tables which can be accessed at different times according to if you're doing random rolls. And it's not massively clear, in my experience from looking at them, what tier is for what. But, you know, it's like That was like, I don't know, eight years ago for me to be messing around with.
So, you know. possibly things have changed yeah is it something you've looked at Jessica?
So, you know. possibly things have changed yeah is it something you've looked at Jessica?
And you've never really been into cyberpunk?
And you've never really been into cyberpunk?
Which seems like a weird suggestion, but one of the best things about Cyberpunk is just the pages and pages of interesting things you can buy. Yeah, it's just so much stuff.
Which seems like a weird suggestion, but one of the best things about Cyberpunk is just the pages and pages of interesting things you can buy. Yeah, it's just so much stuff.
Like having rumours be part of it. Like if you go round... Like, you know, if you're really... delving into, like, sort of a hub-based game. You've got, like, the magic, the various, like, vendors of alchemy, magic weapons. You can go and talk to them. You can do, like, you know, computer game style. Yeah. But they've got, like, instead of repeating the same thing, they have the rumours as well.
Like having rumours be part of it. Like if you go round... Like, you know, if you're really... delving into, like, sort of a hub-based game. You've got, like, the magic, the various, like, vendors of alchemy, magic weapons. You can go and talk to them. You can do, like, you know, computer game style. Yeah. But they've got, like, instead of repeating the same thing, they have the rumours as well.
maybe you you know so it's like part of what's going on it's not just right shopping trip time yeah yeah it's an underutilized part of the game i don't want to screw you i think i think i think you're right it's just it's work intensive it's work intensive and it's time intensive it's like is it delivering bang for the buck like we spent table time on this has it been exciting well the other option is no shopping yes no shopping at all yeah there are no magic shops yeah
maybe you you know so it's like part of what's going on it's not just right shopping trip time yeah yeah it's an underutilized part of the game i don't want to screw you i think i think i think you're right it's just it's work intensive it's work intensive and it's time intensive it's like is it delivering bang for the buck like we spent table time on this has it been exciting well the other option is no shopping yes no shopping at all yeah there are no magic shops yeah
Yeah, yeah. Loot.
Yeah, yeah. Loot.
That's 2014. Or you can make your own. Wow, 2014. Steering back. Can you make your own magic items?
That's 2014. Or you can make your own. Wow, 2014. Steering back. Can you make your own magic items?
Oh, shit. Sorry, I don't mean to sigh quite so heavily. It's just, well, it's just like that means that to engage with that as a player, you have to be aware that these options are on the table to craft stuff. And then you have to make sure, if that's something you'd be interested in, that your character has the arcana proficiency or a tool proficiency or something like that. I think it's both.
Oh, shit. Sorry, I don't mean to sigh quite so heavily. It's just, well, it's just like that means that to engage with that as a player, you have to be aware that these options are on the table to craft stuff. And then you have to make sure, if that's something you'd be interested in, that your character has the arcana proficiency or a tool proficiency or something like that. I think it's both.
You need both. You need both. So you need to set yourself up to really...
You need both. You need both. So you need to set yourself up to really...
like almost dedicate your character to it before you can engage with it i don't think yeah i don't think crafting is something that most people probably want to do in their games it's it's it's there for a certain you know i mean people enjoy crafting in computer games um and i i know i can enjoy crafting in computer games it's just the circumstances are exceedingly rare that i do so
like almost dedicate your character to it before you can engage with it i don't think yeah i don't think crafting is something that most people probably want to do in their games it's it's it's there for a certain you know i mean people enjoy crafting in computer games um and i i know i can enjoy crafting in computer games it's just the circumstances are exceedingly rare that i do so
Let's see how this works.
Let's see how this works.
Oh, Drakons and Demons.
Oh, Drakons and Demons.
Right. So...
Right. So...
straight away unless you invest the feet into it this is not a game that you get to have they do say that multiple people can contribute work together okay and so well you need to because otherwise that's a lot of skills yeah yeah yeah so basically then it's a question of gold and time and this is determined basically by the rarity of the item yeah so this is something you could give to your players and say crack on and sort it out yourselves yeah
straight away unless you invest the feet into it this is not a game that you get to have they do say that multiple people can contribute work together okay and so well you need to because otherwise that's a lot of skills yeah yeah yeah so basically then it's a question of gold and time and this is determined basically by the rarity of the item yeah so this is something you could give to your players and say crack on and sort it out yourselves yeah
They don't need to make a skill check.
They don't need to make a skill check.
Yeah, yeah. So Wonder Magic was sold pretty easy to crank out. If you want something legendary, then that's going to take a while.
Yeah, yeah. So Wonder Magic was sold pretty easy to crank out. If you want something legendary, then that's going to take a while.
There is a collaborative element.
There is a collaborative element.
where characters can bring their, you can have multiple people, that's what I said, which I feel is pretty essential. So yeah, okay, it's a crafting system, it's pretty basic. Does it say anything about materials?
where characters can bring their, you can have multiple people, that's what I said, which I feel is pretty essential. So yeah, okay, it's a crafting system, it's pretty basic. Does it say anything about materials?
Yeah, I mean, I think, to be fair, if you're not interested in the crafting, which is fair, you can just pay full price.
Yeah, I mean, I think, to be fair, if you're not interested in the crafting, which is fair, you can just pay full price.
But if you're interested in the crafting and you're interested in the components, you can have like a little mini quest to find it.
But if you're interested in the crafting and you're interested in the components, you can have like a little mini quest to find it.
And, you know, depends upon the game you're playing. So, you know, it sounds okay. Yeah. I mean, I like to do a mini quest to get the right component.
And, you know, depends upon the game you're playing. So, you know, it sounds okay. Yeah. I mean, I like to do a mini quest to get the right component.
Oh, yeah. Sorry, I'm talking about The DMG. Yeah. You just need gold. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. It'll work. Sounds good.
Oh, yeah. Sorry, I'm talking about The DMG. Yeah. You just need gold. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. It'll work. Sounds good.
You'll know which culture has created it. That's a holdover from the 5th edition, 2014. Yeah. which I really liked. I had a lot of fun with that. If only my players had been interested in reading the stuff. I wrote stuff on an index card, and they just, on the back, wrote what bonuses it gave them. I was like, oh, okay.
You'll know which culture has created it. That's a holdover from the 5th edition, 2014. Yeah. which I really liked. I had a lot of fun with that. If only my players had been interested in reading the stuff. I wrote stuff on an index card, and they just, on the back, wrote what bonuses it gave them. I was like, oh, okay.
For better or worse, magic items are just... I'd say to a certain extent, it almost becomes a class feature. Like a magic sword at fifth level is pretty much essential because... that's when you start encountering magic resistance or resistance to non-magical weapons. And then you're like, well, I guess I'd best use my magic sword then. Yeah.
For better or worse, magic items are just... I'd say to a certain extent, it almost becomes a class feature. Like a magic sword at fifth level is pretty much essential because... that's when you start encountering magic resistance or resistance to non-magical weapons. And then you're like, well, I guess I'd best use my magic sword then. Yeah.
But, yeah.
But, yeah.
It'd be nice to acquire things with a bit of personality. But I mean, it's nice with the flavor text, but I guess for me, it's not really connected into the core game. So it's like loses a bit of value.
It'd be nice to acquire things with a bit of personality. But I mean, it's nice with the flavor text, but I guess for me, it's not really connected into the core game. So it's like loses a bit of value.
It becomes like something that accretes on to what you're trying to do rather than being like a real... It's nice to have it, but it's not... If you don't have it, then it's very optional, is what I'm saying. And I don't know, it'd be cool to have a game where like these... really fed into the main narrative, which you can do, but again, it takes actual work.
It becomes like something that accretes on to what you're trying to do rather than being like a real... It's nice to have it, but it's not... If you don't have it, then it's very optional, is what I'm saying. And I don't know, it'd be cool to have a game where like these... really fed into the main narrative, which you can do, but again, it takes actual work.
But maybe they've got some of that in the section on the install box. We shall have to wait and see.
But maybe they've got some of that in the section on the install box. We shall have to wait and see.
It's fine. Russ doesn't understand about dry ciders. Yeah.
It's fine. Russ doesn't understand about dry ciders. Yeah.
I don't like cider. You come from the New Forest. How can you not know about cider? Soap? Doesn't mean I like cider.
I don't like cider. You come from the New Forest. How can you not know about cider? Soap? Doesn't mean I like cider.
We should. We should. I don't bid you good day.
We should. We should. I don't bid you good day.
In full colour.
In full colour.
So it's got kind of a sandbox vibe to it.
So it's got kind of a sandbox vibe to it.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's very much coming across really strongly to me. It does sound very friendly. Dragonbane itself is. I only played it, but it was pretty simple. No particular hard things. It's like a roll under a D20 versus a stat. So, you know, kind of ridiculous-esque. But no, this sounds like a really, this is the sort of standard of adventure which I would look to pick up.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's very much coming across really strongly to me. It does sound very friendly. Dragonbane itself is. I only played it, but it was pretty simple. No particular hard things. It's like a roll under a D20 versus a stat. So, you know, kind of ridiculous-esque. But no, this sounds like a really, this is the sort of standard of adventure which I would look to pick up.
Because if I, you know, I'm not a newbie at GM by any means, but I am very lazy. And like, if I am running a pre-written, I don't want to be working Yeah. Like, you know, like that's why I'm wearing a pre-written. If I wanted to work, I felt invested in working hard. I would literally do it myself. I have all the tools.
Because if I, you know, I'm not a newbie at GM by any means, but I am very lazy. And like, if I am running a pre-written, I don't want to be working Yeah. Like, you know, like that's why I'm wearing a pre-written. If I wanted to work, I felt invested in working hard. I would literally do it myself. I have all the tools.
But sometimes you just want to run an adventure and have some fun. And it sounds great for that. So amazing.
But sometimes you just want to run an adventure and have some fun. And it sounds great for that. So amazing.
Yeah. This girl has her eye on the Book to Journalist pipeline.
Yeah. This girl has her eye on the Book to Journalist pipeline.
Like taking advantage of the feedback and make it really good.
Like taking advantage of the feedback and make it really good.
Yep.
Yep.
Right. Well, that does sound like one for the fans of the franchise.
Right. Well, that does sound like one for the fans of the franchise.
And I've had a bit of experience with that. Played a Star Trek game, which was using it to help us have some parasites around. So that was very cool. Did enjoy that. Yeah. All the trauma dice in action. Yeah. Oh, that's free legal, yeah.
And I've had a bit of experience with that. Played a Star Trek game, which was using it to help us have some parasites around. So that was very cool. Did enjoy that. Yeah. All the trauma dice in action. Yeah. Oh, that's free legal, yeah.
Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes. More news. I have a little bit of news. Okay. It is called Monsters, Horrors and Abomination.
Mm-hmm. Okay. Yes. More news. I have a little bit of news. Okay. It is called Monsters, Horrors and Abomination.
Tips on horror. What this is, is Ben Minnett from Periapt Games, who did the Life Path character creation for 5th edition characters, based over in New Zealand, has launched a whole bestiary. 210 pages. Pollock Warriors, Singing Parasites, Primeval Lizard Gods, and something called Rule Eaters. Unsettling Monsters for D&D 5E is the description. So that hasn't launched yet.
Tips on horror. What this is, is Ben Minnett from Periapt Games, who did the Life Path character creation for 5th edition characters, based over in New Zealand, has launched a whole bestiary. 210 pages. Pollock Warriors, Singing Parasites, Primeval Lizard Gods, and something called Rule Eaters. Unsettling Monsters for D&D 5E is the description. So that hasn't launched yet.
Right. As ever. It is a delight to be here. Joining us also, a mysterious figure. Some say that she's a remnant of 18th century French nobility. Others, that she's secretly a pretty, pretty princess pony. All I know is that's one hell of a cutie mark. It's the one! It's Siri!
Right. As ever. It is a delight to be here. Joining us also, a mysterious figure. Some say that she's a remnant of 18th century French nobility. Others, that she's secretly a pretty, pretty princess pony. All I know is that's one hell of a cutie mark. It's the one! It's Siri!
So if you want to be notified... then you can join in the queue for notification. I saw it and I was like, oh, that's quite good.
So if you want to be notified... then you can join in the queue for notification. I saw it and I was like, oh, that's quite good.
All right.
All right.
It feels like HeroQuest-y to me. Very HeroQuest-y.
It feels like HeroQuest-y to me. Very HeroQuest-y.
Yes, I may be tempted by this.
Yes, I may be tempted by this.
Yeah, I fancy that.
Yeah, I fancy that.
Do you know what? Yeah, thanks for bringing that attention. I have backed it. I've backed it.
Do you know what? Yeah, thanks for bringing that attention. I have backed it. I've backed it.
Yeah, live on the show.
Yeah, live on the show.
I have a nephew that really enjoyed HeroQuest, and now he's a bit older. He's playing RPGs and things, so I think this might be that nice intersection.
I have a nephew that really enjoyed HeroQuest, and now he's a bit older. He's playing RPGs and things, so I think this might be that nice intersection.
P-E-T-A, as in People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
P-E-T-A, as in People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.
Somebody needs to control them, yeah.
Somebody needs to control them, yeah.
Of all of their campaigns, this doesn't feel like an extreme and controversial thing, though. It's, you know, by comparison. In the bigger picture, this doesn't feel like, yes.
Of all of their campaigns, this doesn't feel like an extreme and controversial thing, though. It's, you know, by comparison. In the bigger picture, this doesn't feel like, yes.
But anyway, it's free to download on Peter's website and the link is on ENworld if you would like to have a look at it.
But anyway, it's free to download on Peter's website and the link is on ENworld if you would like to have a look at it.
Is it time for me to do my weekly excuse to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 on the podcast?
Is it time for me to do my weekly excuse to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 on the podcast?
I know. so one thing is for those that are going to the MCM Comic Con in London so that is happening later this month in October 27th they are doing the cast of Baldur's Gate 3 will be performing a D&D live show at the Comic Con so it has Neil Newman who plays Astarion Devorah Wilde who plays Lazelle Theo Solomon, who plays Will, and Samantha Burt. Is it Burt or B-Art? Who plays Karlak?
I know. so one thing is for those that are going to the MCM Comic Con in London so that is happening later this month in October 27th they are doing the cast of Baldur's Gate 3 will be performing a D&D live show at the Comic Con so it has Neil Newman who plays Astarion Devorah Wilde who plays Lazelle Theo Solomon, who plays Will, and Samantha Burt. Is it Burt or B-Art? Who plays Karlak?
I can't remember. It looks like Hart, which I love about her name because of the Karlak thing. But anyway, but they're all playing in a live D&D show. And, yeah, it looks really cool. Yeah. You have to buy a ticket to the show. It's at 11 a.m. And, yeah, that's it, really.
I can't remember. It looks like Hart, which I love about her name because of the Karlak thing. But anyway, but they're all playing in a live D&D show. And, yeah, it looks really cool. Yeah. You have to buy a ticket to the show. It's at 11 a.m. And, yeah, that's it, really.
Let me tell you the thing that I'm most excited about that's happened this week.
Let me tell you the thing that I'm most excited about that's happened this week.
Yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
That would be funny.
That would be funny.
But yeah, and Wizards was tagged in the show, so I imagine this is another promo of the 2024 D&D rules or something. No word on whether we'll see anything about the VTT, because they did that last time, but I haven't got any confirmation that that would be the case.
But yeah, and Wizards was tagged in the show, so I imagine this is another promo of the 2024 D&D rules or something. No word on whether we'll see anything about the VTT, because they did that last time, but I haven't got any confirmation that that would be the case.
They did it previously at Gen Con.
They did it previously at Gen Con.
yeah but maybe it's the in the development time scale it's not doesn't work or i don't know i don't have details whether it will or will not but i know that the the actors will be there and they'll be playing that so that'll be fun so if you're fans of them and i imagine they'll also be at the show if you like signings and things also in other bolder skate news so whiz kids have released some bolder skate 3 miniatures it's got seven of the characters so it's kind of the core companions
yeah but maybe it's the in the development time scale it's not doesn't work or i don't know i don't have details whether it will or will not but i know that the the actors will be there and they'll be playing that so that'll be fun so if you're fans of them and i imagine they'll also be at the show if you like signings and things also in other bolder skate news so whiz kids have released some bolder skate 3 miniatures it's got seven of the characters so it's kind of the core companions
Yeah, news, if that's okay. So we talked last week, there's the International Longshoremen's Association was having a port strike in the US, which is valid, fair, love a union, love a strike, all for that. But that would mean that would significantly impact a lot of imports and exports, particularly things coming from Europe to the east coast of the US. And of course, of course...
Yeah, news, if that's okay. So we talked last week, there's the International Longshoremen's Association was having a port strike in the US, which is valid, fair, love a union, love a strike, all for that. But that would mean that would significantly impact a lot of imports and exports, particularly things coming from Europe to the east coast of the US. And of course, of course...
So the core kind of six companions you get in the game, plus Withers, because who wouldn't want him? And they're pre-painted, Russ, so no painting needed. And they look really good, actually. They look... Yeah, I looked at them. They look... Yeah, that's what I'd want from a miniature of them, really. I don't really have much more to say about it other than that.
So the core kind of six companions you get in the game, plus Withers, because who wouldn't want him? And they're pre-painted, Russ, so no painting needed. And they look really good, actually. They look... Yeah, I looked at them. They look... Yeah, that's what I'd want from a miniature of them, really. I don't really have much more to say about it other than that.
So the box, they'll be released in February 2025, and you can pre-order on the website. They're going to have two of them, I believe, but... Yeah, it looks good. I don't really have much more to say. There's minis from Baldur's Gate 3. Cool. So I wonder if this will be a thing that people get as a collector's thing if they just play the game.
So the box, they'll be released in February 2025, and you can pre-order on the website. They're going to have two of them, I believe, but... Yeah, it looks good. I don't really have much more to say. There's minis from Baldur's Gate 3. Cool. So I wonder if this will be a thing that people get as a collector's thing if they just play the game.
I hadn't planned on it. It depends. Because like I say, I have my little gaming budget each month. And also, I don't use a lot of minis when I do gaming at the moment as well. Well, yeah, I mean, a lot of my gaming is online, so... Yeah, so some of it's online, or some of it's using systems where you don't need to move 30 feet and measure and things like that, so that's not... it's not a thing.
I hadn't planned on it. It depends. Because like I say, I have my little gaming budget each month. And also, I don't use a lot of minis when I do gaming at the moment as well. Well, yeah, I mean, a lot of my gaming is online, so... Yeah, so some of it's online, or some of it's using systems where you don't need to move 30 feet and measure and things like that, so that's not... it's not a thing.
Or a game I'm running a lot is I'm running games when I do one-shots events, I'm using the starter box sets that we have, and they come with little tokens. So... Fair enough. I haven't indulged in that puppy enough yet. But that's my Baldur's Gate 3 news for this week. Should we get a jingle for that? Jess's Baldur's Gate 3 news.
Or a game I'm running a lot is I'm running games when I do one-shots events, I'm using the starter box sets that we have, and they come with little tokens. So... Fair enough. I haven't indulged in that puppy enough yet. But that's my Baldur's Gate 3 news for this week. Should we get a jingle for that? Jess's Baldur's Gate 3 news.
Yeah, I think I'll chat to Daryl.
Yeah, I think I'll chat to Daryl.
I love that. Done. Okay.
I love that. Done. Okay.
I was only briefly present in the 80s.
I was only briefly present in the 80s.
Nice.
Nice.
They know they're big robots. Yeah.
They know they're big robots. Yeah.
Maybe when the Kickstarter goes live, maybe there'll be some info.
Maybe when the Kickstarter goes live, maybe there'll be some info.
That is something us at EM Publishing are just finishing printing something and sending it over. But yeah, so I was a little bit worried about that. And on Monday of this week, we were seeing if they were going to reach a resolution, but they didn't. And so the strike happened. But now, as of today, they have reached a tentative deal to end the strike.
That is something us at EM Publishing are just finishing printing something and sending it over. But yeah, so I was a little bit worried about that. And on Monday of this week, we were seeing if they were going to reach a resolution, but they didn't. And so the strike happened. But now, as of today, they have reached a tentative deal to end the strike.
Does that include Age of Sigmar things?
Does that include Age of Sigmar things?
Oh, maybe a quick, maybe a cheeky PDF on a discount.
Oh, maybe a quick, maybe a cheeky PDF on a discount.
Nice.
Nice.
I'm in a Warframe campaign, yeah, that I play every other week. So I play that. I've already got the rulebook for that PDF. I haven't played 40k, but some friends of mine are in a long-running campaign of it, and they really enjoy it. They really like the setting and the world and things, and they're having a great time with it. But the 40k thing doesn't appeal to me as much. I don't know why.
I'm in a Warframe campaign, yeah, that I play every other week. So I play that. I've already got the rulebook for that PDF. I haven't played 40k, but some friends of mine are in a long-running campaign of it, and they really enjoy it. They really like the setting and the world and things, and they're having a great time with it. But the 40k thing doesn't appeal to me as much. I don't know why.
I've never just been like, ooh, that's what I want to play. But Age of Sigmar, I did an interview, I think last year? Maybe the year before that.
I've never just been like, ooh, that's what I want to play. But Age of Sigmar, I did an interview, I think last year? Maybe the year before that.
So it's not signed and things yet, but it means they have suspended the strike until January 15th so that they can negotiate it properly. And get everything signed. But. This means the strike. Is ending. And people are going to be going back to work. Which. First of all. Good for the people on the strike. Because it seems like they have. A deal that they are happy with. Yeah. And second of all.
So it's not signed and things yet, but it means they have suspended the strike until January 15th so that they can negotiate it properly. And get everything signed. But. This means the strike. Is ending. And people are going to be going back to work. Which. First of all. Good for the people on the strike. Because it seems like they have. A deal that they are happy with. Yeah. And second of all.
I have another offer sitting at some pre-order that I wish I had known about a couple of weeks ago. Because a friend of mine is running a little Candela Obscura and loves it. And now there is a Candela Obscura adventure book. It's by Beadle and Grimm, so it's luxury. So it's got...
I have another offer sitting at some pre-order that I wish I had known about a couple of weeks ago. Because a friend of mine is running a little Candela Obscura and loves it. And now there is a Candela Obscura adventure book. It's by Beadle and Grimm, so it's luxury. So it's got...
216 page book with eight different assignments which are like the adventures that you have it's got a premium edition standalone version of the book it's got region maps gm screens props it's got art cards there's handouts linen bound foil stamped hardcover but like it's it's a pretty collection of stuff and the maps look really cool as well
216 page book with eight different assignments which are like the adventures that you have it's got a premium edition standalone version of the book it's got region maps gm screens props it's got art cards there's handouts linen bound foil stamped hardcover but like it's it's a pretty collection of stuff and the maps look really cool as well
Okay. Yeah. Alrighty.
Okay. Yeah. Alrighty.
This is in Great British Pounds, so please translate to your local thing.
This is in Great British Pounds, so please translate to your local thing.
Yeah, and it will ship in February 2025.
Yeah, and it will ship in February 2025.
but yeah it does look there's a lot of stuff in and i see why it costs that much because there's loads of there's loads of maps there's a gm screen there's the adventure there's loads of handouts there's art cards as well so you can show and this is the person you're speaking to so it is and there's props as well it looks like one of them's like a necklace and amulets and things like that so it has the stuff in it comes with all the digital tools as well so you can play it on demiplane and
but yeah it does look there's a lot of stuff in and i see why it costs that much because there's loads of there's loads of maps there's a gm screen there's the adventure there's loads of handouts there's art cards as well so you can show and this is the person you're speaking to so it is and there's props as well it looks like one of them's like a necklace and amulets and things like that so it has the stuff in it comes with all the digital tools as well so you can play it on demiplane and
So it does have all the stuff you'd expect. It is like a pretty penny, but if you have... I mean, yeah, but it's big and grim.
So it does have all the stuff you'd expect. It is like a pretty penny, but if you have... I mean, yeah, but it's big and grim.
Yes, I think so, but yeah.
Yes, I think so, but yeah.
This feels like a great gift for somebody that's enjoying Candela Obscura, to be honest. This feels like a good, like, get together your friendship group and buy it for somebody sort of thing. And I wish I knew about two weeks ago, because it was that friend's birthday two weeks ago, so how do I know? Could have had a whip around for it, but never mind, alas. Yeah, no.
This feels like a great gift for somebody that's enjoying Candela Obscura, to be honest. This feels like a good, like, get together your friendship group and buy it for somebody sort of thing. And I wish I knew about two weeks ago, because it was that friend's birthday two weeks ago, so how do I know? Could have had a whip around for it, but never mind, alas. Yeah, no.
but yeah that is happening now so yeah so by Beadle and Graham they said they have an arrangement with Darrington Press but they haven't announced who the design team is or who you know wrote things and stuff yet but it is a thing that exists that you can get I've got some good news if people would like to hear I love good news it is pretty good news Owen Casey Stevens has been cleared of cancer
but yeah that is happening now so yeah so by Beadle and Graham they said they have an arrangement with Darrington Press but they haven't announced who the design team is or who you know wrote things and stuff yet but it is a thing that exists that you can get I've got some good news if people would like to hear I love good news it is pretty good news Owen Casey Stevens has been cleared of cancer
Good for me. Because I was quite stressed about. As a person that manages shipping and operations. But yeah.
Good for me. Because I was quite stressed about. As a person that manages shipping and operations. But yeah.
Yes, instead of being licensed, they own it, own it.
Yes, instead of being licensed, they own it, own it.
Let me just enjoy the moment. Let me just enjoy the moment. And yes, we will have a shipment, but our other shipment could go around the West Coast instead.
Let me just enjoy the moment. Let me just enjoy the moment. And yes, we will have a shipment, but our other shipment could go around the West Coast instead.
Yes, but no, it's fine. And luckily, I mean, I told our supporters and everyone was like, yeah, fair enough, because I mean... What really can we as a tiny company do? Things like that. And like, you know, so many people. I think it was like three billion a day it was costing the economy. So like so many people were affected. Yeah.
Yes, but no, it's fine. And luckily, I mean, I told our supporters and everyone was like, yeah, fair enough, because I mean... What really can we as a tiny company do? Things like that. And like, you know, so many people. I think it was like three billion a day it was costing the economy. So like so many people were affected. Yeah.
I mean, it is free, so you can't argue with that price.
I mean, it is free, so you can't argue with that price.
I'm sure someone will complain about it, though.
I'm sure someone will complain about it, though.
Okay, so like locations, magic, NPCs.
Okay, so like locations, magic, NPCs.
of like dnd merch coming out is there's some beholder dice and they do look really cool they're like some clear dice and inside there's a little beholder inside and it looks really well done actually and um nice it's 24 25 dollars for them so actually it's for a set of like luxury nice dice isn't that isn't that bad yeah
of like dnd merch coming out is there's some beholder dice and they do look really cool they're like some clear dice and inside there's a little beholder inside and it looks really well done actually and um nice it's 24 25 dollars for them so actually it's for a set of like luxury nice dice isn't that isn't that bad yeah
And apparently the two products that were panic bought most in America as a result of this was milk and toilet paper. And those are two products that are produced domestically and would not be. Yeah. would not be affected by the strike.
And apparently the two products that were panic bought most in America as a result of this was milk and toilet paper. And those are two products that are produced domestically and would not be. Yeah. would not be affected by the strike.
But yeah, that was one on that list of random D&D merch things coming out that I thought, oh, that does look nice.
But yeah, that was one on that list of random D&D merch things coming out that I thought, oh, that does look nice.
Well, ribbon bookmarks are great as well.
Well, ribbon bookmarks are great as well.
Little clothing pegs, you know, the mini ones you can get, like in a stationery accessory thing, you can get them in multiple colours. And then I use that on the page. It usually works in a softcover book, just if I'm running to flip through an adventure. Yeah, yeah. And then I use a coloured pen that matches that to write what it is. So I, yeah, I'm that person. That sounds great.
Little clothing pegs, you know, the mini ones you can get, like in a stationery accessory thing, you can get them in multiple colours. And then I use that on the page. It usually works in a softcover book, just if I'm running to flip through an adventure. Yeah, yeah. And then I use a coloured pen that matches that to write what it is. So I, yeah, I'm that person. That sounds great.
Exactly, yeah, I love that. Yeah. Okay, so that could be some cool bits as, like, Christmas gifts for a D&D fan in your life. Yeah.
Exactly, yeah, I love that. Yeah. Okay, so that could be some cool bits as, like, Christmas gifts for a D&D fan in your life. Yeah.
Oh, I don't want to do that. I'm myself all day.
Oh, I don't want to do that. I'm myself all day.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Immediately dead. Yeah. It's the answer to that. Pretty much.
Immediately dead. Yeah. It's the answer to that. Pretty much.
Yes. Well, the thing is, I remember in the beginning of the pandemic, toilet paper was the thing that everyone panicked for. It's the go-to thing.
Yes. Well, the thing is, I remember in the beginning of the pandemic, toilet paper was the thing that everyone panicked for. It's the go-to thing.
There is a website where you can do your D&D stats, and there's a questionnaire it takes you through. Me and my friendship group did that, but my gaming group at the time... Was it very depressing? Well, there's a lot of chronically ill people in my gaming group, so the constitution was like, five. Wow. But yeah...
There is a website where you can do your D&D stats, and there's a questionnaire it takes you through. Me and my friendship group did that, but my gaming group at the time... Was it very depressing? Well, there's a lot of chronically ill people in my gaming group, so the constitution was like, five. Wow. But yeah...
Bench press? Why don't they do squats? I'd do better with that. Squats or deadlifts?
Bench press? Why don't they do squats? I'd do better with that. Squats or deadlifts?
Everyone's like, this is what I cannot live without.
Everyone's like, this is what I cannot live without.
No, no, I do not.
No, no, I do not.
What's a military press? She says eating a cookie.
What's a military press? She says eating a cookie.
Um, I don't know. You can have a good day.
Um, I don't know. You can have a good day.
It's an overhead press with a bar.
It's an overhead press with a bar.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Mine would be very low, though. If you're deadlifting, I'll be okay.
Mine would be very low, though. If you're deadlifting, I'll be okay.
That's not dexterity, that's athletics. That's like, what? Surely dexterity would be like, can you do the coin thing with your fingers? Or like, I don't know.
That's not dexterity, that's athletics. That's like, what? Surely dexterity would be like, can you do the coin thing with your fingers? Or like, I don't know.
Can you jump out the way?
Can you jump out the way?
I disagree. Let's make our own.
I disagree. Let's make our own.
It doesn't really account for somebody if you're managing a long-term chronic illness. With work, I don't miss work, but I do my hours as and when over the week that makes sense. So technically... The last time I missed it was June when we had COVID after UK Games Expo.
It doesn't really account for somebody if you're managing a long-term chronic illness. With work, I don't miss work, but I do my hours as and when over the week that makes sense. So technically... The last time I missed it was June when we had COVID after UK Games Expo.
Sounds about right, to be honest. Like... Someone with an autoimmune disease, like, not... No.
Sounds about right, to be honest. Like... Someone with an autoimmune disease, like, not... No.
Okay.
Okay.
Yes. Well, is it related to tabletop RPGs?
Yes. Well, is it related to tabletop RPGs?
I don't think I've ever had an IQ test. Because why?
I don't think I've ever had an IQ test. Because why?
Yeah, but I don't know what purpose I'd use it for, because academic things, like getting my academic qualifications, there was a reason for it.
Yeah, but I don't know what purpose I'd use it for, because academic things, like getting my academic qualifications, there was a reason for it.
Did they ask you to? No, it was for laughs. No, it was for laughs.
Did they ask you to? No, it was for laughs. No, it was for laughs.
that one I like that one's a bit funny subtract the resulting number from 20 and this is your wisdom that's I like that that's funny that's silly that's so the more you play D&D the lower your wisdom basically am I saying I think that's probably the only uncontroversial one that they proposed yeah I like that because what other measure would you have is like how many times a week do your friends say really again like minus your score based on how many of those you get hmm but what if you've got terribly stupid friends yeah
that one I like that one's a bit funny subtract the resulting number from 20 and this is your wisdom that's I like that that's funny that's silly that's so the more you play D&D the lower your wisdom basically am I saying I think that's probably the only uncontroversial one that they proposed yeah I like that because what other measure would you have is like how many times a week do your friends say really again like minus your score based on how many of those you get hmm but what if you've got terribly stupid friends yeah
praise the results right off. Well, if they say it at you, you know.
praise the results right off. Well, if they say it at you, you know.
Oh yeah, what's the measure on that?
Oh yeah, what's the measure on that?
What if you were, like, in Cops or something? Like, we have apprehended a suspect. You know, you're technically on TV, but it's not because you're charismatic.
What if you were, like, in Cops or something? Like, we have apprehended a suspect. You know, you're technically on TV, but it's not because you're charismatic.
I bet there are people that have. I bet there are serial offenders. That guy, what's his name? Florida Man. He gets up to a lot.
I bet there are people that have. I bet there are serial offenders. That guy, what's his name? Florida Man. He gets up to a lot.
Yeah, how do they calculate the stats? Yes.
Yeah, how do they calculate the stats? Yes.
It looks like a dragon.
It looks like a dragon.
I like the artwork of a cool D&D setup. There's like a table with a castle and pieces on it and a portal and little clipboards on the side attached to the table which have maybe what would be character sheets I guess.
I like the artwork of a cool D&D setup. There's like a table with a castle and pieces on it and a portal and little clipboards on the side attached to the table which have maybe what would be character sheets I guess.
And side tables for drinks and stuff.
And side tables for drinks and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That does sound like something we'd do.
That does sound like something we'd do.
The way they've been talking about it in the chapters, it seems like they're moving to do a bit more of how to use the tools in this book than they previously did. Because before, it was very much, these are all the tools. But if you were new and picking it up, you're a bit like, oh, I feel overwhelmed. So I think this book is going to be a bit more, and this is how you use it in this example.
The way they've been talking about it in the chapters, it seems like they're moving to do a bit more of how to use the tools in this book than they previously did. Because before, it was very much, these are all the tools. But if you were new and picking it up, you're a bit like, oh, I feel overwhelmed. So I think this book is going to be a bit more, and this is how you use it in this example.
So that's the vibe I've got from when they've been talking about it. But I've not seen the text to...
So that's the vibe I've got from when they've been talking about it. But I've not seen the text to...
confirm if this has been realized but i think that is a good idea because the hobby needs more people to run games because i know so many people that want to play that don't want to run that want to play and try it out but there's not enough there's not enough people running games in the hobby it's unreasonably hard to run in my opinion like i've run a lot of games i've played a lot of games and
confirm if this has been realized but i think that is a good idea because the hobby needs more people to run games because i know so many people that want to play that don't want to run that want to play and try it out but there's not enough there's not enough people running games in the hobby it's unreasonably hard to run in my opinion like i've run a lot of games i've played a lot of games and
Yes, it would, yeah.
Yes, it would, yeah.
Still to this day, not clear how it works.
Still to this day, not clear how it works.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think it's really valid because a lot of people, when they come to the hobby, it's just their group of friends. They're like, we want to start playing. Let's try it out. And one person goes, okay, I'll give it a go.
And I think it's really valid because a lot of people, when they come to the hobby, it's just their group of friends. They're like, we want to start playing. Let's try it out. And one person goes, okay, I'll give it a go.
and they just they're left on their own and this book might be the only resource that they have because they might not know about online communities and things like i'm very lucky i joined rpgs as a player became part of a community and be able to be a player and learn things for a decade before i even started trying to run games
and they just they're left on their own and this book might be the only resource that they have because they might not know about online communities and things like i'm very lucky i joined rpgs as a player became part of a community and be able to be a player and learn things for a decade before i even started trying to run games
But that is still very overwhelming, because, you know, like, which video do I watch? And then you get all these click-based YouTube videos that are, never make this awful DM mistake, and things like that, because that's what the algorithm favours.
But that is still very overwhelming, because, you know, like, which video do I watch? And then you get all these click-based YouTube videos that are, never make this awful DM mistake, and things like that, because that's what the algorithm favours.
yeah equally as well with with gm with jamming there is so many different it's hard to do because there are so many different type types of styles of doing things like i know there's a lot of one true ways about it as well i know the three of us the way we all run games is very is different i'd say we all three of us have different styles of running games and it's not that one is right or wrong it's just that's the what works for us and some people will like it and some people won't
yeah equally as well with with gm with jamming there is so many different it's hard to do because there are so many different type types of styles of doing things like i know there's a lot of one true ways about it as well i know the three of us the way we all run games is very is different i'd say we all three of us have different styles of running games and it's not that one is right or wrong it's just that's the what works for us and some people will like it and some people won't
In the same way that there's different genres for storytelling and some people like some more than others. And I think that gets lost sometimes as well.
In the same way that there's different genres for storytelling and some people like some more than others. And I think that gets lost sometimes as well.
I want them to be weird.
I want them to be weird.
Including the GM. I think that's the bit that gets left out a lot. It's like, what's your job? Entertain us. Dance, GM.
Including the GM. I think that's the bit that gets left out a lot. It's like, what's your job? Entertain us. Dance, GM.
I'm a big fan of no, but. Absolutely.
I'm a big fan of no, but. Absolutely.
Oh, disgust.
Oh, disgust.
What does it say? Tell us.
What does it say? Tell us.
Very honest of you. Thank you.
Very honest of you. Thank you.
That's a real collaborative.
That's a real collaborative.
I think I'm going to be kind.
I think I'm going to be kind.
I'm going to think the intent is to be, do you know what? Managing Bastion seems like a whole thing. We want to take some work off the GM. Because as we just mentioned, running a game is a lot of work and you're doing a lot. Maybe things for players to do. So I'd understand that intent. So it'd be like mechanically, this is something that the players sort and resolve and do.
I'm going to think the intent is to be, do you know what? Managing Bastion seems like a whole thing. We want to take some work off the GM. Because as we just mentioned, running a game is a lot of work and you're doing a lot. Maybe things for players to do. So I'd understand that intent. So it'd be like mechanically, this is something that the players sort and resolve and do.
And they have their actions and stuff they can do. And you don't have to worry about it as the GM. Maybe that's kind of the intent. But the way that's phrased does make it seem very...
And they have their actions and stuff they can do. And you don't have to worry about it as the GM. Maybe that's kind of the intent. But the way that's phrased does make it seem very...
GM versus the table and yeah I think well in my opinion a good gaming group it's we're collaboratively telling a story all of us as a table and and sometimes the ideas come from the GM they're running sometimes it comes from the table yeah and I did I did not sign up to role-playing games
GM versus the table and yeah I think well in my opinion a good gaming group it's we're collaboratively telling a story all of us as a table and and sometimes the ideas come from the GM they're running sometimes it comes from the table yeah and I did I did not sign up to role-playing games
Like... Yeah. My friends already hate me. Why do I need to run again?
Like... Yeah. My friends already hate me. Why do I need to run again?
Interact it and have the world impact it, I think would be... I guess it needs more context and we don't have the context. I was trying to be generous and think maybe the intent is something like this is something for the players to take ownership of and manage. That's one less thing for you as the GM. I'm hoping that's what the meaning is.
Interact it and have the world impact it, I think would be... I guess it needs more context and we don't have the context. I was trying to be generous and think maybe the intent is something like this is something for the players to take ownership of and manage. That's one less thing for you as the GM. I'm hoping that's what the meaning is.
That I understand. So it's not something you want to make their life more difficult. This is, yeah. this is meant to be something that's a positive thing for them mechanically. Like they get facilities at different levels so they can get an armoury or a workshop and you'd want that to be something that gives them a bonus.
That I understand. So it's not something you want to make their life more difficult. This is, yeah. this is meant to be something that's a positive thing for them mechanically. Like they get facilities at different levels so they can get an armoury or a workshop and you'd want that to be something that gives them a bonus.
It's not like, oh, well now you have to run around finding enough iron to make it work. You don't want it to become a slog.
It's not like, oh, well now you have to run around finding enough iron to make it work. You don't want it to become a slog.
Until we know more, it's hard to say. I'm going to decide that it's meant in the best way and that line is just misleading.
Until we know more, it's hard to say. I'm going to decide that it's meant in the best way and that line is just misleading.
The thing about D&D is that Wizards of the Coast cannot come to your house and tell you off for playing it wrong.
The thing about D&D is that Wizards of the Coast cannot come to your house and tell you off for playing it wrong.
No, no. Yeah. I mean, like, like with any role-playing game system, people like, if you don't like the role, don't play. And that's always true. Cause it's like, you know, yeah, fine. But yeah.
No, no. Yeah. I mean, like, like with any role-playing game system, people like, if you don't like the role, don't play. And that's always true. Cause it's like, you know, yeah, fine. But yeah.
Like I say, this is... And itch.io is a big sales platform for TTRPGs, so that's the... Yeah. Oh, okay.
Like I say, this is... And itch.io is a big sales platform for TTRPGs, so that's the... Yeah. Oh, okay.
We don't have the books.
We don't have the books.
So it could be... That's why I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt. Yeah.
So it could be... That's why I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt. Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Gosh.
Gosh.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we're speaking to your local game store now so they can make sure they have a copy put aside for you or something.
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we're speaking to your local game store now so they can make sure they have a copy put aside for you or something.
Yeah, I think we're done on that note.
Yeah, I think we're done on that note.
All right.
All right.
What's that charisma score you think going to be now? That's what they do. Get several people to listen to your podcast sign-offs and decide what your charisma score is.
What's that charisma score you think going to be now? That's what they do. Get several people to listen to your podcast sign-offs and decide what your charisma score is.
That feels like a vicious mockery thing. Your charisma is the square root of two. What?
That feels like a vicious mockery thing. Your charisma is the square root of two. What?
Are you lottery ticketing?
Are you lottery ticketing?
No, but if we say on the podcast, all the time-travellers will use it, and the value will be much lower. Do your own work, time-travellers. It's trouble. No time-travellers want to work these days.
No, but if we say on the podcast, all the time-travellers will use it, and the value will be much lower. Do your own work, time-travellers. It's trouble. No time-travellers want to work these days.
Fast surpasses my knowledge, so I'm impressed.
Fast surpasses my knowledge, so I'm impressed.
So kind of like fate, when you have the... It's not called tags, is it? What's it called? Aspects in fate?
So kind of like fate, when you have the... It's not called tags, is it? What's it called? Aspects in fate?
What are they called? Yeah.
What are they called? Yeah.
That makes sense, because that kind of humour is, like you say, funny for a one-shot, but I imagine... could drag after a year or two you know like yeah i do like comedy rpgs for a one shot like being silly and things for one session sure i could spend a few hours doing that but yeah i don't i don't think i'd want every other week or every week to be doing that myself
That makes sense, because that kind of humour is, like you say, funny for a one-shot, but I imagine... could drag after a year or two you know like yeah i do like comedy rpgs for a one shot like being silly and things for one session sure i could spend a few hours doing that but yeah i don't i don't think i'd want every other week or every week to be doing that myself
I guess because it's a one shot again there'd be less frustration potentially of the mechanics of that because if it's just for one night you're like okay fine but yeah in a campaign like we talked about before if there's you know if the rules aren't as tight and doesn't feel fair for everybody, that could become a real point of contention long-term.
I guess because it's a one shot again there'd be less frustration potentially of the mechanics of that because if it's just for one night you're like okay fine but yeah in a campaign like we talked about before if there's you know if the rules aren't as tight and doesn't feel fair for everybody, that could become a real point of contention long-term.
If it's just for one night, it could be something you brush off and let go, I guess.
If it's just for one night, it could be something you brush off and let go, I guess.
I guess you'd just do it narratively, wouldn't you?
I guess you'd just do it narratively, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Love that. All right. When does that come into crowdfunding?
Yeah. Love that. All right. When does that come into crowdfunding?
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, I think it looks like that will fund. That would be my bet.
Yeah, I think it looks like that will fund. That would be my bet.
There are.
There are.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, fair enough.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Where?
Where?
Right, right, right.
Right, right, right.
Woo-hoo!
Woo-hoo!
Anyway.
Anyway.
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Yeah, I like it. That looks fun. I like this sort of thing.
Yeah, I like it. That looks fun. I like this sort of thing.
It does say flat.
It does say flat.
I would have to work out what... But what do you mean?
I would have to work out what... But what do you mean?
As a general concept, yes.
As a general concept, yes.
I'll play it. In terms of D&D music, I have been listening to the Baldur's Gate 3 soundtrack all week at work.
I'll play it. In terms of D&D music, I have been listening to the Baldur's Gate 3 soundtrack all week at work.
Okay.
Okay.
Interesting. I don't have the technology to play vinyl.
Interesting. I don't have the technology to play vinyl.
I might give it a listen if it's on like a streaming. I know I usually listen on Spotify and I know people that are really into their music. I know that's not the best quality for things. But yeah.
I might give it a listen if it's on like a streaming. I know I usually listen on Spotify and I know people that are really into their music. I know that's not the best quality for things. But yeah.
I mean, yeah. I mean, that would be the case for me. The main thing is, if I really want to listen to good music, there's nothing like listening to it in person. Like, I really now want to go listen to... They do, like, orchestral performances from the Bald Skate 3 soundtrack, for example. I'd love to go listen to that, because that would be a different elevated experience, I think. Yeah.
I mean, yeah. I mean, that would be the case for me. The main thing is, if I really want to listen to good music, there's nothing like listening to it in person. Like, I really now want to go listen to... They do, like, orchestral performances from the Bald Skate 3 soundtrack, for example. I'd love to go listen to that, because that would be a different elevated experience, I think. Yeah.
And it will happen again.
And it will happen again.
Okay. I like music in my games because I think it creates a mood.
Okay. I like music in my games because I think it creates a mood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's the thing with RPGs, isn't it? One person's young because another one's young. I don't often get the chance to do music because often if I'm running at a convention or in a games club, there's other tables and then that would feel a bit rude to be using music and sound effects to do the tables.
Well, that's the thing with RPGs, isn't it? One person's young because another one's young. I don't often get the chance to do music because often if I'm running at a convention or in a games club, there's other tables and then that would feel a bit rude to be using music and sound effects to do the tables.
But if I'm playing a home game or something or an online game, I tend to do sound effects and music and things.
But if I'm playing a home game or something or an online game, I tend to do sound effects and music and things.
medical things as they may occur we'll have to call you Florence when you say doing an emergency dentist appointment you don't mean performing it but being subjected to it well from what I understand he won't be performing it on himself but I didn't I actually didn't ask to clarify so did he leave the house with a big pair of pliers I didn't check you know well I guess we just have to wait is he a qualified dentist
medical things as they may occur we'll have to call you Florence when you say doing an emergency dentist appointment you don't mean performing it but being subjected to it well from what I understand he won't be performing it on himself but I didn't I actually didn't ask to clarify so did he leave the house with a big pair of pliers I didn't check you know well I guess we just have to wait is he a qualified dentist
Because I like it.
Because I like it.
You're in an itchy mood.
You're in an itchy mood.
This is nice. This could be really nice if you know you want to do a session zero, but you're not sure on how to structure that session. I think this just gives you a really nice structure to do that if you've not done it before. So if you're like, I do want this to be a collaborative world building experience, but how do we, you don't just want to sit down and be like, so what do we want to do?
This is nice. This could be really nice if you know you want to do a session zero, but you're not sure on how to structure that session. I think this just gives you a really nice structure to do that if you've not done it before. So if you're like, I do want this to be a collaborative world building experience, but how do we, you don't just want to sit down and be like, so what do we want to do?
I think this is, yeah, it could be a nice structure.
I think this is, yeah, it could be a nice structure.
Well, home is where the heart is, I guess.
Well, home is where the heart is, I guess.
Yeah, it's a My Little Pony.
Yeah, it's a My Little Pony.
No, but, you know, when does being qualified for something stop you doing it? Much like this podcast. That's true.
No, but, you know, when does being qualified for something stop you doing it? Much like this podcast. That's true.
So you can find out.
So you can find out.
But from a galaxy far, far away. It's not Star Wars. I don't know why I went there. It's space.
But from a galaxy far, far away. It's not Star Wars. I don't know why I went there. It's space.
No, it's the alien RPG in space.
No, it's the alien RPG in space.
Yeah, some news. A D&D tabletop RPG and various global shipping crisis news is the news that I've seen.
Yeah, some news. A D&D tabletop RPG and various global shipping crisis news is the news that I've seen.
Do you know what? In a role-playing game, I can make it if I want because the limit is my imagination. Anyway, so Alien RPG second edition is coming out. So Free League is doing a crowdfunder for their Raptor protocol. So there's going to be an adventure. There's going to be a starter set, which is called Hope's Last Day. and they've released the maps for them.
Do you know what? In a role-playing game, I can make it if I want because the limit is my imagination. Anyway, so Alien RPG second edition is coming out. So Free League is doing a crowdfunder for their Raptor protocol. So there's going to be an adventure. There's going to be a starter set, which is called Hope's Last Day. and they've released the maps for them.
And they've also said that the maps, the way they've designed it, they've got some minis and updated rules, so you could use this as a miniature skirmish game if you wanted as well, as part of your role-playing game, which is cool. I have the Aliens first edition that I have not played yet, so I'm going to play that first before looking at second edition. But the maps look really good.
And they've also said that the maps, the way they've designed it, they've got some minis and updated rules, so you could use this as a miniature skirmish game if you wanted as well, as part of your role-playing game, which is cool. I have the Aliens first edition that I have not played yet, so I'm going to play that first before looking at second edition. But the maps look really good.
Yeah, I love the maps. There's an article on EM Worlds, and you could really use this for any sci-fi adventure, really, that matches that sort of genre. You could use this for your mothership adventures or stuff like that. It's like a big ship deck plan and things.
Yeah, I love the maps. There's an article on EM Worlds, and you could really use this for any sci-fi adventure, really, that matches that sort of genre. You could use this for your mothership adventures or stuff like that. It's like a big ship deck plan and things.
No, it doesn't have... Is it quite thin? No. Oh, okay. Well, the images I have here are not...
No, it doesn't have... Is it quite thin? No. Oh, okay. Well, the images I have here are not...
Yeah, if you use it online to overlay it. In fairness, on the big deck plan, the rooms do have squares because I think that's the design of the floors, like metal square sheets. But no, not really. They're not gridded. But yeah, they just look really cool. And I'm used to free leagues, adventures, having nice accessories and nice stuff in. So I kind of expect no less.
Yeah, if you use it online to overlay it. In fairness, on the big deck plan, the rooms do have squares because I think that's the design of the floors, like metal square sheets. But no, not really. They're not gridded. But yeah, they just look really cool. And I'm used to free leagues, adventures, having nice accessories and nice stuff in. So I kind of expect no less.
If a free league game came out and it wasn't stunning, I'd be like, what happened? Like, they've raised the bar in terms of aesthetics for me quite high.
If a free league game came out and it wasn't stunning, I'd be like, what happened? Like, they've raised the bar in terms of aesthetics for me quite high.
Can you get it outside of Kickstarter?
Can you get it outside of Kickstarter?
Oh, so you can't put it on your Christmas list.
Oh, so you can't put it on your Christmas list.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, there we go.
Oh, there we go.
Do we have any other adventure news whilst we're going, as we're on the topic?
Do we have any other adventure news whilst we're going, as we're on the topic?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, I guess, yeah.
Yes, I guess, yeah.
I've got a non-fun bit of news, really.
I've got a non-fun bit of news, really.
Well, I'm not going to find it fun anyway. As you mentioned, as the person that does a lot of the logistics and operations for an RPG publisher based in the UK. So, there is a longshoreman union strike which could affect shipping in the UK to the EU for games going to the USA. So... Pretty much.
Well, I'm not going to find it fun anyway. As you mentioned, as the person that does a lot of the logistics and operations for an RPG publisher based in the UK. So, there is a longshoreman union strike which could affect shipping in the UK to the EU for games going to the USA. So... Pretty much.
The International Longshoremen's Association has threatened to strike if they can't make a deal about their current contract. And their contract expires at midnight on September 30th. And as of the time of recording, there is no deal secured currently.
The International Longshoremen's Association has threatened to strike if they can't make a deal about their current contract. And their contract expires at midnight on September 30th. And as of the time of recording, there is no deal secured currently.
So this means that 14 major ports in the Atlantic coast, all the way from Texas to Massachusetts, they would have a walkout, which is like 45,000 workers going on strike.
So this means that 14 major ports in the Atlantic coast, all the way from Texas to Massachusetts, they would have a walkout, which is like 45,000 workers going on strike.
yes and this is the first east this would be the first east coast dock strike since 1944 so it is it will be a big deal this will cause shipping chaos because with shipping you can't accept inbound ships until the ones there have been unloaded emptied moved on it means that it's it and also the it'll increase prices from other parts of the world because the way shipping containers work is
yes and this is the first east this would be the first east coast dock strike since 1944 so it is it will be a big deal this will cause shipping chaos because with shipping you can't accept inbound ships until the ones there have been unloaded emptied moved on it means that it's it and also the it'll increase prices from other parts of the world because the way shipping containers work is
it depends on a constant circulation of the containers moving globally around. That was part of the issues during COVID is things weren't moving around. So it has impacts on price, delays, loads of stuff. So what this means, so for me, as somebody who works in this, I'm like, oh no, because I had to deal with all this. This could cost us money.
it depends on a constant circulation of the containers moving globally around. That was part of the issues during COVID is things weren't moving around. So it has impacts on price, delays, loads of stuff. So what this means, so for me, as somebody who works in this, I'm like, oh no, because I had to deal with all this. This could cost us money.
But for you as a listener, if you're not a publisher, this could impact you getting your goods and rewards back. So I'm saying if you are supporting crowdfunding campaigns from UK or European publishers and there's a delay and you're getting your games, please be nice to your publisher because they did not want to order this. So for us, I just saw this today.
But for you as a listener, if you're not a publisher, this could impact you getting your goods and rewards back. So I'm saying if you are supporting crowdfunding campaigns from UK or European publishers and there's a delay and you're getting your games, please be nice to your publisher because they did not want to order this. So for us, I just saw this today.
Well, I think the hobby has grown since 2014.
Well, I think the hobby has grown since 2014.
and this might potentially impact the Planes Riders journal film we've got coming up.
and this might potentially impact the Planes Riders journal film we've got coming up.
We do, yes.
We do, yes.
That is absolutely correct. So that is one of the ports affected. So I might need to see if we need to... have it go to a different port, which could impact the timeline.
That is absolutely correct. So that is one of the ports affected. So I might need to see if we need to... have it go to a different port, which could impact the timeline.
Yes.
Yes.
And that is exactly what we're doing. So... I mean, if you're waiting for a crowdfunding campaign, I'd wait to hear from your publisher if they're shipping from that part of the world, depending on what they manufacture. But this will also could impact other shipping things globally as well, because that's how it works. That number of ports closing down will impact the prices globally.
And that is exactly what we're doing. So... I mean, if you're waiting for a crowdfunding campaign, I'd wait to hear from your publisher if they're shipping from that part of the world, depending on what they manufacture. But this will also could impact other shipping things globally as well, because that's how it works. That number of ports closing down will impact the prices globally.
of shipping freight around globally.
of shipping freight around globally.
That means on Monday... I mean, if I was them, I'd be wanting to find a deal because this would cost them... Yeah, because this strike will impact 55% of all imports in the United States. This isn't just tabletop RPG. This will impact tabletop RPG, obviously, but...
That means on Monday... I mean, if I was them, I'd be wanting to find a deal because this would cost them... Yeah, because this strike will impact 55% of all imports in the United States. This isn't just tabletop RPG. This will impact tabletop RPG, obviously, but...
The estimated cost of this would be $5 billion per day. They don't resolve this. So I think, but yeah, there's information in like the Guardian, CBS News and all the other big places.
The estimated cost of this would be $5 billion per day. They don't resolve this. So I think, but yeah, there's information in like the Guardian, CBS News and all the other big places.
In terms of tabletop, this could mean delays with your crowdfunding, and potentially, if this goes on for a long time, could mean shipping costs increase as well for things like that. Yeah.
In terms of tabletop, this could mean delays with your crowdfunding, and potentially, if this goes on for a long time, could mean shipping costs increase as well for things like that. Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Wow.
Wow.
Why is that?
Why is that?
Yeah, Russ, why are you doing that? I said it to you like you caused this, you did this.
Yeah, Russ, why are you doing that? I said it to you like you caused this, you did this.
Yeah, Russ, why are you setting the prices?
Yeah, Russ, why are you setting the prices?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that does feel a little bit... I would have questions, too.
Yeah, that does feel a little bit... I would have questions, too.
And yeah, that's not me saying people shouldn't strike or things like that, just to be clear. This is just me saying this is what it will mean.
And yeah, that's not me saying people shouldn't strike or things like that, just to be clear. This is just me saying this is what it will mean.
And if you're planning on launching a crowdfunding campaign, it might be worth holding off and checking your shipping prices or... saying you'll do shipping prices later or something, because this could change drastically, and if you've got a small campaign, that can make or break your campaign. If suddenly it costs an extra $5 per parcel to send, that can be a thing.
And if you're planning on launching a crowdfunding campaign, it might be worth holding off and checking your shipping prices or... saying you'll do shipping prices later or something, because this could change drastically, and if you've got a small campaign, that can make or break your campaign. If suddenly it costs an extra $5 per parcel to send, that can be a thing.
If you had 85 million people, it could be quite quick, though. Yeah. If they each share out the workload.
If you had 85 million people, it could be quite quick, though. Yeah. If they each share out the workload.
Oh, yeah, it depends how you're doing it, but if you were offset printing something.
Oh, yeah, it depends how you're doing it, but if you were offset printing something.
It might be.
It might be.
Yes. But anyway, so there's some news for you.
Yes. But anyway, so there's some news for you.
I'll keep you updated.
I'll keep you updated.
I'll keep you updated next week on the podcast because I'm, yeah, I'm interested.
I'll keep you updated next week on the podcast because I'm, yeah, I'm interested.
Would you describe that earth as a fat earth?
Would you describe that earth as a fat earth?
Oh, and now we know.
Oh, and now we know.
Oh, I'm kind of intrigued.
Oh, I'm kind of intrigued.
Yep, I'm down.
Yep, I'm down.
Yeah, then it'd be done.
Yeah, then it'd be done.
I'm not the numbers person at EM Publishing.
I'm not the numbers person at EM Publishing.
Yeah, I know, but not the numbers. I'll make Zyn do that. That sounds difficult.
Yeah, I know, but not the numbers. I'll make Zyn do that. That sounds difficult.
Okay. So it seems very fast and loose, very vibes.
Okay. So it seems very fast and loose, very vibes.
I don't mind that.
I don't mind that.
I'm intrigued. I'll take a look.
I'm intrigued. I'll take a look.
That's not the thing in the story, is it? No. You don't go to Discord for epic combat.
That's not the thing in the story, is it? No. You don't go to Discord for epic combat.
That is a lot.
That is a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or just surrounded by ridiculous people.
Or just surrounded by ridiculous people.
What does it bother you?
What does it bother you?
Yes, but, and I would say when you're running more narrative games like that, I wouldn't get you to roll for going up a ladder.
Yes, but, and I would say when you're running more narrative games like that, I wouldn't get you to roll for going up a ladder.
Same Zs.
Same Zs.
I mean, I've run a session where nobody made a single dice roll, so...
I mean, I've run a session where nobody made a single dice roll, so...
I mean, it's a style of role-playing, I think, which we talked about before about, you know, the amount of rules and things like that, that, you know, some people are not going to like this, some people are going to like this, I think.
I mean, it's a style of role-playing, I think, which we talked about before about, you know, the amount of rules and things like that, that, you know, some people are not going to like this, some people are going to like this, I think.
Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. There's probably more to it than what's written there in terms of rules. But I am intrigued.
Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. There's probably more to it than what's written there in terms of rules. But I am intrigued.
Well, we can read that and give our opinions on that then, can't we?
Well, we can read that and give our opinions on that then, can't we?
It could be a moment in a role-playing game, though.
It could be a moment in a role-playing game, though.
But that comes from the character's by-play, really, more than... I don't know. I wouldn't be rushing to run a Discworld...
But that comes from the character's by-play, really, more than... I don't know. I wouldn't be rushing to run a Discworld...
It is, but it's got a very intelligent point it's making behind it, generally.
It is, but it's got a very intelligent point it's making behind it, generally.
It seems silly, but it's a metaphor for something.
It seems silly, but it's a metaphor for something.
really yes some people that yeah i mean some people that they just enjoy it on the surface level in fairness so yeah i know i know because that some of them some of the underlying messages of it to me seemed very obvious but and i sure is to a lot of people but there are some people that have been like what do you mean you're just looking for your agenda in it and i was like no that's that's what the book is about there was a lot of social commentary
really yes some people that yeah i mean some people that they just enjoy it on the surface level in fairness so yeah i know i know because that some of them some of the underlying messages of it to me seemed very obvious but and i sure is to a lot of people but there are some people that have been like what do you mean you're just looking for your agenda in it and i was like no that's that's what the book is about there was a lot of social commentary
I think that's how many they sold. They sold that amount probably at Gen Con. How many did they sell at Gen Con?
I think that's how many they sold. They sold that amount probably at Gen Con. How many did they sell at Gen Con?
Shall we move on to another piece of news?
Shall we move on to another piece of news?
So you know that Morkborg tabletop RPG?
So you know that Morkborg tabletop RPG?
The heavy metal fantasy Morkborg.
The heavy metal fantasy Morkborg.
Indeed, it's getting a video game.
Indeed, it's getting a video game.
Morbidware announced Morkborg Heresy Supreme. It's a side-scroller video game and you take control of an adventure battling through monsters and creatures and it's got that same art style. There is a crowdfunder launching on October 1st and next week. And they've got a cool trailer for it. So if you really like the aesthetic and the vibe of that game, this video game might be the thing.
Morbidware announced Morkborg Heresy Supreme. It's a side-scroller video game and you take control of an adventure battling through monsters and creatures and it's got that same art style. There is a crowdfunder launching on October 1st and next week. And they've got a cool trailer for it. So if you really like the aesthetic and the vibe of that game, this video game might be the thing.
And if you like side-scroller ones, it might be one to check. It's a little indie kind of video game. So, yeah, but it looks quite cool.
And if you like side-scroller ones, it might be one to check. It's a little indie kind of video game. So, yeah, but it looks quite cool.
Oh, I have, yes.
Oh, I have, yes.
I played it once over a decade ago, so I do know it, but I don't recall it.
I played it once over a decade ago, so I do know it, but I don't recall it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As a sauce book, so is it like bechamel? Yeah, as a sauce book. Oh, come on, that was a funny joke.
As a sauce book, so is it like bechamel? Yeah, as a sauce book. Oh, come on, that was a funny joke.
A sauce as in food, a sauce, like ketchup.
A sauce as in food, a sauce, like ketchup.
I guess a Cthulhu sauce book would be quite seafood-based, I'd imagine.
I guess a Cthulhu sauce book would be quite seafood-based, I'd imagine.
What made a book about saucers? There's lots of them. I wonder if a Cthulhu sauce book actually exists.
What made a book about saucers? There's lots of them. I wonder if a Cthulhu sauce book actually exists.
There are Cthulhu recipe books. Recipes from the world of H.P. Lovecraft. Cthulhu's cuisine. But they've missed the chance to call it a sauce book.
There are Cthulhu recipe books. Recipes from the world of H.P. Lovecraft. Cthulhu's cuisine. But they've missed the chance to call it a sauce book.
I've seen a good one. Sorry, the last one. The Necromunchicon.
I've seen a good one. Sorry, the last one. The Necromunchicon.
Sorry, carry on. What's the piece of, sorry. Second Age Fantasy Edition. Fantasy Age Second Edition.
Sorry, carry on. What's the piece of, sorry. Second Age Fantasy Edition. Fantasy Age Second Edition.
Yeah, so that'll be your Barnes & Noble.
Yeah, so that'll be your Barnes & Noble.
Is it an RPG? Or I thought it was a party card game. It's a typical role-playing game. It is? Oh, I misunderstood.
Is it an RPG? Or I thought it was a party card game. It's a typical role-playing game. It is? Oh, I misunderstood.
Yeah, I think it's a board game that has... role-playing talk bits. It seems RPG-themed, like, in terms of fantasy, but I wonder if it's something more like Sheriff of Nottingham, where you have a phase where you do something and then you have to talk and convince people.
Yeah, I think it's a board game that has... role-playing talk bits. It seems RPG-themed, like, in terms of fantasy, but I wonder if it's something more like Sheriff of Nottingham, where you have a phase where you do something and then you have to talk and convince people.
Werewolves of Millers Hollow?
Werewolves of Millers Hollow?
Blood on the Clocktower I wouldn't call a role-playing game, but it is a...
Blood on the Clocktower I wouldn't call a role-playing game, but it is a...
I don't know. For me, it's not a new one for me. A lot of my friends are sober for various reasons, and so this wouldn't be the sort of thing I'd play in my social group. But then other groups of friends are not like that, and so maybe this would be fine.
I don't know. For me, it's not a new one for me. A lot of my friends are sober for various reasons, and so this wouldn't be the sort of thing I'd play in my social group. But then other groups of friends are not like that, and so maybe this would be fine.
It's actually a skill on my CV.
It's actually a skill on my CV.
That's how I got the job at Ian Publishing.
That's how I got the job at Ian Publishing.
Yeah, well, how often does it update? I think it's... Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, well, how often does it update? I think it's... Do you know what I mean?
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
Ooh. Because we're getting close to being able to beta test it. I know we're going to get the original level up backers access. They're going to be the first beta testers, aren't they? Yes.
Ooh. Because we're getting close to being able to beta test it. I know we're going to get the original level up backers access. They're going to be the first beta testers, aren't they? Yes.
The OG crew, as they're also known.
The OG crew, as they're also known.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
I hope people feel the same way when they try it out.
I hope people feel the same way when they try it out.
Yeah, to 6,000 people. I think.
Yeah, to 6,000 people. I think.
But as more stuff is added. The first bit that goes out is just so you can make something and have it.
But as more stuff is added. The first bit that goes out is just so you can make something and have it.
For early testing.
For early testing.
That's all going to be in the proper version.
That's all going to be in the proper version.
What I really liked about it is when I do a long or a short rest, before I do it, it says, okay, when you do this, all these elements will change. And it just reminds you the things that are going to change.
What I really liked about it is when I do a long or a short rest, before I do it, it says, okay, when you do this, all these elements will change. And it just reminds you the things that are going to change.
Yeah, but there's a button to do it, but when you go into that section, it says these are the things in your character sheet that are affected by a long or a short rest, so you can see, and it shows you the amount. So it makes me sometimes go, oh, actually, maybe I don't need a short rest, because I could, you know, actually, I could do, you know... Yeah, I'll play. I like that.
Yeah, but there's a button to do it, but when you go into that section, it says these are the things in your character sheet that are affected by a long or a short rest, so you can see, and it shows you the amount. So it makes me sometimes go, oh, actually, maybe I don't need a short rest, because I could, you know, actually, I could do, you know... Yeah, I'll play. I like that.
Because it also, it felt like it wasn't making me fully dependent on... on it I still it felt like I could learn how to do a pen and paper one as well because our business model with this is not how we'll make you all do this digital thing and then we'll catch you with microtransactions that's not our plan yeah maybe it should be it would be richer if we did that wouldn't we
Because it also, it felt like it wasn't making me fully dependent on... on it I still it felt like I could learn how to do a pen and paper one as well because our business model with this is not how we'll make you all do this digital thing and then we'll catch you with microtransactions that's not our plan yeah maybe it should be it would be richer if we did that wouldn't we
But would we be happy?
But would we be happy?
But would we be happy? Yeah.
But would we be happy? Yeah.
See you next week. Goodbye. Bye. Bye-bye.
See you next week. Goodbye. Bye. Bye-bye.
In what?
In what?
From whom? Did you make it?
From whom? Did you make it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't have one. Do you have one, PJ?
I don't have one. Do you have one, PJ?
There we go.
There we go.
So they haven't had the Amazon report.
So they haven't had the Amazon report.
Yes. So if you've heard this rumour, the answer is no.
Yes. So if you've heard this rumour, the answer is no.
And also, a lot of people that already have the Player's Handbooks, maybe this is my circles I know, aren't necessarily buying the new one, because they're like, oh, should we just keep using this for now? Yeah, sure. So...
And also, a lot of people that already have the Player's Handbooks, maybe this is my circles I know, aren't necessarily buying the new one, because they're like, oh, should we just keep using this for now? Yeah, sure. So...
No, you need more game masters.
No, you need more game masters.
I don't know about this, please tell me more.
I don't know about this, please tell me more.
so many games yeah i mean you played one of them every day it would still take you nearly a year i you know i love these bundles with stuff like that because you find all these like weird games you wouldn't find otherwise and it's great for not dnd for me discovering smaller more niche games so i love these bundles and sometimes some of the charity at the game i'm like that sounds amazing i go and have a look i'm like
so many games yeah i mean you played one of them every day it would still take you nearly a year i you know i love these bundles with stuff like that because you find all these like weird games you wouldn't find otherwise and it's great for not dnd for me discovering smaller more niche games so i love these bundles and sometimes some of the charity at the game i'm like that sounds amazing i go and have a look i'm like
Yes. Oh my goodness. Well, I've just bought it now, so... Oh, there's Glitter Hearts on here.
Yes. Oh my goodness. Well, I've just bought it now, so... Oh, there's Glitter Hearts on here.
Oh, Inspirals is on here as well. I have that one. That is an RPG that teaches you sign language and
Oh, Inspirals is on here as well. I have that one. That is an RPG that teaches you sign language and
american sign language and british sign language you can choose which one depending on that's right which is gonna be more useful to you depending on where you are in the world yeah oh there's lots of nice things here i'll look at that later we should do a podcast sorry i'm just there scrolling through yes yeah yeah oh so um one of our favorite things has happened what are you talking about an announcement
american sign language and british sign language you can choose which one depending on that's right which is gonna be more useful to you depending on where you are in the world yeah oh there's lots of nice things here i'll look at that later we should do a podcast sorry i'm just there scrolling through yes yeah yeah oh so um one of our favorite things has happened what are you talking about an announcement
Of an announcement?
Of an announcement?
Ooh, what's the teasing news?
Ooh, what's the teasing news?
I'm intrigued to listen about that. But, as I said, I always loved the idea of a stronghold system, but I never actually use it whenever I have it.
I'm intrigued to listen about that. But, as I said, I always loved the idea of a stronghold system, but I never actually use it whenever I have it.
Yeah, I'll try and watch that one, I think, and then we can discuss it next week.
Yeah, I'll try and watch that one, I think, and then we can discuss it next week.
Next week.
Next week.
The DMG? Yeah.
The DMG? Yeah.
Oh, no, carry on, yeah.
Oh, no, carry on, yeah.
It seems like they're not underperforming because they're doing very well sales-wise. I was going to do a segue of speaking of, you know, they do an announcement of the announcement for the announcement. If you're like, man, that's an annoying PR way to roll things out. I could do a much better job at that myself.
It seems like they're not underperforming because they're doing very well sales-wise. I was going to do a segue of speaking of, you know, they do an announcement of the announcement for the announcement. If you're like, man, that's an annoying PR way to roll things out. I could do a much better job at that myself.
Well, you could, because Wizards of the Coast is hiring a senior manager for brand publicity. How's that for a segue? Was it good?
Well, you could, because Wizards of the Coast is hiring a senior manager for brand publicity. How's that for a segue? Was it good?
Great. So this is for Dungeons & Dragons, obviously, and also it is Magic the Gathering as well, because it's at Wizards of the Coast, so it's that whole sort of thing. So yes, they're pretty much replacing, it looks like Greg Tito, who we reported, who's left. This is like backfilling that role. So yeah, the job role is up on the website. It's linked on EMworld if you want to find it.
Great. So this is for Dungeons & Dragons, obviously, and also it is Magic the Gathering as well, because it's at Wizards of the Coast, so it's that whole sort of thing. So yes, they're pretty much replacing, it looks like Greg Tito, who we reported, who's left. This is like backfilling that role. So yeah, the job role is up on the website. It's linked on EMworld if you want to find it.
It's on Glassdoor and LinkedIn and all those things as well. So you need to be in Washington, US.
It's on Glassdoor and LinkedIn and all those things as well. So you need to be in Washington, US.
No.
No.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Then job done.
Then job done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
It looks very pretty, yeah.
It looks very pretty, yeah.
I don't know the system at all.
I don't know the system at all.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, okay.
In the original commentary, yeah.
In the original commentary, yeah.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
No, I've not read the book either. In fairness, I wasn't planning on. I've got a stack of books by my bedside table I need to get through before I burn it in you. But yeah.
No, I've not read the book either. In fairness, I wasn't planning on. I've got a stack of books by my bedside table I need to get through before I burn it in you. But yeah.
I'll believe you. I'm very dyslexic, Russ. Reading and pronouncing things is not why I'm here.
I'll believe you. I'm very dyslexic, Russ. Reading and pronouncing things is not why I'm here.
I can't read.
I can't read.
Well, that is true. Not to brag, but yes, I have.
Well, that is true. Not to brag, but yes, I have.
Gosh, gosh. All right. So that is all. I don't have any more D&D adjacent, but not technically D&D news. No. All right.
Gosh, gosh. All right. So that is all. I don't have any more D&D adjacent, but not technically D&D news. No. All right.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Yes. I have something that is not, that fits the brief.
Yes. I have something that is not, that fits the brief.
So it's about the NE Awards. So that is, for those that know, so some TTRPG awards. It's a big thing in the industry. Caveat, Rust did start up many moons ago, but EMworld hasn't been involved with it since like 2019, 2018? 2018.
So it's about the NE Awards. So that is, for those that know, so some TTRPG awards. It's a big thing in the industry. Caveat, Rust did start up many moons ago, but EMworld hasn't been involved with it since like 2019, 2018? 2018.
2018 yeah so so yeah so other people work very hard on it but anyway so last week we talked about it because there was some controversy online because any stated their ai um policy for you know submitting work that contained ai generated content and things like that so they had a statement saying that
2018 yeah so so yeah so other people work very hard on it but anyway so last week we talked about it because there was some controversy online because any stated their ai um policy for you know submitting work that contained ai generated content and things like that so they had a statement saying that
you could submit stuff that had AI-generated content, but you had to declare it, and you would not be eligible for certain award categories. So, for example, if you had AI-generated art in your book, you wouldn't be eligible to be entered for the best artwork category.
you could submit stuff that had AI-generated content, but you had to declare it, and you would not be eligible for certain award categories. So, for example, if you had AI-generated art in your book, you wouldn't be eligible to be entered for the best artwork category.
Kind of what they did. And a lot of people were unhappy about this. It is a brief way to discuss it. I mean, look online if you want to see. It's how the internet works. Yeah. But a lot of people were unhappy about it because AI generated things are a controversial topic in the industry. And a lot of people have a lot of strong opinions about it.
Kind of what they did. And a lot of people were unhappy about this. It is a brief way to discuss it. I mean, look online if you want to see. It's how the internet works. Yeah. But a lot of people were unhappy about it because AI generated things are a controversial topic in the industry. And a lot of people have a lot of strong opinions about it.
Oh, really? Okay.
Oh, really? Okay.
Okay, so I guess in response to this feedback, the NEs have said they're going to take a new policy into effect from 2025. So they've listened to everybody, and they've said that pretty much they're not having AI-generated things that won't be eligible to submit for any awards.
Okay, so I guess in response to this feedback, the NEs have said they're going to take a new policy into effect from 2025. So they've listened to everybody, and they've said that pretty much they're not having AI-generated things that won't be eligible to submit for any awards.
Well, I'm glad. Does James Bond, you know, you've taken his watch? Is he going to come find you?
Well, I'm glad. Does James Bond, you know, you've taken his watch? Is he going to come find you?
generative ai content in at all the entire product is not eligible yeah and that's to be clear that's generative ai which is different from like a spell check device or something like that yeah so just to just to be which there's yeah there's other tools people have which to technically use ai but that doesn't mean that generative ai so so people have generally
generative ai content in at all the entire product is not eligible yeah and that's to be clear that's generative ai which is different from like a spell check device or something like that yeah so just to just to be which there's yeah there's other tools people have which to technically use ai but that doesn't mean that generative ai so so people have generally
You shouldn't tell people that on a live stream.
You shouldn't tell people that on a live stream.
There we go.
There we go.
Haven't they given us out for free as well or something?
Haven't they given us out for free as well or something?
Someone's made... The Chinese one? Yeah.
Someone's made... The Chinese one? Yeah.
You're meant to be a bit more undercover. But actually, I suppose James Bond of all the spies just openly says, hello, I'm James Bond. So he's not very undercover.
You're meant to be a bit more undercover. But actually, I suppose James Bond of all the spies just openly says, hello, I'm James Bond. So he's not very undercover.
Someone's made a generative AI thing and made it available for free and apparently it's better. So a lot of people are upset, I heard.
Someone's made a generative AI thing and made it available for free and apparently it's better. So a lot of people are upset, I heard.
That must be the one, yeah.
That must be the one, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well...
Well...
Anyway, I mean, I don't know what I want to say about that. Anyway, back to the ennies. So your opinion on this has changed, you've said.
Anyway, I mean, I don't know what I want to say about that. Anyway, back to the ennies. So your opinion on this has changed, you've said.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If it hears you saying that, it might shut down mid-livestream. Be careful.
If it hears you saying that, it might shut down mid-livestream. Be careful.
It'll break and be like, oh, I'm not important. Fine then for us.
It'll break and be like, oh, I'm not important. Fine then for us.
No generative AI, yeah.
No generative AI, yeah.
That's a good point. And that's the thing I'd heard of really.
That's a good point. And that's the thing I'd heard of really.
Well, that I think, that would be about lying.
Well, that I think, that would be about lying.
But that, I mean, that same question could be, say if I published a game and I was like, this is mine and I'd actually just stolen someone else's game and copy and pasted it.
But that, I mean, that same question could be, say if I published a game and I was like, this is mine and I'd actually just stolen someone else's game and copy and pasted it.
So that's true. That could be true for many things, you know. I get what you mean. It's hard because a lot of TTRPG books are a collaboration. It's not always one person. So I guess it will come down to contracts then. So if you are an artist, maybe you put your contract, be like, hey,
So that's true. That could be true for many things, you know. I get what you mean. It's hard because a lot of TTRPG books are a collaboration. It's not always one person. So I guess it will come down to contracts then. So if you are an artist, maybe you put your contract, be like, hey,
Is this product that you're buying my artwork for going to have AI because I'd like it to be eligible for awards? And that could be in the terms like in our terms with our artists, we say we don't want generative AI in our products. So don't give us up with that. And that's in the term.
Is this product that you're buying my artwork for going to have AI because I'd like it to be eligible for awards? And that could be in the terms like in our terms with our artists, we say we don't want generative AI in our products. So don't give us up with that. And that's in the term.
So and then if they do that and lie and break the terms of contract, well, that's, you know, a legal different matter. Yeah, we're very we're very up to date on our legal lawyer matters.
So and then if they do that and lie and break the terms of contract, well, that's, you know, a legal different matter. Yeah, we're very we're very up to date on our legal lawyer matters.
Well, I mean, it works for him. What can we complain? What do we know? We don't work for MI5.
Well, I mean, it works for him. What can we complain? What do we know? We don't work for MI5.
I don't think so. I don't think that's a common thing. I mean, there is a bit of a thing. You do get an AI witch hunt online. And even we've had it with I was on a post where I was sharing an artist's piece and being like, hey, this is the artist's piece of work that's going in this. And so I was like, I don't want to get it because it's AI generated. And I'm like, well, it's not.
I don't think so. I don't think that's a common thing. I mean, there is a bit of a thing. You do get an AI witch hunt online. And even we've had it with I was on a post where I was sharing an artist's piece and being like, hey, this is the artist's piece of work that's going in this. And so I was like, I don't want to get it because it's AI generated. And I'm like, well, it's not.
It's by this person. And they're like, no, if you look at it, you can tell it is.
It's by this person. And they're like, no, if you look at it, you can tell it is.
Yes, of course.
Yes, of course.
No, the tools.
No, the tools.
Even back when I was at university, which was a while ago, we had like an online to turn in your things and they had a scanner on it to check for plagiarism. And it would often scan it. And it used to that because I'd have quotes in because when you're doing a paper, you quote other academic journals and it would be like, oh, this.
Even back when I was at university, which was a while ago, we had like an online to turn in your things and they had a scanner on it to check for plagiarism. And it would often scan it. And it used to that because I'd have quotes in because when you're doing a paper, you quote other academic journals and it would be like, oh, this.
And luckily, our professors knew to look at it and go, oh, no, it's picking up that they've quoted. Yeah.
And luckily, our professors knew to look at it and go, oh, no, it's picking up that they've quoted. Yeah.
and i had one that was really high percentage because it was an academic journal review so the whole thing is i had 15 academic journals that i was reviewing and commenting on so it was full of quotes and i'll say if i'm quoting it i'm not saying this is my clever idea um but yeah so and i think yeah the ai scanners are exactly the same it's yeah yeah so i don't i don't so you know in the long i don't know what the right answer is to that i think it's a
and i had one that was really high percentage because it was an academic journal review so the whole thing is i had 15 academic journals that i was reviewing and commenting on so it was full of quotes and i'll say if i'm quoting it i'm not saying this is my clever idea um but yeah so and i think yeah the ai scanners are exactly the same it's yeah yeah so i don't i don't so you know in the long i don't know what the right answer is to that i think it's a
We do. So there's loads of stuff about D&D, and I think our plan is to put that in the second half, just because there's a whole load of stuff about that.
We do. So there's loads of stuff about D&D, and I think our plan is to put that in the second half, just because there's a whole load of stuff about that.
It is. It's tricky.
It is. It's tricky.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think with awards, it is tricky. And obviously a lot of people that do that, it's a volunteer driven organization and it's people wanting to celebrate ETRPGs. And I think they're generally trying to do their best and just figure out what the best thing to do is.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think with awards, it is tricky. And obviously a lot of people that do that, it's a volunteer driven organization and it's people wanting to celebrate ETRPGs. And I think they're generally trying to do their best and just figure out what the best thing to do is.
Yeah. And I think that's what the people running it, I very much, you know, from what I know, the people doing it are very much in the same place as well. It's just, they're just trying to get a chance to celebrate, teach RPG stuff, give people awards and do stuff. And yeah, how nice. Yeah.
Yeah. And I think that's what the people running it, I very much, you know, from what I know, the people doing it are very much in the same place as well. It's just, they're just trying to get a chance to celebrate, teach RPG stuff, give people awards and do stuff. And yeah, how nice. Yeah.
Are you going to do a D&D sandwich? Okay.
Are you going to do a D&D sandwich? Okay.
But, yeah, no, I'm glad they're not having AI-generated content included in there because I usually go to the NEs to find new games that I haven't heard of. So I use that as a tool definitely to find out people that I might not find otherwise.
But, yeah, no, I'm glad they're not having AI-generated content included in there because I usually go to the NEs to find new games that I haven't heard of. So I use that as a tool definitely to find out people that I might not find otherwise.
Yeah, absolutely. So, but, yeah. And just a reminder that the NEs, people can vote for people and nominate people, including podcasts and things like that. So... Just so people are aware. Anyway.
Yeah, absolutely. So, but, yeah. And just a reminder that the NEs, people can vote for people and nominate people, including podcasts and things like that. So... Just so people are aware. Anyway.
I don't, but I've seen it on the news. Oh, I saw it on the news thing and I was like, oh.
I don't, but I've seen it on the news. Oh, I saw it on the news thing and I was like, oh.
What about this? Oh, that's why you know nothing about it.
What about this? Oh, that's why you know nothing about it.
Yes. I'm reading about it now, so I know as much about it as you. Yeah, so you're a vampire hunter, and you're trying to keep a population safe from vampires.
Yes. I'm reading about it now, so I know as much about it as you. Yeah, so you're a vampire hunter, and you're trying to keep a population safe from vampires.
Oh, cool. Oh, it's using the Morkborg system. That's nice.
Oh, cool. Oh, it's using the Morkborg system. That's nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice. Oh, yeah, that looks really cool. It's got some backer kit, yeah. Very nice, yeah.
Nice. Oh, yeah, that looks really cool. It's got some backer kit, yeah. Very nice, yeah.
Well, the description I've got here is it's a gothic tabletop role playing game set in a grim and murky world of Nosgoth, land of frozen lakes, bitter mountains and deep sunless forests. And you play a warrior priest of this brotherhood who hunt vampires. I mean, that sounds pretty cool. I mean, it's a universal. I kind of I get the vibe of what I'm doing. Nice.
Well, the description I've got here is it's a gothic tabletop role playing game set in a grim and murky world of Nosgoth, land of frozen lakes, bitter mountains and deep sunless forests. And you play a warrior priest of this brotherhood who hunt vampires. I mean, that sounds pretty cool. I mean, it's a universal. I kind of I get the vibe of what I'm doing. Nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nice.
Nice.
I mean, that looks very cool. I get why it's doing well.
I mean, that looks very cool. I get why it's doing well.
And I think if you know the game as well, that's probably... Yeah.
And I think if you know the game as well, that's probably... Yeah.
Oh, so it'll be like a coffee table book.
Oh, so it'll be like a coffee table book.
A law book.
A law book.
I will. If you're wrong, I will throw cats at you.
I will. If you're wrong, I will throw cats at you.
Is this referring to last week when we discussed the lawsuit email we got from Evil Genius Games?
Is this referring to last week when we discussed the lawsuit email we got from Evil Genius Games?
About them. Okay. That sounds fair. So where do you want to start with the D&D adjacent news?
About them. Okay. That sounds fair. So where do you want to start with the D&D adjacent news?
Which we kind of knew, yeah. And you've since received an email saying,
Which we kind of knew, yeah. And you've since received an email saying,
lol jk we're not actually gonna see you not those exact words but okay right i was i didn't read it i didn't have okay yeah okay well i've been very worried about it so thank you for confirming to me i keep it worried just haven't slept all week have you it's just been awful that's what you know actually i haven't said that much this week so i've had to go to women work social events for my other half and be a human being and being a human being is so tiring yeah i gave up on that years ago
lol jk we're not actually gonna see you not those exact words but okay right i was i didn't read it i didn't have okay yeah okay well i've been very worried about it so thank you for confirming to me i keep it worried just haven't slept all week have you it's just been awful that's what you know actually i haven't said that much this week so i've had to go to women work social events for my other half and be a human being and being a human being is so tiring yeah i gave up on that years ago
I know, that's the same. That's why I work with EM Publishing. I just consider home being a TTFPG goblin at my desk by myself.
I know, that's the same. That's why I work with EM Publishing. I just consider home being a TTFPG goblin at my desk by myself.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly.
You are a goblin with a nice watch, that is very true. But speaking of throwing cats at you, do you have something feline to share?
You are a goblin with a nice watch, that is very true. But speaking of throwing cats at you, do you have something feline to share?
I said earlier, just a minute ago, I said, if you are wrong, I'll throw cats at you.
I said earlier, just a minute ago, I said, if you are wrong, I'll throw cats at you.
They would love it. Yeah.
They would love it. Yeah.
Yes, I do. It's a pun because cat's purr and conspiracy.
Yes, I do. It's a pun because cat's purr and conspiracy.
A nice play on words.
A nice play on words.
Tell me about Critical Role.
Tell me about Critical Role.
It looks very high production value. Like they've got a nice mat and dice and the book looks nice with like gold. So it looks like a really pretty high quality product as well. So you play a cat.
It looks very high production value. Like they've got a nice mat and dice and the book looks nice with like gold. So it looks like a really pretty high quality product as well. So you play a cat.
Nice.
Nice.
So it's like commentary on real life then?
So it's like commentary on real life then?
Yes. As we know, cats do generally rule the world.
Yes. As we know, cats do generally rule the world.
I know some people that will really like this. There's a role-playing game. It's like a two-player or solo one called Be a Cat, which is kind of like this without the psychic powers side of it. So nice.
I know some people that will really like this. There's a role-playing game. It's like a two-player or solo one called Be a Cat, which is kind of like this without the psychic powers side of it. So nice.
Nice. It looks good. It looks very charming. What system is it?
Nice. It looks good. It looks very charming. What system is it?
The answer.
The answer.
Good, because it's clear that you know.
Good, because it's clear that you know.
Oh, nice.
Oh, nice.
Well, that seems great. How utterly charming. I love that.
Well, that seems great. How utterly charming. I love that.
Some other crowd funders we should shout out, though. PJ's away, but their Backerkit campaign is live right now.
Some other crowd funders we should shout out, though. PJ's away, but their Backerkit campaign is live right now.
Yeah. Well, it wouldn't be rude. I'd like to. So A5E, Crafting, Heritages, Cultures and More, Worldbuilding, which they briefly talked about last week and showed some maps and bits from it. So that is live on Backerkit right now.
Yeah. Well, it wouldn't be rude. I'd like to. So A5E, Crafting, Heritages, Cultures and More, Worldbuilding, which they briefly talked about last week and showed some maps and bits from it. So that is live on Backerkit right now.
Yes, many times over.
Yes, many times over.
Yep. Which makes sense. And so if you want to customize, you know, your own custom heritage and culture for your world using A5E, this is the tool to do that, really.
Yep. Which makes sense. And so if you want to customize, you know, your own custom heritage and culture for your world using A5E, this is the tool to do that, really.
Oh, nice. So if you like tweaking and having your 5E stuff for your world, this also works. Nice.
Oh, nice. So if you like tweaking and having your 5E stuff for your world, this also works. Nice.
And we also would be remiss if we didn't mention our own as well. So the Gate Pass Gazette Annual 2024.
And we also would be remiss if we didn't mention our own as well. So the Gate Pass Gazette Annual 2024.
Yeah, 6th of February it ends. We've met our stretch goal, so it'll be an offset print run of books, which is great. And, yeah, so, yeah, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention that as well.
Yeah, 6th of February it ends. We've met our stretch goal, so it'll be an offset print run of books, which is great. And, yeah, so, yeah, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention that as well.
Go back it, yeah.
Go back it, yeah.
The people of the world, yes. And also the pledge manager for the Monstrous Menagerie 2 has gone out this week as well. So if people miss their opportunity to back Monstrous Menagerie 2 from us, you can do a late pledge option with that. Anyway, that's enough plug in our stuff. Is it time to talk about their D&D?
The people of the world, yes. And also the pledge manager for the Monstrous Menagerie 2 has gone out this week as well. So if people miss their opportunity to back Monstrous Menagerie 2 from us, you can do a late pledge option with that. Anyway, that's enough plug in our stuff. Is it time to talk about their D&D?
Oh, I'm afraid you can't tell about that.
Oh, I'm afraid you can't tell about that.
Well, that's probably because we don't have dice in the UK, Europe, Asia, Africa, Asia, any other part of the world. It's just an American thing.
Well, that's probably because we don't have dice in the UK, Europe, Asia, Africa, Asia, any other part of the world. It's just an American thing.
For those people that are in America, what is it then? Go on. If you're going to share a piece of news, share a piece of news.
For those people that are in America, what is it then? Go on. If you're going to share a piece of news, share a piece of news.
Oh, I thought it had.
Oh, I thought it had.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Dice goblins everywhere can celebrate.
Dice goblins everywhere can celebrate.
Oh, is that a petition you'd need to be in the US to do that, I presume, because it's a national thing?
Oh, is that a petition you'd need to be in the US to do that, I presume, because it's a national thing?
You don't know? I don't know. no one can say this i don't know it's not well researched yeah um it's just a proposal i don't know his petition too is it to the government to make an official one or is it i don't know okay unclear but i suppose you could choose any day to celebrate if you so wished how would you choose to celebrate the day
You don't know? I don't know. no one can say this i don't know it's not well researched yeah um it's just a proposal i don't know his petition too is it to the government to make an official one or is it i don't know okay unclear but i suppose you could choose any day to celebrate if you so wished how would you choose to celebrate the day
Of course, yeah.
Of course, yeah.
The gopher. Groundhog.
The gopher. Groundhog.
So it's not the groundhog that comes up and whether or not they appear is whether or not it's going to be a good year.
So it's not the groundhog that comes up and whether or not they appear is whether or not it's going to be a good year.
right that's quite grand plans russ i mean for me i was thinking i could just get my collection of dice out and make a video showing everyone all my d20s well if i post it online and beam it to america does that count via the inter network i guess good okay well that's how i'll celebrate should the day officially be uh be named okay Yeah. Is that the end of the news of TTRPGs that is not D&D?
right that's quite grand plans russ i mean for me i was thinking i could just get my collection of dice out and make a video showing everyone all my d20s well if i post it online and beam it to america does that count via the inter network i guess good okay well that's how i'll celebrate should the day officially be uh be named okay Yeah. Is that the end of the news of TTRPGs that is not D&D?
Okay.
Okay.
Well, someone in the comment has suggested for National D20 Day, though, that every December 20th, you roll a D20 and on a one, everyone goes to work that day. And then the other day result, you get a day off work. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, someone in the comment has suggested for National D20 Day, though, that every December 20th, you roll a D20 and on a one, everyone goes to work that day. And then the other day result, you get a day off work. Yeah. Yeah.
No, you go roll the massive D20 and decide the fate of the nation.
No, you go roll the massive D20 and decide the fate of the nation.
Yeah. I like that suggestion.
Yeah. I like that suggestion.
Put it in the petition.
Put it in the petition.
We'll see if the people sign it.
We'll see if the people sign it.
Yeah, absolutely. All right. We've got a whole load of Dungeons and or Dragons news because the monster meal is coming out next month.
Yeah, absolutely. All right. We've got a whole load of Dungeons and or Dragons news because the monster meal is coming out next month.
And so there's a lot of information we get given.
And so there's a lot of information we get given.
Okay.
Okay.
They want me.
They want me.
Oh, like a got it. Got it. Okay.
Oh, like a got it. Got it. Okay.
Oh, gosh.
Oh, gosh.
I think that's good. I think that's how... A lot of people play their D&D campaigns as they have their own worlds and their own stuff and they want content to put in. I mean, most people I know don't. It's quite rare that I see somebody running a full-on campaign, like we're running this campaign module now. I more see people having ideas for their own worlds and their own stories.
I think that's good. I think that's how... A lot of people play their D&D campaigns as they have their own worlds and their own stuff and they want content to put in. I mean, most people I know don't. It's quite rare that I see somebody running a full-on campaign, like we're running this campaign module now. I more see people having ideas for their own worlds and their own stories.
So maybe they're just going with what the market wants.
So maybe they're just going with what the market wants.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
That makes it feel like it might be the final one because that wraps up really nicely and also has those flashbacks to people that have been watching it since the beginning. So that would feel quite satisfying, I think.
That makes it feel like it might be the final one because that wraps up really nicely and also has those flashbacks to people that have been watching it since the beginning. So that would feel quite satisfying, I think.
Yes, I have an interest in this because I am in an Eberron campaign, not a 2024 one. We're still using 2014 rules. And I have a character for that. So this piqued my interest to see if there's anything I want to add to my campaign of this.
Yes, I have an interest in this because I am in an Eberron campaign, not a 2024 one. We're still using 2014 rules. And I have a character for that. So this piqued my interest to see if there's anything I want to add to my campaign of this.
The mechanic, yeah.
The mechanic, yeah.
The Artificifer, yes.
The Artificifer, yes.
Yeah, the Artificifer.
Yeah, the Artificifer.
Them, yeah.
Them, yeah.
Like a cyber dog, and there's a cool gun, which has a plasma-y bit on, and all looks a bit steampunk.
Like a cyber dog, and there's a cool gun, which has a plasma-y bit on, and all looks a bit steampunk.
You did know that. It's just Friday. It's been a long week, you know.
You did know that. It's just Friday. It's been a long week, you know.
No. Sorry. Sorry. I mean, in a word. I think I get what you're going for. There's a trench coat. There's also a bow tie, which is, you know, another iteration of the Doctor. But I think he just looks like a steampunk Victorian gent.
No. Sorry. Sorry. I mean, in a word. I think I get what you're going for. There's a trench coat. There's also a bow tie, which is, you know, another iteration of the Doctor. But I think he just looks like a steampunk Victorian gent.
I mean, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Okay. Well, I'll look forward to getting more info on that because, like I say, I'm in a campaign of that that's been going on for a year or so. Yeah.
Okay. Well, I'll look forward to getting more info on that because, like I say, I'm in a campaign of that that's been going on for a year or so. Yeah.
A mystery book?
A mystery book?
Well, that's ruddy mysterious, isn't it?
Well, that's ruddy mysterious, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that one that goes with this art style?
Is that one that goes with this art style?
Okay, sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.
Okay, sorry, I'm getting ahead of myself.
Well, they'll tell us when they're ready. I'm sure at the moment they're focused on the Monster Manual.
Well, they'll tell us when they're ready. I'm sure at the moment they're focused on the Monster Manual.
Spin-off series.
Spin-off series.
straight up again and they never see you and it'd be amazing well russ you mentioned at the top of the podcast you have a james bond watch now so if anyone at en world is able to do such a thing i believe it will be you so i'm sure the watch has all those features that you just mentioned a really close look it's a nice one it's very nice Can we talk about those dragons, though?
straight up again and they never see you and it'd be amazing well russ you mentioned at the top of the podcast you have a james bond watch now so if anyone at en world is able to do such a thing i believe it will be you so i'm sure the watch has all those features that you just mentioned a really close look it's a nice one it's very nice Can we talk about those dragons, though?
How about them dragons?
How about them dragons?
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Like that painterly style that you'll see in all D&D books, especially across 2025. Yeah.
Like that painterly style that you'll see in all D&D books, especially across 2025. Yeah.
This is a much more sort of... Graphical sort of style.
This is a much more sort of... Graphical sort of style.
But yeah, I mean, if you're listening to the podcast, all of these are on enworld.org, so you can go have a look. But yeah, I was really intrigued. They went this direction of doing a different art style, which I think is interesting and fun. And I really like the art pieces.
But yeah, I mean, if you're listening to the podcast, all of these are on enworld.org, so you can go have a look. But yeah, I was really intrigued. They went this direction of doing a different art style, which I think is interesting and fun. And I really like the art pieces.
I think it's enabling to work with different artists and give them a lot more free reign because there's not that burden of having a cohesive single image, which you get in other books. Yeah, I think it was an interesting choice.
I think it's enabling to work with different artists and give them a lot more free reign because there's not that burden of having a cohesive single image, which you get in other books. Yeah, I think it was an interesting choice.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, and dragon is a bit of a catch-all word that means different things in different cultures because most cultures have some sort of dragon situation. Like if you look at the Welsh dragon to a classic Germanic dragon or like a Chinese dragon, they're all quite different. But we all use the term dragon. So it's one of those interesting mythology things. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, and dragon is a bit of a catch-all word that means different things in different cultures because most cultures have some sort of dragon situation. Like if you look at the Welsh dragon to a classic Germanic dragon or like a Chinese dragon, they're all quite different. But we all use the term dragon. So it's one of those interesting mythology things. Yeah.
Circle casting.
Circle casting.
Yeah, I don't know anything about it. So I was wondering if you could tell me more about what it was like before, because we don't have the full details of what circle casting will look like.
Yeah, I don't know anything about it. So I was wondering if you could tell me more about what it was like before, because we don't have the full details of what circle casting will look like.
I love this. I love this concept.
I love this. I love this concept.
I hope so. I mean, I'm intrigued by it. I think it's really nice for world building, the fact that that exists. And I mean, how nice would it be to set up a fight where you're going in to break up the bad guys doing this ritual so you can have this fight going on, trying to interrupt it.
I hope so. I mean, I'm intrigued by it. I think it's really nice for world building, the fact that that exists. And I mean, how nice would it be to set up a fight where you're going in to break up the bad guys doing this ritual so you can have this fight going on, trying to interrupt it.
Or even that you're trying to do a ritual or some people, your allies are, and part of this fight scene is you protecting them so that people can't stop it. So I think there's some nice world building and role play moments beyond the mechanical benefits of doing this as well.
Or even that you're trying to do a ritual or some people, your allies are, and part of this fight scene is you protecting them so that people can't stop it. So I think there's some nice world building and role play moments beyond the mechanical benefits of doing this as well.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, really? What's this?
Oh, really? What's this?
Right, yes.
Right, yes.
Yeah. It looks interesting. Definitely. Sure.
Yeah. It looks interesting. Definitely. Sure.
That's nice. Cause it's the starter one you're talking about there. Yeah. It's designed to be. Yeah. Yeah, so that sounds ideal because obviously sometimes you have a group of people and they're like, oh, we all want to try it. None of us have GM, none of us have played. So it really puts the burden on the person that volunteers to be the GM starting out in a group like that.
That's nice. Cause it's the starter one you're talking about there. Yeah. It's designed to be. Yeah. Yeah, so that sounds ideal because obviously sometimes you have a group of people and they're like, oh, we all want to try it. None of us have GM, none of us have played. So it really puts the burden on the person that volunteers to be the GM starting out in a group like that.
So I think that's a nice idea that it's like, well, we can take turns and share the load. That sounds good. I like that approach. It seems a smart approach, the way it will be used.
So I think that's a nice idea that it's like, well, we can take turns and share the load. That sounds good. I like that approach. It seems a smart approach, the way it will be used.
That one makes sense because Daggerheart's their new thing. So it makes sense they do a series on that because that is, they've described, designed for campaign play, isn't it?
That one makes sense because Daggerheart's their new thing. So it makes sense they do a series on that because that is, they've described, designed for campaign play, isn't it?
Yes. So we mentioned a bit about the circle casting, but what else do we know?
Yes. So we mentioned a bit about the circle casting, but what else do we know?
Love that.
Love that.
That sounds interesting.
That sounds interesting.
Oh, good. Because that's what I was most interested in.
Oh, good. Because that's what I was most interested in.
Well, that does sound fun. What is it? Yeah. So as a fighter, you can have like a companion dragon.
Well, that does sound fun. What is it? Yeah. So as a fighter, you can have like a companion dragon.
That sounds very cool, though.
That sounds very cool, though.
Yes, no, definitely. So how does this... Mechanically, what does that mean? You just suspend an action to get your dragon to do a thing? Yeah, probably.
Yes, no, definitely. So how does this... Mechanically, what does that mean? You just suspend an action to get your dragon to do a thing? Yeah, probably.
Good. Okay, cool. Sorry, when you said you read up on it, I was ready to ask you a question.
Good. Okay, cool. Sorry, when you said you read up on it, I was ready to ask you a question.
yeah because i always like because i know people get down on the fighter they're like oh it's the boring class to have but i really enjoy playing a fighter and i think it's nice because like there's loads of like different feats and things you can do and your turns are generally quite full because you get multi-attack and you can get different options to do other things and action search so you can end up doing loads of stuff on one turn and that can make it really fun and strategic so i'm always interested when there's new kind of uh sub subclasses and stuff for a fighter so i'm
yeah because i always like because i know people get down on the fighter they're like oh it's the boring class to have but i really enjoy playing a fighter and i think it's nice because like there's loads of like different feats and things you can do and your turns are generally quite full because you get multi-attack and you can get different options to do other things and action search so you can end up doing loads of stuff on one turn and that can make it really fun and strategic so i'm always interested when there's new kind of uh sub subclasses and stuff for a fighter so i'm
I'll read up on that and maybe bring some opinions next week because I haven't read through it yet.
I'll read up on that and maybe bring some opinions next week because I haven't read through it yet.
The Skion, I think it's pronounced, isn't it?
The Skion, I think it's pronounced, isn't it?
The scone. Okay, the scone.
The scone. Okay, the scone.
Yeah, the scone of the three. Got it.
Yeah, the scone of the three. Got it.
What's Spellfire? I'm not familiar.
What's Spellfire? I'm not familiar.
Oh, dangerous.
Oh, dangerous.
Nice.
Nice.
Sounds sassy. I like it.
Sounds sassy. I like it.
A Bladesinger. So they can construct a blade and magically stab people with it?
A Bladesinger. So they can construct a blade and magically stab people with it?
Oh, okay. So it's bringing in like a melee effect with a wizard.
Oh, okay. So it's bringing in like a melee effect with a wizard.
Okay.
Okay.
As we talked about before, any TTRPG media, if you have the phrase Dungeons & Dragons in, does better. So even videos that talk about non-D&D videos, like on TikTok or social media, will have the hashtag D&D in it just to give it that boost because that's just...
As we talked about before, any TTRPG media, if you have the phrase Dungeons & Dragons in, does better. So even videos that talk about non-D&D videos, like on TikTok or social media, will have the hashtag D&D in it just to give it that boost because that's just...
Cool. We should read up on this. We should read up on this.
Cool. We should read up on this. We should read up on this.
This week has been quite a lot of news on D&D, and we haven't even got to the Monster Manual videos yet, which I have washed.
This week has been quite a lot of news on D&D, and we haven't even got to the Monster Manual videos yet, which I have washed.
I have washed them, yes. I cleaned the videos, scrubbed them all.
I have washed them, yes. I cleaned the videos, scrubbed them all.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay. I won't get too excited then.
Okay. I won't get too excited then.
Oh, okay. So it's not just going to be... Okay, that's interesting.
Oh, okay. So it's not just going to be... Okay, that's interesting.
Nice.
Nice.
When you're saying we, it's all you. You've got the watch.
When you're saying we, it's all you. You've got the watch.
Yeah, you've got the James Bond watch. I've not got a James Bond watch.
Yeah, you've got the James Bond watch. I've not got a James Bond watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a burden with great power.
It's a burden with great power.
They're teasing new campaign settings. They haven't told us about it, but they're going to do something new. So we're not just revisiting and reimagining existing places that we know about. They're thinking of innovating and financing.
They're teasing new campaign settings. They haven't told us about it, but they're going to do something new. So we're not just revisiting and reimagining existing places that we know about. They're thinking of innovating and financing.
I'll be interested to see. What they come up with.
I'll be interested to see. What they come up with.
Yeah, because a lot of the campaigns from the 5B have been ways to link your planes. Like, there was the... What is that? That Place with Many Doors. I forgot what it's called, that book.
Yeah, because a lot of the campaigns from the 5B have been ways to link your planes. Like, there was the... What is that? That Place with Many Doors. I forgot what it's called, that book.
So it's been places like that which link different realms and things like that. There's been a lot of that happening.
So it's been places like that which link different realms and things like that. There's been a lot of that happening.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I know what you mean. The NeverEnding Staircase.
No, I know what you mean. The NeverEnding Staircase.
Infinite Staircase. That's the one.
Infinite Staircase. That's the one.
Yes. The heist book is not a heist book. But yeah, a lot of them were linking the idea of linking the realms. And I think that was a way to give people tools and the freedom to explore all the different realms in the worlds within your world. And it'd be consistent and make sense.
Yes. The heist book is not a heist book. But yeah, a lot of them were linking the idea of linking the realms. And I think that was a way to give people tools and the freedom to explore all the different realms in the worlds within your world. And it'd be consistent and make sense.
So I don't have my usual hype person. PJ is away this week. They are at a gaming convention.
So I don't have my usual hype person. PJ is away this week. They are at a gaming convention.
But yeah, I'm intrigued to see that they'll have new stuff. I'm interested to see what they think about it. But again, I always come back to a lot of people I know enjoy making their own world and their own lore. So I wonder how needed it is because a lot of people... I mean, coming up with a creative idea in a world is...
But yeah, I'm intrigued to see that they'll have new stuff. I'm interested to see what they think about it. But again, I always come back to a lot of people I know enjoy making their own world and their own lore. So I wonder how needed it is because a lot of people... I mean, coming up with a creative idea in a world is...
you know, it's fun to, it's a fun bit of doing it and having the tools that you need as a GM that support you to, you know, to build that out and the stats and stuff like that is, is I think what people use.
you know, it's fun to, it's a fun bit of doing it and having the tools that you need as a GM that support you to, you know, to build that out and the stats and stuff like that is, is I think what people use.
I'd like to see a Daggerheart series. I haven't played the game and I don't know a huge amount about it. And I do like watching people play to learn a game. I mean, playing it myself is the best way, but, you know.
I'd like to see a Daggerheart series. I haven't played the game and I don't know a huge amount about it. And I do like watching people play to learn a game. I mean, playing it myself is the best way, but, you know.
Yes. It's like steampunky and yeah.
Yes. It's like steampunky and yeah.
Like a sci-fi theme.
Like a sci-fi theme.
You know, that would be, That would be different.
You know, that would be, That would be different.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah, we don't know. This is pure speculation on our part because they have not told us. But as soon as we do hear more, we will share it here, dear listener.
Yeah, we don't know. This is pure speculation on our part because they have not told us. But as soon as we do hear more, we will share it here, dear listener.
Yes, there is, which looks quite cool.
Yes, there is, which looks quite cool.
Discuss.
Discuss.
Yeah. So there's an existing world and lore around that.
Yeah. So there's an existing world and lore around that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's not in the Dungeons and Dragons universe, multiverse plan thing.
That's not in the Dungeons and Dragons universe, multiverse plan thing.
We're on the internet. We'll be corrected if we're wrong.
We're on the internet. We'll be corrected if we're wrong.
Next week. Today is the 31st of January.
Next week. Today is the 31st of January.
Today is Friday. Tuesday.
Today is Friday. Tuesday.
You've been quite tired today.
You've been quite tired today.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we're giving people the dates, so they'll be able to figure it out if they experience time in a linear fashion.
Well, we're giving people the dates, so they'll be able to figure it out if they experience time in a linear fashion.
that make sense i wouldn't be i don't know but i've noticed that the spin-off series you're talking about i've just was just reading about it and brennan lee mulligan is leading that one and matt is a cast member so i'm intrigued to watch that because i i like seeing matt as a player because everyone knows him as a gm and stuff but it's interesting seeing him as a player as well yeah yeah well that's pretty soon so uh i don't know will you be staying there to watch the 8.5 hour finale
that make sense i wouldn't be i don't know but i've noticed that the spin-off series you're talking about i've just was just reading about it and brennan lee mulligan is leading that one and matt is a cast member so i'm intrigued to watch that because i i like seeing matt as a player because everyone knows him as a gm and stuff but it's interesting seeing him as a player as well yeah yeah well that's pretty soon so uh i don't know will you be staying there to watch the 8.5 hour finale
It looks very undead-y zombie-themed as well.
It looks very undead-y zombie-themed as well.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
So what this is, so the Monster Manual, as we talked about, is coming out in February. Is February 18th the official date? I know it's available earlier from friendly local gaming stores. But yeah, we've been getting more and more videos about the new D&D Monster Manual coming out. And they have three videos about the Fae, the Giants, and the Celestials.
So what this is, so the Monster Manual, as we talked about, is coming out in February. Is February 18th the official date? I know it's available earlier from friendly local gaming stores. But yeah, we've been getting more and more videos about the new D&D Monster Manual coming out. And they have three videos about the Fae, the Giants, and the Celestials.
I have watched the first two about the Fae and the Giants. And honestly, I didn't... I mean, they didn't give me much more information that I already knew from the press releases and what we said here already on the podcast about it. I think it's basically like a promo.
I have watched the first two about the Fae and the Giants. And honestly, I didn't... I mean, they didn't give me much more information that I already knew from the press releases and what we said here already on the podcast about it. I think it's basically like a promo.
If you prefer to digest your news via video format, then this is a good way to do that instead of reading because I'd already read a lot of stuff. So, yeah, so they talked about the Fae and obviously a lot of creatures have been reclassified from humanoid to Fae, like the goblins and things like that. And they did acknowledge that some people were unhappy about this because of Hull's person,
If you prefer to digest your news via video format, then this is a good way to do that instead of reading because I'd already read a lot of stuff. So, yeah, so they talked about the Fae and obviously a lot of creatures have been reclassified from humanoid to Fae, like the goblins and things like that. And they did acknowledge that some people were unhappy about this because of Hull's person,
with humanoids who can you use that on and there's other spells that specifically target humanoids and then obviously that doesn't count for them anymore they did point out that there are far more humanoid creatures than fey in the in the manual still so it's you know it's not like the whole person spell is now hold no one doesn't work Well, that's not what they said.
with humanoids who can you use that on and there's other spells that specifically target humanoids and then obviously that doesn't count for them anymore they did point out that there are far more humanoid creatures than fey in the in the manual still so it's you know it's not like the whole person spell is now hold no one doesn't work Well, that's not what they said.
But the hold no one spell sounds very sad as well. It sounds like you're cursing someone. Your life will be you will hold no one. It's like you'll be forever alone. They do talk about hags.
But the hold no one spell sounds very sad as well. It sounds like you're cursing someone. Your life will be you will hold no one. It's like you'll be forever alone. They do talk about hags.
okay uh well they talked about hags a lot as well which i like because i do love i do like a hag i you know i relate to them some powerful women just trying to live their lives uh girl bosses if you will um and they talked about this um arch uh hag which sounded really cool so she has
okay uh well they talked about hags a lot as well which i like because i do love i do like a hag i you know i relate to them some powerful women just trying to live their lives uh girl bosses if you will um and they talked about this um arch uh hag which sounded really cool so she has
an ability where even if you kill her get her down to zero health she has the ability to kind of get away she's only permanently dead if she has her well i've forgotten the term for it special item that each hag has um if that's near them then they'll be permanently dead but if it's not they won't so it means for the fight you do have to do some like research and it's individual to each hag so it could be you know
an ability where even if you kill her get her down to zero health she has the ability to kind of get away she's only permanently dead if she has her well i've forgotten the term for it special item that each hag has um if that's near them then they'll be permanently dead but if it's not they won't so it means for the fight you do have to do some like research and it's individual to each hag so it could be you know
whatever their little special item is. So it gives the option to have reoccurring fights, and also they've really gone heavy on the ability of hags to curse people and do things.
whatever their little special item is. So it gives the option to have reoccurring fights, and also they've really gone heavy on the ability of hags to curse people and do things.
Another thing is if your party kills a hag, an arch-hag even, sorry, but doesn't permanently kill her, she's got this vengeful ability where she can curse you, and for as long as she's alive, you have this permanent curse. So it means you'll have to go back and deal with her properly at some point.
Another thing is if your party kills a hag, an arch-hag even, sorry, but doesn't permanently kill her, she's got this vengeful ability where she can curse you, and for as long as she's alive, you have this permanent curse. So it means you'll have to go back and deal with her properly at some point.
Yeah, so I like that.
Yeah, so I like that.
They didn't say exactly what it was. I think there's a range. There's options so that you can, you know, style your type of fae with that. And they talked about the fae wild and... Yeah. Oh, somebody says it's called an anathema in the comments. Yeah, that's the thing that the hags have. But yeah, so that was quite interesting talking about the fae.
They didn't say exactly what it was. I think there's a range. There's options so that you can, you know, style your type of fae with that. And they talked about the fae wild and... Yeah. Oh, somebody says it's called an anathema in the comments. Yeah, that's the thing that the hags have. But yeah, so that was quite interesting talking about the fae.
The hag bit jumped out at me because that was what's interesting.
The hag bit jumped out at me because that was what's interesting.
But yeah, and it was kind of, they talked about how the fae wild is quite different and scary and they wanted to bring different elements in, which is why they brought the goblins in and wargs, any kind of animal that was a beast before that has the ability to kind of talk in that way, they've made into a fae because they feel like there's something
But yeah, and it was kind of, they talked about how the fae wild is quite different and scary and they wanted to bring different elements in, which is why they brought the goblins in and wargs, any kind of animal that was a beast before that has the ability to kind of talk in that way, they've made into a fae because they feel like there's something
fey touched about them and things yeah um but yes that was quite interesting um then they talked a lot about giants and how they've re-approached um them because they wanted to make them feel they're not giant anymore they're still pretty big so they feel big and they feel epic and they talked about the different artwork approaches because like they wanted to make because you know you have different classifications like stone giants and cloud giants they wanted to make their abilities feel more thematic based on where they're from
fey touched about them and things yeah um but yes that was quite interesting um then they talked a lot about giants and how they've re-approached um them because they wanted to make them feel they're not giant anymore they're still pretty big so they feel big and they feel epic and they talked about the different artwork approaches because like they wanted to make because you know you have different classifications like stone giants and cloud giants they wanted to make their abilities feel more thematic based on where they're from
Do you know, no, because I've not watched the whole previous series. So I don't think I should jump in at this point. Loads of my friends really love Critical Role Show and they have it on like while they're working and studying, like kind of your part watching whilst you're doing something.
Do you know, no, because I've not watched the whole previous series. So I don't think I should jump in at this point. Loads of my friends really love Critical Role Show and they have it on like while they're working and studying, like kind of your part watching whilst you're doing something.
So it's not just a, you know, a title. And they did a nice thing with the stone giants where they've changed up the artwork because historically they're just like gray slabs that when you think of stone, but in real life stones are all sorts of different colors that you have sandstone and gradient. So the artwork they've made them more like that so that they can blend into the environment.
So it's not just a, you know, a title. And they did a nice thing with the stone giants where they've changed up the artwork because historically they're just like gray slabs that when you think of stone, but in real life stones are all sorts of different colors that you have sandstone and gradient. So the artwork they've made them more like that so that they can blend into the environment.
So you could be, Yeah, so you could have, like, White Cliffs of Dover-style stone giants and stuff.
So you could be, Yeah, so you could have, like, White Cliffs of Dover-style stone giants and stuff.
Yes, exactly. That was it. So they have, like, gradients that you see on, like, big rock faces. So it means there's more variety within them, so you could make them more suited to your world and campaign. And they've changed up the stat blocks to try and make them feel a bit more epic in certain places and big. So it's like, whoa, this is really a big, colossal thing.
Yes, exactly. That was it. So they have, like, gradients that you see on, like, big rock faces. So it means there's more variety within them, so you could make them more suited to your world and campaign. And they've changed up the stat blocks to try and make them feel a bit more epic in certain places and big. So it's like, whoa, this is really a big, colossal thing.
So, yeah, they talked through that. And I haven't had a chance to look at the Celestials video yet.
So, yeah, they talked through that. And I haven't had a chance to look at the Celestials video yet.
Yeah, link to all three in the show notes if you want to have a look. I watched it on 1.5 because for me they were talking a bit slow. But I think that's a me thing and my attention issues more than them. But yeah, there was nice artwork in there.
Yeah, link to all three in the show notes if you want to have a look. I watched it on 1.5 because for me they were talking a bit slow. But I think that's a me thing and my attention issues more than them. But yeah, there was nice artwork in there.
A lot of the artwork I'd already seen in the written press releases and on the EM World you did a big article with all the artwork we've seen for the Monster Mania so far. So I didn't see any new artwork in there myself.
A lot of the artwork I'd already seen in the written press releases and on the EM World you did a big article with all the artwork we've seen for the Monster Mania so far. So I didn't see any new artwork in there myself.
but it was really interesting to have a look for if you are thinking of getting the monster manual might be worthwhile looking at and they're about like 20 15 minutes long um if you're interested but yeah so i watched those uh i wasn't most intrigued by the fey one which is why i've talked more about it because i find fey wild adventures fun and interesting i like a bit of fey i grew up welsh and you know with uh with welsh folklore around the fey so yeah
but it was really interesting to have a look for if you are thinking of getting the monster manual might be worthwhile looking at and they're about like 20 15 minutes long um if you're interested but yeah so i watched those uh i wasn't most intrigued by the fey one which is why i've talked more about it because i find fey wild adventures fun and interesting i like a bit of fey i grew up welsh and you know with uh with welsh folklore around the fey so yeah
And I was tempted to do some of that and watch it whilst I'm doing like admin because I've got some fun finance stuff to do in the next few weeks for us. And while I was doing that, I thought it might be nice to have something on to kind of,
And I was tempted to do some of that and watch it whilst I'm doing like admin because I've got some fun finance stuff to do in the next few weeks for us. And while I was doing that, I thought it might be nice to have something on to kind of,
I think we're done as well. I think that's all the news we have. So, yeah. So next week will be a busy week. We'll have more information, I'm sure, on the Monster Manual. Yeah.
I think we're done as well. I think that's all the news we have. So, yeah. So next week will be a busy week. We'll have more information, I'm sure, on the Monster Manual. Yeah.
Well, on that note, shall we end the show?
Well, on that note, shall we end the show?
We'll go and do the weekend. We'll be back, of course, next week. You can listen to the podcast wherever you're listening to it, if you're listening to it now. And we live stream every Friday at 2pm UK time.
We'll go and do the weekend. We'll be back, of course, next week. You can listen to the podcast wherever you're listening to it, if you're listening to it now. And we live stream every Friday at 2pm UK time.
Yes. But 9am Eastern time is the time we'll be recorded live as well.
Yes. But 9am Eastern time is the time we'll be recorded live as well.
But we live in the UK. So, yeah.
But we live in the UK. So, yeah.
So I prefer not to. That makes sense. That makes sense. Anyway, so shall we head off now so we can go have a weekend? Thank you very much for watching and listening. We'll see you next week. And we will have PJ Coffey back with us then as well.
So I prefer not to. That makes sense. That makes sense. Anyway, so shall we head off now so we can go have a weekend? Thank you very much for watching and listening. We'll see you next week. And we will have PJ Coffey back with us then as well.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
yeah so I might start doing that because there's like hours and hours but it's a bit intimidating because there's so much yeah I mean my difficulty with it is you have to put aside so many hours just to watch an episode yeah just don't have that much time in my life Yeah, that's why I think it's got to be done whilst you're doing something.
yeah so I might start doing that because there's like hours and hours but it's a bit intimidating because there's so much yeah I mean my difficulty with it is you have to put aside so many hours just to watch an episode yeah just don't have that much time in my life Yeah, that's why I think it's got to be done whilst you're doing something.
Do you know what does not surprise me?
Do you know what does not surprise me?
All right, well, that's Critical Role. That is Critical Role. February 6th, that is, the 8.5-hour episode. Yeah. On all their various platforms. What do you want to talk about next?
All right, well, that's Critical Role. That is Critical Role. February 6th, that is, the 8.5-hour episode. Yeah. On all their various platforms. What do you want to talk about next?
Universal Fan Fest. Discuss.
Universal Fan Fest. Discuss.
And you had to, like, carry a certain amount of weight constantly all day for your gift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember this. Yeah, OK.
And you had to, like, carry a certain amount of weight constantly all day for your gift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember this. Yeah, OK.
Knock on to PJ. Instead of talking about RPGs, they're actually playing them this weekend. I hope they're a nice time and they can tell us all about it next week.
Knock on to PJ. Instead of talking about RPGs, they're actually playing them this weekend. I hope they're a nice time and they can tell us all about it next week.
Wow, so that'll be good.
Wow, so that'll be good.
That does sound fun. I like experience events and things like that. There's a company in the UK, Secret Cinema, that does stuff like that as well. And I always think they're quite fun.
That does sound fun. I like experience events and things like that. There's a company in the UK, Secret Cinema, that does stuff like that as well. And I always think they're quite fun.
Oh, yeah, that one looked cool. I did the Star Wars one. That was very cool.
Oh, yeah, that one looked cool. I did the Star Wars one. That was very cool.
It is good. When and where are these things happening then? Um...
It is good. When and where are these things happening then? Um...
Let me have a look.
Let me have a look.
I think it's like the US.
I think it's like the US.
And I was going to wonder how much the tickets are as well.
And I was going to wonder how much the tickets are as well.
I did. I did. I had to be a normal human being because my partner had a lot of, like, work social things. So I had to go and hang out with people that aren't fascinated by games and tabletop RPGs.
I did. I did. I had to be a normal human being because my partner had a lot of, like, work social things. So I had to go and hang out with people that aren't fascinated by games and tabletop RPGs.
I mean, that makes sense, being a Universal Fan Fest night. So, yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, that makes sense, being a Universal Fan Fest night. So, yeah, that makes sense.
At Universal Studios. No, probably not. You know, maybe that was a silly question, really, being the Universal Fan Fest night. Of course, it would be at Universal Studios. Silly question. How much are the tickets, if you're there? Just out of curiosity.
At Universal Studios. No, probably not. You know, maybe that was a silly question, really, being the Universal Fan Fest night. Of course, it would be at Universal Studios. Silly question. How much are the tickets, if you're there? Just out of curiosity.
$373. Wow. Okay.
$373. Wow. Okay.
All right. So that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a big night out. Maybe like a birthday party or something like that. So that's what you can do every week. Yeah.
All right. So that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a big night out. Maybe like a birthday party or something like that. So that's what you can do every week. Yeah.
Or maybe the rich people listening to this podcast are like, what do you mean?
Or maybe the rich people listening to this podcast are like, what do you mean?
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everyone that lives in Hollywood is definitely rich.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Everyone that lives in Hollywood is definitely rich.
Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Well, that sounds cool. I think it's nice that stuff like that's happening. I don't really have much to say beyond that. I'm a bit too far away to go myself. But if anyone does go, write about it on the EM World forums and let us know how it is.
Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Well, that sounds cool. I think it's nice that stuff like that's happening. I don't really have much to say beyond that. I'm a bit too far away to go myself. But if anyone does go, write about it on the EM World forums and let us know how it is.
Because it sounds cool.
Because it sounds cool.
Yes, that would be very cool. I like that. Because I like my Star Trek. I do like a bit of Star Trek as well.
Yes, that would be very cool. I like that. Because I like my Star Trek. I do like a bit of Star Trek as well.
me do one um all right so dnd adjacent but not actually about the monsters that's the brief right now isn't it um oh right okay i'm gonna talk about that dnd movie so we went to see the dnd movie it was just like two years ago
me do one um all right so dnd adjacent but not actually about the monsters that's the brief right now isn't it um oh right okay i'm gonna talk about that dnd movie so we went to see the dnd movie it was just like two years ago
A different world, yeah. You, me and PJ went to cinema and watched it. I really enjoyed the film. It was like honour amongst thieves.
A different world, yeah. You, me and PJ went to cinema and watched it. I really enjoyed the film. It was like honour amongst thieves.
It felt like a D&D campaign. It had some nice callbacks to like D&D mechanics and things parties do. You know, like the getting the questions for the Speak With Dead and stuff like that. It was quite funny and... Jonathan as well because we've all accidentally named an NPC something stupid and just had to run with it.
It felt like a D&D campaign. It had some nice callbacks to like D&D mechanics and things parties do. You know, like the getting the questions for the Speak With Dead and stuff like that. It was quite funny and... Jonathan as well because we've all accidentally named an NPC something stupid and just had to run with it.
Yeah, I know, which is rubbish. Yeah, and they're all like adults with serious jobs. And so, you know, like we had a meeting about flumps on Tuesday, for example. That's our work week.
Yeah, I know, which is rubbish. Yeah, and they're all like adults with serious jobs. And so, you know, like we had a meeting about flumps on Tuesday, for example. That's our work week.
So clearly that bird is meant to be called Jonathan and they mispronounced it Jonathan. Yeah, things like that. But I think financially in the terms of movies, it didn't do as well as they wanted. So... Yes, but Wizard of the Coast apparently has made a statement saying they're exploring the possibility of new D&D movie and TV projects. So it'd be like a D&D cinematic universe plan.
So clearly that bird is meant to be called Jonathan and they mispronounced it Jonathan. Yeah, things like that. But I think financially in the terms of movies, it didn't do as well as they wanted. So... Yes, but Wizard of the Coast apparently has made a statement saying they're exploring the possibility of new D&D movie and TV projects. So it'd be like a D&D cinematic universe plan.
That doesn't mean there's any... Oh, no, there's nothing... Nothing's planned, but they're exploring the possibility, which is, you know... So there was going to be a TV show, wasn't there?
That doesn't mean there's any... Oh, no, there's nothing... Nothing's planned, but they're exploring the possibility, which is, you know... So there was going to be a TV show, wasn't there?
That's true, yes.
That's true, yes.
Yes. So I thought that was going to be the end of that, really.
Yes. So I thought that was going to be the end of that, really.
Yeah. Well, maybe that's following because the Secret Levels series, they had a D&D episode. And I thought that was really good. I really enjoyed that.
Yeah. Well, maybe that's following because the Secret Levels series, they had a D&D episode. And I thought that was really good. I really enjoyed that.
So I'm wondering if they're thinking instead of having our own entertainment studio, if we just partner with others and, you know, give them a license. And then I guess it's less risk for them, isn't it, financially, if it's just a licensing thing?
So I'm wondering if they're thinking instead of having our own entertainment studio, if we just partner with others and, you know, give them a license. And then I guess it's less risk for them, isn't it, financially, if it's just a licensing thing?
I would like to see it more. I like seeing RPGs be more mainstream because it just makes it more accessible and makes it more likely that other cool people are going to join our hobby.
I would like to see it more. I like seeing RPGs be more mainstream because it just makes it more accessible and makes it more likely that other cool people are going to join our hobby.
An animated series, something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
An animated series, something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe an animated movie.
Maybe an animated movie.
Yeah. Maybe.
Yeah. Maybe.
Well, that we do not know.
Well, that we do not know.
Because it's animated and you have an issue with that.
Because it's animated and you have an issue with that.
Yeah, we did.
Yeah, we did.
Okay. I'm allergic. I'm sorry to hear that. Anyway. All right, Tag, you're at your turn. Do you have any news, which is technically about D&D, but is not related to the D&D Monster Mansion?
Okay. I'm allergic. I'm sorry to hear that. Anyway. All right, Tag, you're at your turn. Do you have any news, which is technically about D&D, but is not related to the D&D Monster Mansion?
Okay.
Okay.
It's the best way to get them in on an attack. But yeah, like so, you know, other normal people with regular sensible grown-up jobs don't really relate to that. So I had to, you know, put on my grown-up face.
It's the best way to get them in on an attack. But yeah, like so, you know, other normal people with regular sensible grown-up jobs don't really relate to that. So I had to, you know, put on my grown-up face.
Brilliant. I love a pet.
Brilliant. I love a pet.
Yeah, a woman with six arms is a good description, yeah.
Yeah, a woman with six arms is a good description, yeah.
I don't, no.
I don't, no.
Interesting. I don't have strong opinions about it, to be honest.
Interesting. I don't have strong opinions about it, to be honest.
Speaking of things to behold, shall I do that?
Speaking of things to behold, shall I do that?
Yeah, you know the thing I'm talking about. I do. So the week's most important piece of news is this image that I'm putting on the stream. So WizKids is doing a potato head Beholder miniature. If you can't see the visual on the screen because you're listening to the podcast, it looks exactly what you think a potato head Beholder miniature would look like. Yeah.
Yeah, you know the thing I'm talking about. I do. So the week's most important piece of news is this image that I'm putting on the stream. So WizKids is doing a potato head Beholder miniature. If you can't see the visual on the screen because you're listening to the podcast, it looks exactly what you think a potato head Beholder miniature would look like. Yeah.
If you want to go for a horror aesthetic, this is the way.
If you want to go for a horror aesthetic, this is the way.
Anyway, so because Hasbro owns the Potato Head range as the trailer and they own Wizard of the Coast, I guess this is a natural progression.
Anyway, so because Hasbro owns the Potato Head range as the trailer and they own Wizard of the Coast, I guess this is a natural progression.
I've heard of it, not hugely familiar with it.
I've heard of it, not hugely familiar with it.
Yeah, I think it's less shiny good heroes and a bit more... It's quite gory, yeah. Gritty, gory. Not quite the boys, but it's looking in that direction.
Yeah, I think it's less shiny good heroes and a bit more... It's quite gory, yeah. Gritty, gory. Not quite the boys, but it's looking in that direction.
It's looking in that direction from what I understand. Okay, cool. I'm on board.
It's looking in that direction from what I understand. Okay, cool. I'm on board.
This is interesting because this feels, I mean, Free League has a lot of licenses, as we know. But this feels different from other Free League licenses in terms of like art style, visual and tone. I'm sure they'll do a good job, but it does feel like a, because the other things feel in the same sort of genre.
This is interesting because this feels, I mean, Free League has a lot of licenses, as we know. But this feels different from other Free League licenses in terms of like art style, visual and tone. I'm sure they'll do a good job, but it does feel like a, because the other things feel in the same sort of genre.
Like you've got Blade Runner and you've got The Walking Dead and Massive and they're all a bit darker scale, a bit more gloomy, you know, things. But this is Superheroes, but different genres.
Like you've got Blade Runner and you've got The Walking Dead and Massive and they're all a bit darker scale, a bit more gloomy, you know, things. But this is Superheroes, but different genres.
Yeah, but it's not grounded gritty reality. And I know The Walking Dead has zombies in. It is grounded reality, yeah, of course.
Yeah, but it's not grounded gritty reality. And I know The Walking Dead has zombies in. It is grounded reality, yeah, of course.
I guess we'll find out I guess I mean I'll definitely check that out I'm very interested maybe I'll get them on not D&D to have a chat about yeah I read the comic books hmm
I guess we'll find out I guess I mean I'll definitely check that out I'm very interested maybe I'll get them on not D&D to have a chat about yeah I read the comic books hmm
Should I steer it back to more D&D news? Because we've run away.
Should I steer it back to more D&D news? Because we've run away.
Whose turn? Mine?
Whose turn? Mine?
Oh, Peter. Sorry. Me?
Oh, Peter. Sorry. Me?
Dungeons and or Dragons, maybe both, they are doing a here playtest again, which they are willing to do.
Dungeons and or Dragons, maybe both, they are doing a here playtest again, which they are willing to do.
Yeah, Unearthed Arcana. So there's one for an Eberron-themed playtest. So that's up on D&D Beyond. So if you are watching or listening, you can go to D&D Beyond and download and check that out. But yeah, it's an Eberron-themed playtest. And it's got like Dragonmark feats and loads of Eberron-y stuff for the new edition of 5e.
Yeah, Unearthed Arcana. So there's one for an Eberron-themed playtest. So that's up on D&D Beyond. So if you are watching or listening, you can go to D&D Beyond and download and check that out. But yeah, it's an Eberron-themed playtest. And it's got like Dragonmark feats and loads of Eberron-y stuff for the new edition of 5e.
Well, someone in the chat has left a comment saying they said their first impression is they can't update the drivers of their graphic card to run the launcher.
Well, someone in the chat has left a comment saying they said their first impression is they can't update the drivers of their graphic card to run the launcher.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Dragon marks are a big deal in the Eberron lore. I'm in an Eberron campaign at the moment, and it's a thing that I'm learning about.
Yeah. Dragon marks are a big deal in the Eberron lore. I'm in an Eberron campaign at the moment, and it's a thing that I'm learning about.
I'm enjoying it. It's fun. But I don't know if that's just the table and the people I'm playing with is why I'm enjoying it more than the setting, to be honest. That's always a big factor. But one of the players is playing it in Artificer, so I might get their opinion on the new version because I've not played one myself, so I don't really know how to compare, contrast, and comment.
I'm enjoying it. It's fun. But I don't know if that's just the table and the people I'm playing with is why I'm enjoying it more than the setting, to be honest. That's always a big factor. But one of the players is playing it in Artificer, so I might get their opinion on the new version because I've not played one myself, so I don't really know how to compare, contrast, and comment.
I mean, Hasbro won't come to your house or send the Pinkertons around to prevent you doing it, as far as we know.
I mean, Hasbro won't come to your house or send the Pinkertons around to prevent you doing it, as far as we know.
Well, because dragon marks are a thing in the Eberron world and part of the lore. So I think it's if you're part of this world and lore, they're linked to that thematically.
Well, because dragon marks are a thing in the Eberron world and part of the lore. So I think it's if you're part of this world and lore, they're linked to that thematically.
Well, like with anything, they can't stop you, Russ. They can't stop us.
Well, like with anything, they can't stop you, Russ. They can't stop us.
Any particular favourites or ones you thought were interesting? No. Not really. I haven't had a deep dive through it yet. But yeah.
Any particular favourites or ones you thought were interesting? No. Not really. I haven't had a deep dive through it yet. But yeah.
I'm wondering how much this will bring because I think last week we mentioned they were lowering the amount of automation that it had because people liked it less. But I wonder what value this brings beyond the basic maps feature they have in D&D Beyond.
I'm wondering how much this will bring because I think last week we mentioned they were lowering the amount of automation that it had because people liked it less. But I wonder what value this brings beyond the basic maps feature they have in D&D Beyond.
Yeah. I'm interested to see what changes they make. But like I said, I'm going to lean on my friend who plays that class and get them to have a look and hear their take on it. Because I think it's hard to appreciate the differences if you've not played that class regularly because you won't understand the nuances as much. But yeah, so I'm going to get the insight from them.
Yeah. I'm interested to see what changes they make. But like I said, I'm going to lean on my friend who plays that class and get them to have a look and hear their take on it. Because I think it's hard to appreciate the differences if you've not played that class regularly because you won't understand the nuances as much. But yeah, so I'm going to get the insight from them.
Yeah. And I'm sure they'll do more.
Yeah. And I'm sure they'll do more.
Yes. So this is a forecast.
Yes. So this is a forecast.
Yes.
Yes.
I believe so.
I believe so.
I remember Theros from Magic the Gathering because I was playing it at that time that came out. That was fun.
I remember Theros from Magic the Gathering because I was playing it at that time that came out. That was fun.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I don't want that one.
I don't want that one.
We've got some commenting. They said it's surprisingly functional for making maps, but the dice rolling is a bit clunky.
We've got some commenting. They said it's surprisingly functional for making maps, but the dice rolling is a bit clunky.
I look much better at night as well, yeah.
I look much better at night as well, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Nice.
Nice.
Watch us post. It makes sense that Magic the Gathering and D&D blend their worlds and stuff. That makes a lot of sense to me. I say less. I'm not playing Magic at the moment. There was a time about...
Watch us post. It makes sense that Magic the Gathering and D&D blend their worlds and stuff. That makes a lot of sense to me. I say less. I'm not playing Magic at the moment. There was a time about...
maybe 10 years ago where I was really into it and I was going to like pro tour qualifiers and stuff like that I didn't qualify just to be clear I wasn't good but I was enthusiastic but yeah I used to be very into it but yeah I have never played Magic the Gathering It's a very expensive and addictive hobby.
maybe 10 years ago where I was really into it and I was going to like pro tour qualifiers and stuff like that I didn't qualify just to be clear I wasn't good but I was enthusiastic but yeah I used to be very into it but yeah I have never played Magic the Gathering It's a very expensive and addictive hobby.
If you start... No, I'm not trying to. I'm sure I could if I wanted to, but I don't have the energy.
If you start... No, I'm not trying to. I'm sure I could if I wanted to, but I don't have the energy.
Okay.
Okay.
All right. So you say. But should we talk about some other bits of news then?
All right. So you say. But should we talk about some other bits of news then?
So this is fun. So Dimension 20. So they do, as people know, they're a big actual play and they do really high quality stuff on Dimension 20. And for their next season, they're merging with WWE. So Worldwide Wrestling or whatever it's called. But yeah, they're having a load of like famous wrestlers on to be the characters playing an RPG, which I think is really fun.
So this is fun. So Dimension 20. So they do, as people know, they're a big actual play and they do really high quality stuff on Dimension 20. And for their next season, they're merging with WWE. So Worldwide Wrestling or whatever it's called. But yeah, they're having a load of like famous wrestlers on to be the characters playing an RPG, which I think is really fun.
because they've done this with other things before, like they did Dungeons and Drag Queens where they had a load of popular drag queens from RuPaul's Drag Race come on and play games. And I think it's really great because these are generally people that aren't traditionally tabletop role players. And so they're from a different world, but they come in and play and have a really good time.
because they've done this with other things before, like they did Dungeons and Drag Queens where they had a load of popular drag queens from RuPaul's Drag Race come on and play games. And I think it's really great because these are generally people that aren't traditionally tabletop role players. And so they're from a different world, but they come in and play and have a really good time.
And I think it's really fun because it can welcome different fandoms into tabletop role playing games.
And I think it's really fun because it can welcome different fandoms into tabletop role playing games.
It'll be a season. So they do a little campaign, so several episodes. So it's a full season with all these wrestlers. I'm not into wrestling, so I don't particularly know these names of people. I know nothing about wrestling at all. But I like watching things like this because people from different fandoms bring a different perspective in.
It'll be a season. So they do a little campaign, so several episodes. So it's a full season with all these wrestlers. I'm not into wrestling, so I don't particularly know these names of people. I know nothing about wrestling at all. But I like watching things like this because people from different fandoms bring a different perspective in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I wonder if, because they know a lot more about fighting and that sort of thing, if they're going to bring that element to their role play as well.
And I wonder if, because they know a lot more about fighting and that sort of thing, if they're going to bring that element to their role play as well.
No, but I mean, their knowledge of it. Because maybe when they're describing their fights, they'll be a bit more descriptive. And I get them in a headlock called, I don't know, certain moves. Or they could say, oh, and like, you know, things like that. They can maybe bring into it because that's something they know.
No, but I mean, their knowledge of it. Because maybe when they're describing their fights, they'll be a bit more descriptive. And I get them in a headlock called, I don't know, certain moves. Or they could say, oh, and like, you know, things like that. They can maybe bring into it because that's something they know.
pile driver that's one that's one there's a pile driver i believe you i believe you but yeah that's so that's the next season of in dimension 20 that'll be coming out as well and there has been another season of dungeons and drag queens out for those that are interested in that as well which i have not seen but i do want to watch you know but yeah well that was a fun bit news like these actual plays and you see people from outside the hobby
pile driver that's one that's one there's a pile driver i believe you i believe you but yeah that's so that's the next season of in dimension 20 that'll be coming out as well and there has been another season of dungeons and drag queens out for those that are interested in that as well which i have not seen but i do want to watch you know but yeah well that was a fun bit news like these actual plays and you see people from outside the hobby
Yes. It's for everyone.
Yes. It's for everyone.
I like it also. So I thought I'd share that with you as well. Probably could.
I like it also. So I thought I'd share that with you as well. Probably could.
I'm intrigued. I've got to say, because of my obsession with Baldur's Gate 3, which I mentioned for the second time in this podcast this week, it has got me interested in playing these types of games digitally. So I think this is definitely something that I'm going to check out as well.
I'm intrigued. I've got to say, because of my obsession with Baldur's Gate 3, which I mentioned for the second time in this podcast this week, it has got me interested in playing these types of games digitally. So I think this is definitely something that I'm going to check out as well.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
I don't know anything about this company or the person running it either.
I don't know anything about this company or the person running it either.
Perhaps there's investigation.
Perhaps there's investigation.
Yes. No, absolutely. Otherwise, LegalLawyer77 will be emailing us.
Yes. No, absolutely. Otherwise, LegalLawyer77 will be emailing us.
I'm down.
I'm down.
I'm down visiting my parents this week. And actually, that's why I'm here. And I hadn't updated them on that whole situation. So I was just reiterating that part. This is very supportive family members. They, of course, don't listen to my podcasts that I do. So they missed the fun story. Yeah, I know. Well, what can you do when you do? But yeah.
I'm down visiting my parents this week. And actually, that's why I'm here. And I hadn't updated them on that whole situation. So I was just reiterating that part. This is very supportive family members. They, of course, don't listen to my podcasts that I do. So they missed the fun story. Yeah, I know. Well, what can you do when you do? But yeah.
Well, they thought it was very serious and obviously they're a very professional legal lawyer and any tabletop RPG company that solicited them for legal work must be taken very seriously.
Well, they thought it was very serious and obviously they're a very professional legal lawyer and any tabletop RPG company that solicited them for legal work must be taken very seriously.
Yes. It's not an illegal lawyer. That would be silly.
Yes. It's not an illegal lawyer. That would be silly.
Legal Lawyer 77 is way better.
Legal Lawyer 77 is way better.
I think it puts the emphasis on the legality of the situation.
I think it puts the emphasis on the legality of the situation.
Okay. Long time listening to this now.
Okay. Long time listening to this now.
Said they were going to sue us, but then were like, JK, not really.
Said they were going to sue us, but then were like, JK, not really.
The only thing I've got is about from Chaosium, but not the thing. I don't think this is the thing that you can't be embargoed about.
The only thing I've got is about from Chaosium, but not the thing. I don't think this is the thing that you can't be embargoed about.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about that.
But no one wants to say it's a new edition anymore.
But no one wants to say it's a new edition anymore.
I think we'll all live underwater.
I think we'll all live underwater.
Is it because he... Did he own the underwater city so everyone would have to go to him? As far as I was aware, all he had was one base.
Is it because he... Did he own the underwater city so everyone would have to go to him? As far as I was aware, all he had was one base.
That's valid. Yeah. I understand that.
That's valid. Yeah. I understand that.
I've forgotten how camp and wild some James Bond films are. Now you've said that.
I've forgotten how camp and wild some James Bond films are. Now you've said that.
I think clothes for your miniatures in the game.
I think clothes for your miniatures in the game.
Batman.
Batman.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a bit like Barbie dress up.
So a bit like Barbie dress up.
Well, there we go.
Well, there we go.
Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts and prayers.
Okay. Do we have any other tabletop RPG news? Because I am now tapped out.
Okay. Do we have any other tabletop RPG news? Because I am now tapped out.
I am. I am, PJ.
I am. I am, PJ.
A miniature that's not been painted. So maybe it's just grayscale. Because there's a miniature within it. Digitally, I guess there's a basic version where it's just a grayscale miniature. And then maybe different tiers can choose different colors and customizations for them.
A miniature that's not been painted. So maybe it's just grayscale. Because there's a miniature within it. Digitally, I guess there's a basic version where it's just a grayscale miniature. And then maybe different tiers can choose different colors and customizations for them.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
Who doesn't want that?
Who doesn't want that?
I'm going to take a look. I have a lot of these.
I'm going to take a look. I have a lot of these.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was looking through when you were saying. I was like, yeah, I think I've got them on my hard drive. At least digital, if not physical.
Yeah, I was looking through when you were saying. I was like, yeah, I think I've got them on my hard drive. At least digital, if not physical.
Someone said that there's a miniature creator within it.
Someone said that there's a miniature creator within it.
We do. Yes.
We do. Yes.
Yeah. There's a spell called Explosive Undead and it does exactly what you think it does.
Yeah. There's a spell called Explosive Undead and it does exactly what you think it does.
Yeah, but it's in this writhing codex book that your players can find, which is very cool.
Yeah, but it's in this writhing codex book that your players can find, which is very cool.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah.
Yeah, so it's like setting up that setting and putting it in. And it's got some, I pick this one out if you can't tell me my excitement, because there's some really interesting undead that do different things there. Because I know undead can get the reputation of being a bit passe and like, yeah, we've seen it before. But I think you can do really interesting stuff with that.
Yeah, so it's like setting up that setting and putting it in. And it's got some, I pick this one out if you can't tell me my excitement, because there's some really interesting undead that do different things there. Because I know undead can get the reputation of being a bit passe and like, yeah, we've seen it before. But I think you can do really interesting stuff with that.
And I think undead give the opportunity to make some of your players feel really cool. Like if you have clerics or if you have like rangers that have favored foe that is undead, stuff like this, putting this in gives them like a session where they can get to feel really cool and get to use their stuff. And so it's always nice to spotlight players and let them do stuff like that.
And I think undead give the opportunity to make some of your players feel really cool. Like if you have clerics or if you have like rangers that have favored foe that is undead, stuff like this, putting this in gives them like a session where they can get to feel really cool and get to use their stuff. And so it's always nice to spotlight players and let them do stuff like that.
So I think this is a really nice way to hand that to them. Yeah, it's just up for two weeks, and it's one of our quick ones where we give you the PDF the day the Kickstarter ends, and then you get the physical book the next month, because it's print-on-demand straight out to you.
So I think this is a really nice way to hand that to them. Yeah, it's just up for two weeks, and it's one of our quick ones where we give you the PDF the day the Kickstarter ends, and then you get the physical book the next month, because it's print-on-demand straight out to you.
Did Peter talk about my book yet?
Did Peter talk about my book yet?
Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes.
Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes.
Show notes for the podcast and I'll get PJ to just post it in the comments now. So if you're watching live on a toolkit, you can do.
Show notes for the podcast and I'll get PJ to just post it in the comments now. So if you're watching live on a toolkit, you can do.
I'll do it then.
I'll do it then.
No, no, that's fine. I'll do it. I got it.
No, no, that's fine. I'll do it. I got it.
So there's a back-up kit link in the comments for live, and it'll be in the comments for show notes if you are listening. And Secrets of the Grave link will be in the show notes as well, or it's on the front page of EMworld right now, if you're watching live.
So there's a back-up kit link in the comments for live, and it'll be in the comments for show notes if you are listening. And Secrets of the Grave link will be in the show notes as well, or it's on the front page of EMworld right now, if you're watching live.
bit of news which we can't talk about until six o'clock tonight it's quite a quite a heresy that we're not allowed to talk about it until six o'clock tonight i think this has got this is this is irked you but um we'll talk about it next week when we will be here same time same place live streaming next week you can join us indeed yeah or come along listen to the podcast as you always do yeah i guess all right then this week we get out and have a weekend
bit of news which we can't talk about until six o'clock tonight it's quite a quite a heresy that we're not allowed to talk about it until six o'clock tonight i think this has got this is this is irked you but um we'll talk about it next week when we will be here same time same place live streaming next week you can join us indeed yeah or come along listen to the podcast as you always do yeah i guess all right then this week we get out and have a weekend
Let's get out of here.
Let's get out of here.
Amazing. All right. Well, we'll see you all next week. Thanks very much for joining us.
Amazing. All right. Well, we'll see you all next week. Thanks very much for joining us.
Is that just because it's new, though? Will that sort itself out over time, maybe? Because any new software, when it's launched, there's always a bit of a teething period.
Is that just because it's new, though? Will that sort itself out over time, maybe? Because any new software, when it's launched, there's always a bit of a teething period.
No. No, it's just like, it's very basic, like Albert Rodeo, just a map and then the minis on it. But for me, when I'm playing online, that's all I kind of need, to be honest.
No. No, it's just like, it's very basic, like Albert Rodeo, just a map and then the minis on it. But for me, when I'm playing online, that's all I kind of need, to be honest.
Just to measure distances and know if people are flanking.
Just to measure distances and know if people are flanking.
It's the one, it's the only, it's... It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing, and I am streaming from a different location today where the internet is patchy. So this could be wonderful for the live stream.
It's the one, it's the only, it's... It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing, and I am streaming from a different location today where the internet is patchy. So this could be wonderful for the live stream.
I do not have that peculiar American smile.
I do not have that peculiar American smile.
Yay. I wondered how I was going to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 this week.
Yay. I wondered how I was going to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 this week.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We do it anyway.
We do it anyway.
Yeah. Okay, well, I'm going to give Celeste a go, so I will let you know what I think. Is it on Mac? I think so.
Yeah. Okay, well, I'm going to give Celeste a go, so I will let you know what I think. Is it on Mac? I think so.
Well, I have a Mac and a PC in my household, so.
Well, I have a Mac and a PC in my household, so.
That's what I'd do for Baldur's Gate, yeah.
That's what I'd do for Baldur's Gate, yeah.
Yeah. Anyway, what's the next bit of news you had, Russ?
Yeah. Anyway, what's the next bit of news you had, Russ?
Shall we look at some pretty pictures then?
Shall we look at some pretty pictures then?
So we talked about some new Dungeons and or Dragons books that are coming out this year. And one of them is Dragon Delves. And we got some pretty, pretty pictures of cover art this week. So let's have a look at that. So obviously, if you're listening to the podcast, the links with the visuals is on enworld.org. So you can have a look at it. But the main cover art, it's very classic D&D style.
So we talked about some new Dungeons and or Dragons books that are coming out this year. And one of them is Dragon Delves. And we got some pretty, pretty pictures of cover art this week. So let's have a look at that. So obviously, if you're listening to the podcast, the links with the visuals is on enworld.org. So you can have a look at it. But the main cover art, it's very classic D&D style.
There's five different dragons on the front, breathing down some adventurers. Looks very cool. Lots of dragons.
There's five different dragons on the front, breathing down some adventurers. Looks very cool. Lots of dragons.
Makes sense with the book for Dragon Dolls.
Makes sense with the book for Dragon Dolls.
It does look a little 90s in style.
It does look a little 90s in style.
I don't know about the adventures yet. I know it's going to be about dragons, but that is all that I know.
I don't know about the adventures yet. I know it's going to be about dragons, but that is all that I know.
Yes, and this is the real one. So they have an alternate cover, which looks like an 80s acid trip. It looks like the kind of punk or glam rock stuff.
Yes, and this is the real one. So they have an alternate cover, which looks like an 80s acid trip. It looks like the kind of punk or glam rock stuff.
I'm sure we'll get more info as time goes by, but I just thought that artwork was very pretty, so I did want to share it with everybody.
I'm sure we'll get more info as time goes by, but I just thought that artwork was very pretty, so I did want to share it with everybody.
Good. That was worth mentioning.
Good. That was worth mentioning.
Yeah, well, I want to talk about The Marilith. Let's do it.
Yeah, well, I want to talk about The Marilith. Let's do it.
I have some news. I'll talk about some news that is related to tabletop RPGs. So, do you know World of Darkness are role-playing games?
I have some news. I'll talk about some news that is related to tabletop RPGs. So, do you know World of Darkness are role-playing games?
And they go, I work in book publishing. I'm like, oh, what have you written? I was like, no, I don't write the books. I'm a publisher. I publish them. And they look at me confused for a minute.
And they go, I work in book publishing. I'm like, oh, what have you written? I was like, no, I don't write the books. I'm a publisher. I publish them. And they look at me confused for a minute.
All these things. If you are creative and good at directing people, you could creatively direct the World of Darkness. So the summary of this is the world of darkness is hiring creative directors to work. Paradox. Yeah. You would need to move to Stockholm, Sweden to do this. That doesn't sound awful. Yeah, but if you are able, if you are willing and able. Sweden's quite shitty, isn't it?
All these things. If you are creative and good at directing people, you could creatively direct the World of Darkness. So the summary of this is the world of darkness is hiring creative directors to work. Paradox. Yeah. You would need to move to Stockholm, Sweden to do this. That doesn't sound awful. Yeah, but if you are able, if you are willing and able. Sweden's quite shitty, isn't it?
Yeah, but so is the UK right now. But yeah, so this is suitable for somebody who's, you know, working as creative director. You need to know tabletop design, LARP, and video games. Perhaps have experience working with TV and film productions, you know, able to work with fandom communities and things like that.
Yeah, but so is the UK right now. But yeah, so this is suitable for somebody who's, you know, working as creative director. You need to know tabletop design, LARP, and video games. Perhaps have experience working with TV and film productions, you know, able to work with fandom communities and things like that.
So there's more detail in the job description, but it looks like a really interesting role. And it's a full-time role in kind of the games industry. So I always like to kind of showcase them when these roles come about. Yeah.
So there's more detail in the job description, but it looks like a really interesting role. And it's a full-time role in kind of the games industry. So I always like to kind of showcase them when these roles come about. Yeah.
Yeah, so this is the brand of World of Darkness. So you do need to know your tabletop RPGs, yes. You do need to understand the LARP side of it as well, as well as the digital games as well, and film and TV. So your job is pretty much to maintain consistent canon across all mediums and make sure the brand... You're basically the Barbara Broccoli of World of Darkness.
Yeah, so this is the brand of World of Darkness. So you do need to know your tabletop RPGs, yes. You do need to understand the LARP side of it as well, as well as the digital games as well, and film and TV. So your job is pretty much to maintain consistent canon across all mediums and make sure the brand... You're basically the Barbara Broccoli of World of Darkness.
Anyway.
Anyway.
Who's Robin Rockerley?
Who's Robin Rockerley?
Oh, right, that makes sense, yeah. For James Bond, yeah.
Oh, right, that makes sense, yeah. For James Bond, yeah.
Yeah. So, yeah, so that is live and available now, so you can get your applications in if you are a person who is interested in such things. So it is quite a niche qualification because you do need to have experience with a range of things. It's like live events, tabletop RPGs, digital games, film and TV, so it's quite... Film and TV, that sounds... Because has there ever been...
Yeah. So, yeah, so that is live and available now, so you can get your applications in if you are a person who is interested in such things. So it is quite a niche qualification because you do need to have experience with a range of things. It's like live events, tabletop RPGs, digital games, film and TV, so it's quite... Film and TV, that sounds... Because has there ever been...
And I usually say no, because if they're not cool and don't know about tabletop RPGs, then why would they know? Because if they're the type of person that listens to this podcast, like Nelson, who just said good morning to us. Good morning, Nelson. Nelson would know what tabletop RPG publishing is, so I wouldn't say that.
And I usually say no, because if they're not cool and don't know about tabletop RPGs, then why would they know? Because if they're the type of person that listens to this podcast, like Nelson, who just said good morning to us. Good morning, Nelson. Nelson would know what tabletop RPG publishing is, so I wouldn't say that.
You too could be here should you choose and are available at 2 p.m. BST or GMT, which is 9 a.m. Eastern.
You too could be here should you choose and are available at 2 p.m. BST or GMT, which is 9 a.m. Eastern.
Yes. You can translate that wherever you are in the world.
Yes. You can translate that wherever you are in the world.
Do you have anything else you'd like to rant about news-related?
Do you have anything else you'd like to rant about news-related?
Yes.
Yes.
Today is Morris' unofficial tabletop RPG talk, Man Yells at Sky.
Today is Morris' unofficial tabletop RPG talk, Man Yells at Sky.
Solasta 2. Yes.
Solasta 2. Yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is it because you don't play video games?
Is it because you don't play video games?
Anyway, let me tell you what I've been doing about this week. So the Planestriders journal is now available. The offset print run is now available for general retail for the public. So we did our Kickstarter backers first at the end of last year, then we waited a few months for giving it to everyone else.
Anyway, let me tell you what I've been doing about this week. So the Planestriders journal is now available. The offset print run is now available for general retail for the public. So we did our Kickstarter backers first at the end of last year, then we waited a few months for giving it to everyone else.
So it's now, it's been up on DriveThruRPG, the PDF for a little while, but the offset print run version is all available.
So it's now, it's been up on DriveThruRPG, the PDF for a little while, but the offset print run version is all available.
Yeah. That's wonderful.
Yeah. That's wonderful.
Yes, it does do multi-classing.
Yes, it does do multi-classing.
I don't think I had the option to dodge, not that I recall.
I don't think I had the option to dodge, not that I recall.
I did have lots of ki points to do stuff. I can't remember what it was now. It's been a while since I've played it, so...
I did have lots of ki points to do stuff. I can't remember what it was now. It's been a while since I've played it, so...
Yeah, give more things to fighters. Yeah, definitely. I'm down for that.
Yeah, give more things to fighters. Yeah, definitely. I'm down for that.
I'm currently playing a fighter.
I'm currently playing a fighter.
I'm actually not playing level up A5E for the fight runs. It wouldn't work, unfortunately. But the GM behind the scenes is using level up A5E, but we're not having A5E character creation.
I'm actually not playing level up A5E for the fight runs. It wouldn't work, unfortunately. But the GM behind the scenes is using level up A5E, but we're not having A5E character creation.
because that's why i play role-playing games to win to win yeah that's that's why we play them yeah my famous way optimize my characters definitely why some people play them
because that's why i play role-playing games to win to win yeah that's that's why we play them yeah my famous way optimize my characters definitely why some people play them
Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Well, France Teacher in the comments has mentioned that winning D&D is when you're finally able to get the whole group together to have a session. That is the winning.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Well, France Teacher in the comments has mentioned that winning D&D is when you're finally able to get the whole group together to have a session. That is the winning.
Yeah, I think if you can get you all in a care home together, that'll definitely be good. We all have that to look forward to. Yeah. And maybe you can run the same adventures over and over again because it'll be a surprise every time.
Yeah, I think if you can get you all in a care home together, that'll definitely be good. We all have that to look forward to. Yeah. And maybe you can run the same adventures over and over again because it'll be a surprise every time.
Or a giant crystalline spider could be a companion of some sort for your group.
Or a giant crystalline spider could be a companion of some sort for your group.
Yeah, that's definitely what I'm hoping for.
Yeah, that's definitely what I'm hoping for.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Yeah, I guess. That is interesting. Thank you.
Yeah, I guess. That is interesting. Thank you.
I know, I did such a good segue into that. So as we mentioned before yesterday, we are doing the Companions Compendium, which is a book about pets and companions. Russ has written an article on Level Up Site if you want to read more about it and the detail of what's in it. But most importantly about making a pets book is that we get to commission art for it.
I know, I did such a good segue into that. So as we mentioned before yesterday, we are doing the Companions Compendium, which is a book about pets and companions. Russ has written an article on Level Up Site if you want to read more about it and the detail of what's in it. But most importantly about making a pets book is that we get to commission art for it.
And we had a really cute... Art of animals, yeah. Yeah, of cute animals. And the cover, we had some sketches come through for the cover. We had some options, but this is the one we've gone with. And I wanted to share it just because this was a real highlight of my week. Look at him!
And we had a really cute... Art of animals, yeah. Yeah, of cute animals. And the cover, we had some sketches come through for the cover. We had some options, but this is the one we've gone with. And I wanted to share it just because this was a real highlight of my week. Look at him!
In that sense of the word.
In that sense of the word.
Oh, yes. If you're a free tier and still don't feel you're getting value for money, I really don't know what we can do for you.
Oh, yes. If you're a free tier and still don't feel you're getting value for money, I really don't know what we can do for you.
I feel I should be paid to consume this content. I don't have a solution for that person. But there's always, I don't think it's that bad that 7% say they don't because actually in any survey you do, you're always going to get a percentage of people that are unhappy.
I feel I should be paid to consume this content. I don't have a solution for that person. But there's always, I don't think it's that bad that 7% say they don't because actually in any survey you do, you're always going to get a percentage of people that are unhappy.
I think, Russ, one of your friends that works in like data always says you chop off the top and the bottom because there's no truth in that when you're looking at data. So, yeah.
I think, Russ, one of your friends that works in like data always says you chop off the top and the bottom because there's no truth in that when you're looking at data. So, yeah.
Yeah, this is the sketch. So when we give a brief to an artist, they do some sketches to get an idea of what we want. So they had a few ideas and they're like, which one of these do you want to go with? And we're like, this one, because look at him. You want to give him a name.
Yeah, this is the sketch. So when we give a brief to an artist, they do some sketches to get an idea of what we want. So they had a few ideas and they're like, which one of these do you want to go with? And we're like, this one, because look at him. You want to give him a name.
Perhaps Timothy. I don't know.
Perhaps Timothy. I don't know.
It's like with TikTok in the US as well, it disappeared in the end only for 12 hours. But, you know, it's very real that suddenly access could be lost and you lose that whole market.
It's like with TikTok in the US as well, it disappeared in the end only for 12 hours. But, you know, it's very real that suddenly access could be lost and you lose that whole market.
Does MySpace still exist? Is my old crazy teenage account?
Does MySpace still exist? Is my old crazy teenage account?
Do you want me to take over?
Do you want me to take over?
If you're interested in a newsletter for EN World for the tabletop RPG news, yes, if you go on to enworld.org and you have an account on there, you can register to have a weekly newsletter, which is Daryl writes, which is a summary of all the news and bullet points you can click and link through. So yes, you can do that.
If you're interested in a newsletter for EN World for the tabletop RPG news, yes, if you go on to enworld.org and you have an account on there, you can register to have a weekly newsletter, which is Daryl writes, which is a summary of all the news and bullet points you can click and link through. So yes, you can do that.
I also have a podcast called This Week in Tabletop RPG where I summarize news in three minutes. So it's not an email, but anyway. And EM Publishing also has newsletters you can sign up to if you go to the empublishingrpg.com if you want to hear about what we are publishing. So there's two different ones there depending on what content that you want. Yeah.
I also have a podcast called This Week in Tabletop RPG where I summarize news in three minutes. So it's not an email, but anyway. And EM Publishing also has newsletters you can sign up to if you go to the empublishingrpg.com if you want to hear about what we are publishing. So there's two different ones there depending on what content that you want. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I have two more things. Oh. Oh. Yes. Oh.
No, I have two more things. Oh. Oh. Yes. Oh.
yeah i know be excited so this is my excited face yeah the one is a positive thing so it's about the tabletop arts fund peter shared the link to so applications are now open they're open until the 15th of march links will be in the show notes or the podcast or i'll put them a link in the comment right now as well well peter do you want to as you do you want to put it forward for um
yeah i know be excited so this is my excited face yeah the one is a positive thing so it's about the tabletop arts fund peter shared the link to so applications are now open they're open until the 15th of march links will be in the show notes or the podcast or i'll put them a link in the comment right now as well well peter do you want to as you do you want to put it forward for um
It's like a community charity initiative to try and get games made that wouldn't be made otherwise. So if you've got your game written, but you need money to pay a layout person or an editor or something, and you're just starting out and you're getting the money for that, they exist for that purpose.
It's like a community charity initiative to try and get games made that wouldn't be made otherwise. So if you've got your game written, but you need money to pay a layout person or an editor or something, and you're just starting out and you're getting the money for that, they exist for that purpose.
Yeah. Bandana or a collar on. Cause it's not just a wild, a wild companion. Somebody.
Yeah. Bandana or a collar on. Cause it's not just a wild, a wild companion. Somebody.
Yeah, I thought so when PJ shared it on the list. So I was like, yeah, they opened applications on the 15th of February this week and they're open until the 15th of March.
Yeah, I thought so when PJ shared it on the list. So I was like, yeah, they opened applications on the 15th of February this week and they're open until the 15th of March.
I can't see on the website how many. I imagine they accept donations and they apply for grants and things, so it depends how much money they have. Because if 20 people only want 20 quid, that's different than one person wanting a grand or something.
I can't see on the website how many. I imagine they accept donations and they apply for grants and things, so it depends how much money they have. Because if 20 people only want 20 quid, that's different than one person wanting a grand or something.
Yeah. Yeah. It's around all the stuff of the adventurers because it's part of the crew.
Yeah. Yeah. It's around all the stuff of the adventurers because it's part of the crew.
I like it. I don't know too much about it, but you know who will. Daryl, the podcast editor. But what I do know, there is a new Shadowrun fiction anthology, and they're looking for submissions to it at the moment. So they released a new one in December, They released one, which is spring of 2083.
I like it. I don't know too much about it, but you know who will. Daryl, the podcast editor. But what I do know, there is a new Shadowrun fiction anthology, and they're looking for submissions to it at the moment. So they released a new one in December, They released one, which is spring of 2083.
So basically, they're continuing to make these and they're looking for submissions for it. So they want short stories from 2,000 to 3,000 words. And they want them to be anonymous confessionals from people committing illegal acts in the Shadowrun world, obviously.
So basically, they're continuing to make these and they're looking for submissions for it. So they want short stories from 2,000 to 3,000 words. And they want them to be anonymous confessionals from people committing illegal acts in the Shadowrun world, obviously.
Amazing. They're looking for writers for that, for this, but also for Battletech, because they're doing a magazine for Battletech called Shrapnel. So... If you are interested in either of those things and are a writer, they're looking for writers for it. They're paying six cents per word.
Amazing. They're looking for writers for that, for this, but also for Battletech, because they're doing a magazine for Battletech called Shrapnel. So... If you are interested in either of those things and are a writer, they're looking for writers for it. They're paying six cents per word.
And yeah, there's an article in the EM World that you can check out, which has links to their guidelines for each, what they want and how you can get it. And if you're not a writer and you just think this is cool, you can purchase Augment on DriveThru, RPG or Catalyst Game Lab store for like $6.
And yeah, there's an article in the EM World that you can check out, which has links to their guidelines for each, what they want and how you can get it. And if you're not a writer and you just think this is cool, you can purchase Augment on DriveThru, RPG or Catalyst Game Lab store for like $6.
Yes, we haven't announced it yet. So are you doing the announcement now?
Yes, we haven't announced it yet. So are you doing the announcement now?
Yeah. Alpha Star. I have no visuals ready, but okay.
Yeah. Alpha Star. I have no visuals ready, but okay.
Yeah. And that'll probably be coming to you in the summertime because it's going to be quarterly. We're not doing it via Patreon because that has to be monthly and that didn't make sense with it being quarterly. The Voidrunners Codex box set should be out with everybody by then. So once they've been fulfilled, Kickstarter backers will then release the magazine.
Yeah. And that'll probably be coming to you in the summertime because it's going to be quarterly. We're not doing it via Patreon because that has to be monthly and that didn't make sense with it being quarterly. The Voidrunners Codex box set should be out with everybody by then. So once they've been fulfilled, Kickstarter backers will then release the magazine.
So you've got ongoing support and information for the Voidrunners.
So you've got ongoing support and information for the Voidrunners.
Yeah. I've got someone in the comments that's running two Voidrunner campaigns.
Yeah. I've got someone in the comments that's running two Voidrunner campaigns.
Yeah. All right. Yeah. Nice to see it.
Yeah. All right. Yeah. Nice to see it.
But if people are interested, get that article, the link that was on the screen, and it'll be in the show notes as well if you want to read more about that. But that's what I've been doing this week. What have you been up to this week, PJ?
But if people are interested, get that article, the link that was on the screen, and it'll be in the show notes as well if you want to read more about that. But that's what I've been doing this week. What have you been up to this week, PJ?
Of course. So it's also an in-world magazine.
Of course. So it's also an in-world magazine.
Kind of.
Kind of.
Not really. The name is. Yeah.
Not really. The name is. Yeah.
Yeah, that sounds amazing.
Yeah, that sounds amazing.
And now you know.
And now you know.
That is all.
That is all.
But we did manage to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 briefly, which we do every week. So I'm good about that. Okay.
But we did manage to talk about Baldur's Gate 3 briefly, which we do every week. So I'm good about that. Okay.
Nothing new to report. But last week we did a deep dive into the monster.
Nothing new to report. But last week we did a deep dive into the monster.
All right. On that note, shall we leave?
All right. On that note, shall we leave?
All right. Thanks very much. We'll go now. Bye.
All right. Thanks very much. We'll go now. Bye.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Bam.
Bam.
There we go. All right. Russ, did I miss any of our amazing work we've done this week that you wanted to share?
There we go. All right. Russ, did I miss any of our amazing work we've done this week that you wanted to share?
Yeah, it was quite nice at Twelfth Level, because sometimes you don't get as many adventures up in the teens.
Yeah, it was quite nice at Twelfth Level, because sometimes you don't get as many adventures up in the teens.
It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. Hello.
It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. Hello.
Just me getting ready in the mornings.
Just me getting ready in the mornings.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
They will return.
They will return.
It's been a good week. My hair turned purple, which is nice.
It's been a good week. My hair turned purple, which is nice.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Cozy RPGs and cottagecore can be the thing, but they are two separate things.
Cozy RPGs and cottagecore can be the thing, but they are two separate things.
Things can be both cozy and cottagecore. All things can be cozy and not cottagecore.
Things can be both cozy and cottagecore. All things can be cozy and not cottagecore.
Very Wind in the Willows, yes.
Very Wind in the Willows, yes.
Yeah, I just woke up in the morning and that's how it happens sometimes. And I've been doing stuff and things at work as well.
Yeah, I just woke up in the morning and that's how it happens sometimes. And I've been doing stuff and things at work as well.
This one does.
This one does.
Well, that sounds all lovely.
Well, that sounds all lovely.
Certainly one of, if not the biggest.
Certainly one of, if not the biggest.
It looks cute. I'm interested. It's coming to Backerkit. I'll probably take a look. I'm intrigued to know more about the system and what they do with that.
It looks cute. I'm interested. It's coming to Backerkit. I'll probably take a look. I'm intrigued to know more about the system and what they do with that.
Just this role-playing company. I can show you what I've been doing if you want.
Just this role-playing company. I can show you what I've been doing if you want.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Yeah. Well, that's very cute, but I'll look out for that coming on. Yeah. What else is happening in the world?
Yeah. Well, that's very cute, but I'll look out for that coming on. Yeah. What else is happening in the world?
Let me just bring the scope to tabletop RPGs.
Let me just bring the scope to tabletop RPGs.
You have to narrow it down to three. The things that they are in their narrowing down process.
You have to narrow it down to three. The things that they are in their narrowing down process.
I think a lot of people are excited for that because the Kickstarter was huge.
I think a lot of people are excited for that because the Kickstarter was huge.
Well, we'll find out on January 2nd.
Well, we'll find out on January 2nd.
Can you tell us who's in the lead currently?
Can you tell us who's in the lead currently?
oh okay it's a secret on the podcast okay you can tell me later that's fine i didn't know if the podcast systems were going to get a sneaky insight that's fine that's fine but they'll they'll find out in a couple of weeks post it on am world and we'll and we'll we'll talk about it here as well yeah it's good to see lovecraft-esque second edition from blackamada games because like you know they're a small indie british press that's nice to see that they've made it into this competition
oh okay it's a secret on the podcast okay you can tell me later that's fine i didn't know if the podcast systems were going to get a sneaky insight that's fine that's fine but they'll they'll find out in a couple of weeks post it on am world and we'll and we'll we'll talk about it here as well yeah it's good to see lovecraft-esque second edition from blackamada games because like you know they're a small indie british press that's nice to see that they've made it into this competition
Imagine he had a super cat, though. The cat would just ignore him when he called for it.
Imagine he had a super cat, though. The cat would just ignore him when he called for it.
Absolutely. I think I'm going to have them on Not D&D to talk about it as well a bit more because the second edition is coming up. Yeah. Yes.
Absolutely. I think I'm going to have them on Not D&D to talk about it as well a bit more because the second edition is coming up. Yeah. Yes.
Can I have a go at doing a tenuous segue?
Can I have a go at doing a tenuous segue?
Sure, if you like. So, PJ was mentioning that they're very excited for Starfinder 2nd Edition, which is coming out next year. And as we know, Starfinder 2nd Edition is designed to be cross-compatible with Pathfinder 2nd Edition.
Sure, if you like. So, PJ was mentioning that they're very excited for Starfinder 2nd Edition, which is coming out next year. And as we know, Starfinder 2nd Edition is designed to be cross-compatible with Pathfinder 2nd Edition.
And I have some Pathfinder 2nd Edition news.
And I have some Pathfinder 2nd Edition news.
How was that? A six out of ten.
How was that? A six out of ten.
Okay. Well, I'm quite short, so I need two steps for what most people take.
Okay. Well, I'm quite short, so I need two steps for what most people take.
Anyway, the news. So Paizo Launching has launched playtests for two new classes with Pathfinder 2nd Edition. So if you play Pathfinder, this will be of interest to you. So there's a Necromancer and a Rune Smith. So, yeah, so it's on the, right now it's on the Pathfinder Playtest website and also on Demiplane if you use that.
Anyway, the news. So Paizo Launching has launched playtests for two new classes with Pathfinder 2nd Edition. So if you play Pathfinder, this will be of interest to you. So there's a Necromancer and a Rune Smith. So, yeah, so it's on the, right now it's on the Pathfinder Playtest website and also on Demiplane if you use that.
So the Necromancer is described as a prepared caster class so it can summon thralls and all the things you'd expect in Necromancer. And the Rune Smith is a martial class and they uses buffs and allies by etching runes on things or things like that. So it's like a support melee class, which sounds really interesting.
So the Necromancer is described as a prepared caster class so it can summon thralls and all the things you'd expect in Necromancer. And the Rune Smith is a martial class and they uses buffs and allies by etching runes on things or things like that. So it's like a support melee class, which sounds really interesting.
But yeah, so it coming out, this suggests, as has been written on E&World, as Christian has suggested, means that there'll be more classes released in 2025, so maybe another class.
But yeah, so it coming out, this suggests, as has been written on E&World, as Christian has suggested, means that there'll be more classes released in 2025, so maybe another class.
Absolutely. Well, so do players. So, so far there's 25.
Absolutely. Well, so do players. So, so far there's 25.
So there's two. The Commander and the Guardian is going to be released in the 25 book we know about called Battle Cry. So this suggests that these two will come in another book they're doing in 2025. And there might be a little Easter egg in the name of the playtest because it's named Impossible. And if you know Pathfinder, there's The Impossible Lands.
So there's two. The Commander and the Guardian is going to be released in the 25 book we know about called Battle Cry. So this suggests that these two will come in another book they're doing in 2025. And there might be a little Easter egg in the name of the playtest because it's named Impossible. And if you know Pathfinder, there's The Impossible Lands.
So they think that's a hint that there's going to be another book based on The Impossible Lands.
So they think that's a hint that there's going to be another book based on The Impossible Lands.
Not even dreamies would pull them closer.
Not even dreamies would pull them closer.
Well, it's not really possible for me to describe.
Well, it's not really possible for me to describe.
It's pun-tastic and it means I don't know. But anyway, this playtest is available from now until January 31st. So if you're listening to this a bit late because you're catching up post-holidays, post-New Year, it's available throughout January for you to have a look at those two classes and give your feedback.
It's pun-tastic and it means I don't know. But anyway, this playtest is available from now until January 31st. So if you're listening to this a bit late because you're catching up post-holidays, post-New Year, it's available throughout January for you to have a look at those two classes and give your feedback.
So that makes perfect sense that the Necromancer and the Runecaster are of those worlds. It makes sense. So maybe a setting or an adventure which introduces classes in that setting. We don't know that for sure, but that's a strong hint calling it the impossible playtest. I mean, it's not subtle. But anyway, so that was information about those new Pathfinder classes.
So that makes perfect sense that the Necromancer and the Runecaster are of those worlds. It makes sense. So maybe a setting or an adventure which introduces classes in that setting. We don't know that for sure, but that's a strong hint calling it the impossible playtest. I mean, it's not subtle. But anyway, so that was information about those new Pathfinder classes.
Make sure it's official because there's going to be so many third-party content and homebrew things.
Make sure it's official because there's going to be so many third-party content and homebrew things.
I think that makes sense, because I think a lot of people move to Pathfinder when they've played 5e, but they want a bit more from the game. And maybe that's from a player's perspective. They're like, you know, I want to do these specific things. And because the rules are a bit more crunchy.
I think that makes sense, because I think a lot of people move to Pathfinder when they've played 5e, but they want a bit more from the game. And maybe that's from a player's perspective. They're like, you know, I want to do these specific things. And because the rules are a bit more crunchy.
I feel like you're filibustering at this point if you keep going.
I feel like you're filibustering at this point if you keep going.
Yeah, I love meat and yoghurt myself. It's my favourite.
Yeah, I love meat and yoghurt myself. It's my favourite.
We want variety in our tabletop RPG diet.
We want variety in our tabletop RPG diet.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Oh, nice.
Oh, nice.
You know, I haven't played the first one, so I might download and play the first one and see what I think.
You know, I haven't played the first one, so I might download and play the first one and see what I think.
The first one was released in 2021, so it's not going to be like... Oh, yeah, all the bugs are thoroughly ironed out of it.
The first one was released in 2021, so it's not going to be like... Oh, yeah, all the bugs are thoroughly ironed out of it.
Yeah. I'm still not done with Baldur's Gate 3. And do you know who hasn't even picked up Baldur's Gate 3? Russ, who on this very podcast said that he would do a live stream with me playing it.
Yeah. I'm still not done with Baldur's Gate 3. And do you know who hasn't even picked up Baldur's Gate 3? Russ, who on this very podcast said that he would do a live stream with me playing it.
Okay, I'm not the first person to make this joke then, I see. It's an obvious joke.
Okay, I'm not the first person to make this joke then, I see. It's an obvious joke.
Wow. But we need to do a live stream playing Baldur's Gate 3 because you said you would.
Wow. But we need to do a live stream playing Baldur's Gate 3 because you said you would.
Ah, go on. Go on, go on. So we have to do that at some point.
Ah, go on. Go on, go on. So we have to do that at some point.
What is the prize?
What is the prize?
How exciting.
How exciting.
A very Baldur's Gate 3 Christmas.
A very Baldur's Gate 3 Christmas.
This is great. It's like a memory match game.
This is great. It's like a memory match game.
This is now the Baldur's Gate 3 one unwraps a story. And this one, chapter one, is how the Gromeshka stole Christmas.
This is now the Baldur's Gate 3 one unwraps a story. And this one, chapter one, is how the Gromeshka stole Christmas.
How fun. I'm going to do that. There we go. It's my weekend sorted. Because I'm on holiday Christmas after recording this podcast.
How fun. I'm going to do that. There we go. It's my weekend sorted. Because I'm on holiday Christmas after recording this podcast.
Yes. Being like, why aren't you feeding me?
Yes. Being like, why aren't you feeding me?
Oh, I can. I've been playing Baldur's Gate 3 for like 50 years, so I don't worry. I can stretch it out. The live stream I do every week of Baldur's Gate 3, we are still playing through our first run, and it's been over a year now. Wow. We're in act three finally. We play two hours a week and there's four of us and we do faff around a lot. We do like a faff.
Oh, I can. I've been playing Baldur's Gate 3 for like 50 years, so I don't worry. I can stretch it out. The live stream I do every week of Baldur's Gate 3, we are still playing through our first run, and it's been over a year now. Wow. We're in act three finally. We play two hours a week and there's four of us and we do faff around a lot. We do like a faff.
Because we want to make sure our outfits match so we look like a cool glam rock group.
Because we want to make sure our outfits match so we look like a cool glam rock group.
I know. Love a little faff.
I know. Love a little faff.
Yeah. And we also, it's the cocktail hour so we drink cocktails while we're doing it which may increase the amount of time it takes to get things done.
Yeah. And we also, it's the cocktail hour so we drink cocktails while we're doing it which may increase the amount of time it takes to get things done.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Well, I'm glad we've managed to segue in some Baldur's Gate 3 news in for the week.
Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. Well, I'm glad we've managed to segue in some Baldur's Gate 3 news in for the week.
I am so delighted. Thank you for my Christmas present of that. Do we have any other news we'd like to talk about?
I am so delighted. Thank you for my Christmas present of that. Do we have any other news we'd like to talk about?
It's getting more niche.
It's getting more niche.
You don't have to be weakened by the shoes, is that correct?
You don't have to be weakened by the shoes, is that correct?
They tempt you with a bacon sandwich before you go in.
They tempt you with a bacon sandwich before you go in.
Nice.
Nice.
Ooh.
Ooh.
It sounds like there's a variety of styles as well.
It sounds like there's a variety of styles as well.
I'm really pleased by that. That feels correct.
I'm really pleased by that. That feels correct.
Yeah, some of us need the height boost for us.
Yeah, some of us need the height boost for us.
Okay.
Okay.
I will allow it.
I will allow it.
When is it not time to talk about Goblins? But sorry.
When is it not time to talk about Goblins? But sorry.
Nice.
Nice.
Oh, right. Okay.
Oh, right. Okay.
Yes, that is very true. Although, interestingly, not as clear about Amazon, though.
Yes, that is very true. Although, interestingly, not as clear about Amazon, though.
Amazon have not, it's not quite that black and white with Amazon.
Amazon have not, it's not quite that black and white with Amazon.
Yes, kind of, yes. Yeah, it just makes small indie publishers making books a more interesting time.
Yes, kind of, yes. Yeah, it just makes small indie publishers making books a more interesting time.
Just more paperwork for me is pretty much what that means.
Just more paperwork for me is pretty much what that means.
Oh, no, no worries. And it doesn't apply to digital products.
Oh, no, no worries. And it doesn't apply to digital products.
Well, I have some news that it's almost as exciting as a bridge on fire if we're ready to move on.
Well, I have some news that it's almost as exciting as a bridge on fire if we're ready to move on.
Wizards of the Coast new Unearthed Arcana playtest.
Wizards of the Coast new Unearthed Arcana playtest.
So the Artificer, which I always feel like I'm saying wrong, so I'm saying it in a weird way to cover up for that. So it's a playtest for the Artificer class to bring it in alignment with the 2024 rules update, pretty much. It's on D&D Beyond right now. They're going to start taking feedback on the 24th of December. So Christmas Day, you can sit and give your feedback there.
So the Artificer, which I always feel like I'm saying wrong, so I'm saying it in a weird way to cover up for that. So it's a playtest for the Artificer class to bring it in alignment with the 2024 rules update, pretty much. It's on D&D Beyond right now. They're going to start taking feedback on the 24th of December. So Christmas Day, you can sit and give your feedback there.
like to do but yeah from what I understand of it I haven't played an artificer so I don't I'm not too okay but from what I understand people on the internet are saying and they don't lie I do need to interrupt the pronunciation it's artificer runi Yes. Or Archie for short.
like to do but yeah from what I understand of it I haven't played an artificer so I don't I'm not too okay but from what I understand people on the internet are saying and they don't lie I do need to interrupt the pronunciation it's artificer runi Yes. Or Archie for short.
So the Tinkerer.
So the Tinkerer.
So the Artichoke class.
So the Artichoke class.
The Artichoke class. There haven't been very big drastic changes to it from what I understand. However, I do not play this class.
The Artichoke class. There haven't been very big drastic changes to it from what I understand. However, I do not play this class.
Yeah, so it looks like there are some updates to 2024, but it doesn't feel like a major rework. If you play this class, you might want to have a look at it because maybe to you it will be more obvious. But for me, as somebody who hasn't played one and just looking through and comparing, it doesn't look like a major jump.
Yeah, so it looks like there are some updates to 2024, but it doesn't feel like a major rework. If you play this class, you might want to have a look at it because maybe to you it will be more obvious. But for me, as somebody who hasn't played one and just looking through and comparing, it doesn't look like a major jump.
But I might ask one of the players in my Eberron campaign, cause they play an artichoke and I'll see, see what he thinks. Cause he's, but we're not going to update to the 2024 rules set anyway. We're staying.
But I might ask one of the players in my Eberron campaign, cause they play an artichoke and I'll see, see what he thinks. Cause he's, but we're not going to update to the 2024 rules set anyway. We're staying.
I don't like it. Oh, but look at it.
I don't like it. Oh, but look at it.
I imagine maybe they're updating Eberron.
I imagine maybe they're updating Eberron.
That's where it... Maybe.
That's where it... Maybe.
It looks terrifying. It's trying too hard to be cute in a way that I think it's evil.
It looks terrifying. It's trying too hard to be cute in a way that I think it's evil.
okay it's like a gremlin in the same way that like victorian china dolls are meant to be like cute toys but are terrifying it has that vibe for me okay okay yeah speaking of which i'm at my parents house my mother chose to tell me that there is she has some of my baby hair kept she's kind of weird but i know this thing parents yeah i find that weird and gross You know where she keeps it?
okay it's like a gremlin in the same way that like victorian china dolls are meant to be like cute toys but are terrifying it has that vibe for me okay okay yeah speaking of which i'm at my parents house my mother chose to tell me that there is she has some of my baby hair kept she's kind of weird but i know this thing parents yeah i find that weird and gross You know where she keeps it?
Okay, there's a robot dog.
Okay, there's a robot dog.
It looks like the type of dog that dribbles a lot.
It looks like the type of dog that dribbles a lot.
We love a jowly dog on this podcast. Two jowly dogs in this very house I sit.
We love a jowly dog on this podcast. Two jowly dogs in this very house I sit.
Artichoke next to them.
Artichoke next to them.
All right, yeah. I was looking at a picture you sent me. That you're seeing because of theory of mind?
All right, yeah. I was looking at a picture you sent me. That you're seeing because of theory of mind?
Yeah, exactly. It feels perfectly right in the world I'm playing in.
Yeah, exactly. It feels perfectly right in the world I'm playing in.
Yeah, that's fair enough. I mean, it's very much a setting choice. It changes the world. Those things exist within them.
Yeah, that's fair enough. I mean, it's very much a setting choice. It changes the world. Those things exist within them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I usually turn it on my players and make them answer those questions when I haven't thought about it. I'll be like, oh, yeah, why do you think that's the case? And they'll constantly be like, yeah, that works. I'll say that.
I usually turn it on my players and make them answer those questions when I haven't thought about it. I'll be like, oh, yeah, why do you think that's the case? And they'll constantly be like, yeah, that works. I'll say that.
I don't understand.
I don't understand.
Inside a china doll. And I was like, Mother, that's how you make eldritch entities. That's the start of a horror film.
Inside a china doll. And I was like, Mother, that's how you make eldritch entities. That's the start of a horror film.
Maybe.
Maybe.
What are they doing over there?
What are they doing over there?
Sounds a bit like 40K.
Sounds a bit like 40K.
Okay. Nice. Interesting. I am going to look into that a little bit more because it piqued my interest. A unique system with weird mechanics. I'm interested.
Okay. Nice. Interesting. I am going to look into that a little bit more because it piqued my interest. A unique system with weird mechanics. I'm interested.
Oh, it's like, I think it's vegan fake. Like, it's not actually leather.
Oh, it's like, I think it's vegan fake. Like, it's not actually leather.
So it looks and feels like leather, but it's not.
So it looks and feels like leather, but it's not.
Oh, nice, nice. Because we don't use that for our deluxe edition, but it's something similar.
Oh, nice, nice. Because we don't use that for our deluxe edition, but it's something similar.
How awful is that? Anyway, sorry, that's what made me think of when I saw this goblin. But PJ, please tell us more.
How awful is that? Anyway, sorry, that's what made me think of when I saw this goblin. But PJ, please tell us more.
Yeah. So it looks like leather, but if you don't want your books bound in the flesh of the dead, because you don't want to accidentally summon something, you can use this as an alternative.
Yeah. So it looks like leather, but if you don't want your books bound in the flesh of the dead, because you don't want to accidentally summon something, you can use this as an alternative.
Then you want real leather.
Then you want real leather.
Yeah, that's still... Just for plausible deniability. At the very minimum, you want real leather there.
Yeah, that's still... Just for plausible deniability. At the very minimum, you want real leather there.
From whatever animal you wish. A person, a dog, a cow.
From whatever animal you wish. A person, a dog, a cow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Which is quicker?
Which is quicker?
That's my vote.
That's my vote.
I do love stories. Yeah, that's been what a lot of my professional life has been about.
I do love stories. Yeah, that's been what a lot of my professional life has been about.
I actually do like that, because then I can make... I do like a fighter. Sometimes I just want to hit things, you know?
I actually do like that, because then I can make... I do like a fighter. Sometimes I just want to hit things, you know?
Even if they are not alpha testers?
Even if they are not alpha testers?
Yeah, well, that seems like a good touch. There's loads of features that are coming in that aren't on it yet. So it's nice that we're getting a few of those.
Yeah, well, that seems like a good touch. There's loads of features that are coming in that aren't on it yet. So it's nice that we're getting a few of those.
I've watched all of the Lord of the Rings trilogy this week. Every evening after work, I've sat down with my dad and we've watched a different one.
I've watched all of the Lord of the Rings trilogy this week. Every evening after work, I've sat down with my dad and we've watched a different one.
Extended.
Extended.
Oh, don't do that. They're all one thing in my mind. They're all very much one thing. So they're not.
Oh, don't do that. They're all one thing in my mind. They're all very much one thing. So they're not.
Oh, so it does. I misread that and thought it was eight foot tall for a second. And I was like, wow, that's a really good price for an eight foot tall goblin.
Oh, so it does. I misread that and thought it was eight foot tall for a second. And I was like, wow, that's a really good price for an eight foot tall goblin.
Yes. Well, that's what I did on my birthday last year. We sat with my friends. We came around. I made a Hobbit buffet. So I just put food out, loads of stuff that could stay out all day and be safe. And then I was like, help yourself as you need. We're just running through. We're starting at 10 a.m. and we're going through the extended edition until we're finished.
Yes. Well, that's what I did on my birthday last year. We sat with my friends. We came around. I made a Hobbit buffet. So I just put food out, loads of stuff that could stay out all day and be safe. And then I was like, help yourself as you need. We're just running through. We're starting at 10 a.m. and we're going through the extended edition until we're finished.
Cause he wasn't invited.
Cause he wasn't invited.
Django was there, but he, he, he did not steal any from the dining table. Cause he's a good boy.
Django was there, but he, he, he did not steal any from the dining table. Cause he's a good boy.
Oh, nice.
Oh, nice.
As minis and everything.
As minis and everything.
It's ÂŁ45. Oh, it's quite expensive. But it's because you are getting four actual miniatures. So I'm not surprised. You get the miniatures and you get a set of gaming dice as well as the maps. There's four booklets in there. So I'm not surprised it's ÂŁ45.
It's ÂŁ45. Oh, it's quite expensive. But it's because you are getting four actual miniatures. So I'm not surprised. You get the miniatures and you get a set of gaming dice as well as the maps. There's four booklets in there. So I'm not surprised it's ÂŁ45.
Yeah, that looks good. I mean, for ÂŁ45, that's kind of what I'd expect to have in there. We went under the scale with ours. We were like, well, how do we keep it down? And that was not having minis in, because as soon as you add miniatures in, it just makes it seem expensive.
Yeah, that looks good. I mean, for ÂŁ45, that's kind of what I'd expect to have in there. We went under the scale with ours. We were like, well, how do we keep it down? And that was not having minis in, because as soon as you add miniatures in, it just makes it seem expensive.
Yeah, a five foot tall goblin would be like a piece of furniture.
Yeah, a five foot tall goblin would be like a piece of furniture.
ÂŁ25.
ÂŁ25.
What's old is new, one is 25.
What's old is new, one is 25.
Well, we do have two starter box sets that came out last year, so one's 25 and one's 30. Oh, that's good. No 3D printed miniature minis in them, though.
Well, we do have two starter box sets that came out last year, so one's 25 and one's 30. Oh, that's good. No 3D printed miniature minis in them, though.
We have punch board tokens for all the monsters and characters. We decided it that way because you can have tokens for everything. But it meant we could keep the price point. Because I think for me, the point of a starter box set is like, do you know what? I want to try it out, but I'm not sure if I want to commit to this. So I didn't want it to be really pricey. But anyway.
We have punch board tokens for all the monsters and characters. We decided it that way because you can have tokens for everything. But it meant we could keep the price point. Because I think for me, the point of a starter box set is like, do you know what? I want to try it out, but I'm not sure if I want to commit to this. So I didn't want it to be really pricey. But anyway.
And they're generic enough that you can use them for other systems as well.
And they're generic enough that you can use them for other systems as well.
If it was eight foot tall, I would have got it for 130 quid, much to the upset of my partner who lives in the house with me.
If it was eight foot tall, I would have got it for 130 quid, much to the upset of my partner who lives in the house with me.
Oh, for Gateway?
Oh, for Gateway?
Too late, you can't now. The goblin prevents you.
Too late, you can't now. The goblin prevents you.
We're going to have a function where you can export your characters into a physical print one, but we haven't finalised that yet, so... We haven't started.
We're going to have a function where you can export your characters into a physical print one, but we haven't finalised that yet, so... We haven't started.
so when i say finalize is like even the idea so but that will be a thing but i don't have an answer on what that will look like i don't know it will be the same as the starter box sets ones because they were more specifically laid out yeah if you know what i mean each of those was custom laid out as well yeah so that was a so i don't think it'll look exactly like that
so when i say finalize is like even the idea so but that will be a thing but i don't have an answer on what that will look like i don't know it will be the same as the starter box sets ones because they were more specifically laid out yeah if you know what i mean each of those was custom laid out as well yeah so that was a so i don't think it'll look exactly like that
100%.
100%.
Oh yeah, that's what we're saying. We 100% want to do that for that reason. There will be a way to export your character sheet.
Oh yeah, that's what we're saying. We 100% want to do that for that reason. There will be a way to export your character sheet.
It's some way of doing it, but it will need to be done in a way that it's suitable for your home printer to do. So it's not. So I imagine there'll be a version so you can just have it in black and white so it's not stressing the heck out of your home printer. Because home printers are brats.
It's some way of doing it, but it will need to be done in a way that it's suitable for your home printer to do. So it's not. So I imagine there'll be a version so you can just have it in black and white so it's not stressing the heck out of your home printer. Because home printers are brats.
Mine's such a brat.
Mine's such a brat.
I do not. But this will be my last podcast of 2024.
I do not. But this will be my last podcast of 2024.
And I apologize because I fully encouraged PJ and jumped on board as well.
And I apologize because I fully encouraged PJ and jumped on board as well.
Well, that was the segue I was leading into. So this is our last podcast of 2024. So.
Well, that was the segue I was leading into. So this is our last podcast of 2024. So.
Yeah. And where's it set? We all get a break.
Yeah. And where's it set? We all get a break.
We shall return.
We shall return.
I think we'll be recording on the 3rd of January.
I think we'll be recording on the 3rd of January.
I honestly thought it was Thursday. You celebrate it when you want. What harm would it do if you did it the day after?
I honestly thought it was Thursday. You celebrate it when you want. What harm would it do if you did it the day after?
We will allow it.
We will allow it.
Yeah, don't be bound by society's rules. You do. Yeah, thank you very much to all the listeners who have listened along in 2024. Thank you so much. And people that we met at podcasts, not podcasts.
Yeah, don't be bound by society's rules. You do. Yeah, thank you very much to all the listeners who have listened along in 2024. Thank you so much. And people that we met at podcasts, not podcasts.
Conventions.
Conventions.
Hello. It was nice to meet you. Thanks for calling on.
Hello. It was nice to meet you. Thanks for calling on.
Do you just want to start again? Do it again. You have the whole run up. You got this.
Do you just want to start again? Do it again. You have the whole run up. You got this.
Yes, that is weird. Especially because when people do it, they tend to say it in a way that they're like, oh, hello, and they recognize me, and I don't realize it's from the podcast, and I think it's somebody I've met before and can't remember. I'm like, what? But yeah, that's why I'm awkward and weird if you meet me at a convention. But yeah, thank you very much for listening.
Yes, that is weird. Especially because when people do it, they tend to say it in a way that they're like, oh, hello, and they recognize me, and I don't realize it's from the podcast, and I think it's somebody I've met before and can't remember. I'm like, what? But yeah, that's why I'm awkward and weird if you meet me at a convention. But yeah, thank you very much for listening.
And someone else replies with, to see you nice.
And someone else replies with, to see you nice.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
That's not true.
That's not true.
searching through reality for our blood so yeah perhaps at this point we should probably think about wrapping up yeah i was wondering if we should end this for the year um yeah when shall we three meet again the answer will be january january well it'll be the podcast should be out on the fourth of fourth of january but the podcast will be out on the friday whatever the day the friday is what's the third of january where the podcast will be out on the third of january then oh do the magic 25
searching through reality for our blood so yeah perhaps at this point we should probably think about wrapping up yeah i was wondering if we should end this for the year um yeah when shall we three meet again the answer will be january january well it'll be the podcast should be out on the fourth of fourth of january but the podcast will be out on the friday whatever the day the friday is what's the third of january where the podcast will be out on the third of january then oh do the magic 25
No, we can make it dramatic.
No, we can make it dramatic.
All right, listeners.
All right, listeners.
Are you going to edit this for us? Yeah, okay. When shall we three meet again? Okay, great.
Are you going to edit this for us? Yeah, okay. When shall we three meet again? Okay, great.
We are off for two weeks now. So when shall we three meet again? We will record on the 10th of January 2025. So you will likely hear this on the 11th, depending on the time zone that you were in.
We are off for two weeks now. So when shall we three meet again? We will record on the 10th of January 2025. So you will likely hear this on the 11th, depending on the time zone that you were in.
Okay, all right.
Okay, all right.
But I think for now, shall we all just go and say happy holidays and happy new year? Let's go do a Christmas.
But I think for now, shall we all just go and say happy holidays and happy new year? Let's go do a Christmas.
Let's go do a Christmas.
Let's go do a Christmas.
Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
There's a lot of nominations.
There's a lot of nominations.
Do you remember back in time when you hired me?
Do you remember back in time when you hired me?
It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. And if my audio is not quite as on track as usual, it's because I am in deepest, darkest Wales in a very cold old house recording this podcast. Dreaming of days when warmth and comfort were a thing.
It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. And if my audio is not quite as on track as usual, it's because I am in deepest, darkest Wales in a very cold old house recording this podcast. Dreaming of days when warmth and comfort were a thing.
Exactly, exactly. But sorry, yeah, as you were saying.
Exactly, exactly. But sorry, yeah, as you were saying.
No, I have had a look through. I haven't voted it because I'm thinking of what I want. I know one of them for sure because I backed it on Backerkit and I'm very excited for it. So you've met a thousand-year-old vampire, which is a solo RPG. It's the follow-on to Thousand-Year-Old Vampire. But this, you are the mortal vampire.
No, I have had a look through. I haven't voted it because I'm thinking of what I want. I know one of them for sure because I backed it on Backerkit and I'm very excited for it. So you've met a thousand-year-old vampire, which is a solo RPG. It's the follow-on to Thousand-Year-Old Vampire. But this, you are the mortal vampire.
friend or relationship to an immortal being, and it's your perspective on it. So it's flipping that relationship and looking at it. And it's really interesting.
friend or relationship to an immortal being, and it's your perspective on it. So it's flipping that relationship and looking at it. And it's really interesting.
Yes. Or you could be, but in this version, it doesn't have to be a vampire. It can be any sort of immortal, powerful being.
Yes. Or you could be, but in this version, it doesn't have to be a vampire. It can be any sort of immortal, powerful being.
I think you're not even Buffy. You're not even that powerful because at least she's a slayer. You're the... What's the guy that everyone... Xander. Xander. You're the Xander.
I think you're not even Buffy. You're not even that powerful because at least she's a slayer. You're the... What's the guy that everyone... Xander. Xander. You're the Xander.
Yeah. Yeah, but you can define what that is. But I just thought it was really interesting because it's looking at relationship dynamics that are powered through using that supernatural lens. That's a very obvious one.
Yeah. Yeah, but you can define what that is. But I just thought it was really interesting because it's looking at relationship dynamics that are powered through using that supernatural lens. That's a very obvious one.
Yes, that's a very good example. You're the Bella Swan to the Edward Cullen. Or it doesn't have to be romantic. It can be a friendship, or you could be like an indentured servant of a vampire.
Yes, that's a very good example. You're the Bella Swan to the Edward Cullen. Or it doesn't have to be romantic. It can be a friendship, or you could be like an indentured servant of a vampire.
It has lots of flexibility. But anyway, I'm very looking forward to that. So that is what I am very looking forward to. I'm doing an actual playthrough of A Thousand-Year-Old Vampire, which in my free time, it's taking forever to do. But I'll probably do that for this as well, just because I think it's interesting and fun. So that's definitely my list. But I have two others, too.
It has lots of flexibility. But anyway, I'm very looking forward to that. So that is what I am very looking forward to. I'm doing an actual playthrough of A Thousand-Year-Old Vampire, which in my free time, it's taking forever to do. But I'll probably do that for this as well, just because I think it's interesting and fun. So that's definitely my list. But I have two others, too.
And I've been going through. And I'm interested in the Gloomhaven RPG one, because I do like the board. And I'm interested in the fact that you can mix and match with it because it kind of tags on there. There's also Laundry 2nd Edition, which I love the world of Laundry. It's, yeah, great. It's just, you know, bureaucracy and with, you know, that Cthulhu horror.
And I've been going through. And I'm interested in the Gloomhaven RPG one, because I do like the board. And I'm interested in the fact that you can mix and match with it because it kind of tags on there. There's also Laundry 2nd Edition, which I love the world of Laundry. It's, yeah, great. It's just, you know, bureaucracy and with, you know, that Cthulhu horror.
And it feels incredibly British to me in my interpretation of it. Yeah.
And it feels incredibly British to me in my interpretation of it. Yeah.
so yeah you know there's that so that looks interesting to me trailer Cthulhu second edition I'm also interested in because that uses the gumshoe system so really simple to run and I had a very nice interview the other week on not D&D the creators on that so I'm as you can see I've got a list of things I could absolutely choose there's also Pico which we backed we mentioned that's the one that I would have picked for you tiny bugs big world that's also in the mix but I've not
so yeah you know there's that so that looks interesting to me trailer Cthulhu second edition I'm also interested in because that uses the gumshoe system so really simple to run and I had a very nice interview the other week on not D&D the creators on that so I'm as you can see I've got a list of things I could absolutely choose there's also Pico which we backed we mentioned that's the one that I would have picked for you tiny bugs big world that's also in the mix but I've not
I want to say dive.
I want to say dive.
Dived. Relatively small. Because I'm small. Yes. I've not had a look at the system in more detail, so I haven't quite got excited, but I have backed it. It's on its way. It will find its way to me. But those are kind of the things that interest me on that list, so I'll have to whittle it down to three. So those are my immediate ones, but I'm sure I'm going to see other stuff on here that I like.
Dived. Relatively small. Because I'm small. Yes. I've not had a look at the system in more detail, so I haven't quite got excited, but I have backed it. It's on its way. It will find its way to me. But those are kind of the things that interest me on that list, so I'll have to whittle it down to three. So those are my immediate ones, but I'm sure I'm going to see other stuff on here that I like.
But PJ, anything that catches your eye on this list?
But PJ, anything that catches your eye on this list?
As with many others, yeah.
As with many others, yeah.
I haven't actually seen it, but you have already told me about it yesterday, so yes.
I haven't actually seen it, but you have already told me about it yesterday, so yes.
It's handy for the times we live in in real life.
It's handy for the times we live in in real life.
I'm surprised the French would have put up with that because they're pretty good on their worker rights. I imagine they would have revolted against the French computer. I don't think the French could be subjugated in that world. That's mine.
I'm surprised the French would have put up with that because they're pretty good on their worker rights. I imagine they would have revolted against the French computer. I don't think the French could be subjugated in that world. That's mine.
That would make it more realistic, to be honest.
That would make it more realistic, to be honest.
Well, I'm glad there's less evil.
Well, I'm glad there's less evil.
But anyway, that was my other sad news whilst we were on the not-so-positive side of things. Does anyone have anything positive?
But anyway, that was my other sad news whilst we were on the not-so-positive side of things. Does anyone have anything positive?
Yes.
Yes.
Maybe not everyone on the internet does. You think so?
Maybe not everyone on the internet does. You think so?
Which is a niche thing to mention.
Which is a niche thing to mention.
I think it's most likely in landfill I imagine it got lost in the post some I mean I hate to say it but statistically most lost post ends up in some Depot in the wrong place stays there for a bit then it passes an amount of time and they just throw it out wow yeah which is depressing but is what happens so I still think it's very cool that QI mentioned it though It is. Yes, it is. It is.
I think it's most likely in landfill I imagine it got lost in the post some I mean I hate to say it but statistically most lost post ends up in some Depot in the wrong place stays there for a bit then it passes an amount of time and they just throw it out wow yeah which is depressing but is what happens so I still think it's very cool that QI mentioned it though It is. Yes, it is. It is.
That's a positive piece of news. Thank you.
That's a positive piece of news. Thank you.
I think, I would say, if it's related to tabletop role-playing games, I think we would be every time.
I think, I would say, if it's related to tabletop role-playing games, I think we would be every time.
I feel confident saying that.
I feel confident saying that.
Hopefully they'll send us a press release.
Hopefully they'll send us a press release.
You know who they should send it to? Polygon. Because if they're doing it, they should talk about it.
You know who they should send it to? Polygon. Because if they're doing it, they should talk about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
No, they do not. I'm clumsy. I walk into things constantly.
No, they do not. I'm clumsy. I walk into things constantly.
Of course.
Of course.
Nice. And in January as well, which typically the crowdfunding is a little bit more of a conservative time.
Nice. And in January as well, which typically the crowdfunding is a little bit more of a conservative time.
I mean, I haven't seen the full monster manual for 2025 from D and D, but I feel confident saying it will not have that many dinosaurs.
I mean, I haven't seen the full monster manual for 2025 from D and D, but I feel confident saying it will not have that many dinosaurs.
Sounds like a plan.
Sounds like a plan.
That was a good bit of news.
That was a good bit of news.
The link is in the comments of the live stream or in the show notes of the podcast, however you are consuming it.
The link is in the comments of the live stream or in the show notes of the podcast, however you are consuming it.
I've picked up on the segue.
I've picked up on the segue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That would be wonderful. Well, wouldn't you know, have I got a piece of news for you to organically bring up in this conversation?
That would be wonderful. Well, wouldn't you know, have I got a piece of news for you to organically bring up in this conversation?
Yeah. WizKids are releasing glow-in-the-dark D&D minis. Yeah.
Yeah. WizKids are releasing glow-in-the-dark D&D minis. Yeah.
We have an image of a very cool Underdark one covered in mushrooms.
We have an image of a very cool Underdark one covered in mushrooms.
Yes, that makes sense.
Yes, that makes sense.
What is it?
What is it?
Yeah, I don't know what that is.
Yeah, I don't know what that is.
I heard 44 as well, PJ, so I'm glad you made the joke on the reference there.
I heard 44 as well, PJ, so I'm glad you made the joke on the reference there.
Yeah, you just go to the table, roll your dice, get what you get.
Yeah, you just go to the table, roll your dice, get what you get.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I don't have much to talk about beyond the big news of Dungeons & Dragons because the Monster Manual is coming out. And like you said, the PR hype train is fully on now. So that's mostly what I have to talk about.
Well, I don't have much to talk about beyond the big news of Dungeons & Dragons because the Monster Manual is coming out. And like you said, the PR hype train is fully on now. So that's mostly what I have to talk about.
Oh, yeah?
Oh, yeah?
We are.
We are.
I know.
I know.
It's good. I still have so much to explore in this game. Just yesterday, I started my first ever honor mode run on the game. Honor what? Yeah, honor mode. So that's the highest difficulty setting. You only have one save. So if you die, you just die. There's no going back. There's no scum saving. There's no nothing. And it's very challenging.
It's good. I still have so much to explore in this game. Just yesterday, I started my first ever honor mode run on the game. Honor what? Yeah, honor mode. So that's the highest difficulty setting. You only have one save. So if you die, you just die. There's no going back. There's no scum saving. There's no nothing. And it's very challenging.
Yes, it is very, I've done the tactician one, which is like the hard mode, but this is like another level. There's no saving. If you fluff a dice roll, people die. I've already killed Gail by accident on a bad dice roll, just immediately died. And that was it. It's not forgiving. But yes.
Yes, it is very, I've done the tactician one, which is like the hard mode, but this is like another level. There's no saving. If you fluff a dice roll, people die. I've already killed Gail by accident on a bad dice roll, just immediately died. And that was it. It's not forgiving. But yes.
So anyway, that means all the subclasses and stuff we're getting in the 2025 D&D stuff is going to be put into Baldur's Gate. That is a bit of news you're sharing.
So anyway, that means all the subclasses and stuff we're getting in the 2025 D&D stuff is going to be put into Baldur's Gate. That is a bit of news you're sharing.
Cool.
Cool.
It does make me happy. Thank you very much.
It does make me happy. Thank you very much.
That's true. That's true. I wondered how many people watched that movie that hadn't played D&D. I wonder if you know what I mean?
That's true. That's true. I wondered how many people watched that movie that hadn't played D&D. I wonder if you know what I mean?
Set up for a LAN party. Now I just need friends.
Set up for a LAN party. Now I just need friends.
I do. Yeah. All right. I run games now. I haven't done it for a while. Yes, you do. No, I did last month. I ran games last month. There we go.
I do. Yeah. All right. I run games now. I haven't done it for a while. Yes, you do. No, I did last month. I ran games last month. There we go.
On this podcast...
On this podcast...
Shall we talk about Dungeons & Dragons Monster Manual 2020?
Shall we talk about Dungeons & Dragons Monster Manual 2020?
It's more than Level Up Gateway.
It's more than Level Up Gateway.
That's the reason. Yeah. As soon as it opens up, we'll have 19 million. Yeah, straight away. Absolutely.
That's the reason. Yeah. As soon as it opens up, we'll have 19 million. Yeah, straight away. Absolutely.
Indeed, indeed. Yeah.
Indeed, indeed. Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, sorry.
I apologise.
I apologise.
I apologise.
I apologise.
So it's coming out in like a month now.
So it's coming out in like a month now.
It is.
It is.
So it's coming out on the 18th of February. Is that correct?
So it's coming out on the 18th of February. Is that correct?
Great.
Great.
Mm-hmm. Which will be the 4th of February, I think I want to say. Definitely early February.
Mm-hmm. Which will be the 4th of February, I think I want to say. Definitely early February.
I have some images here.
I have some images here.
It's a picture of an oddbear I have.
It's a picture of an oddbear I have.
I know. If not friend, we're friend-shaped.
I know. If not friend, we're friend-shaped.
Yeah, but he's smiling with teeth.
Yeah, but he's smiling with teeth.
So your love and friendship will never leave it.
So your love and friendship will never leave it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And as well as the images, also stats for lots of monsters have been revealed as well. So we have some stats to discuss and.
And as well as the images, also stats for lots of monsters have been revealed as well. So we have some stats to discuss and.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's why it's terrifying.
Yeah. That's why it's terrifying.
time when it needs to run away yeah or in this case pursue adventurers at high speed yeah yeah i mean other new creatures we have sphinxes of wonder which we had the artwork for um last week on i don't know if i have it on this they're like little painted cats but yeah i mean pretty much yeah look like painted cats i don't think i've got this week for that
time when it needs to run away yeah or in this case pursue adventurers at high speed yeah yeah i mean other new creatures we have sphinxes of wonder which we had the artwork for um last week on i don't know if i have it on this they're like little painted cats but yeah i mean pretty much yeah look like painted cats i don't think i've got this week for that
And there's also, as you mentioned, the blob of annihilation. I don't have the artwork there for that, but it's a high CR ooze threat. So there is new stuff in the book. And obviously all the old stuff as well has had a tweak with the stats and things like that.
And there's also, as you mentioned, the blob of annihilation. I don't have the artwork there for that, but it's a high CR ooze threat. So there is new stuff in the book. And obviously all the old stuff as well has had a tweak with the stats and things like that.
Yes, I can see a few indie creators on this very screen. Yes.
Yes, I can see a few indie creators on this very screen. Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Flipping back and forth. Do they at least give you ribbon bookmarks?
Flipping back and forth. Do they at least give you ribbon bookmarks?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, no, I was going to say I've got artwork for some of the new monsters as well because we were talking about that earlier.
No, no, I was going to say I've got artwork for some of the new monsters as well because we were talking about that earlier.
I mean, yeah, there's the half dragon. It looks really cool. I thought that was interesting because they look different from Dragonborn. So they are kind of a humanoid dragon, but very different design to Dragonborn. And they're not a playable character race. They are a monster to kind of fight.
I mean, yeah, there's the half dragon. It looks really cool. I thought that was interesting because they look different from Dragonborn. So they are kind of a humanoid dragon, but very different design to Dragonborn. And they're not a playable character race. They are a monster to kind of fight.
Yeah. Like I say, it has not skipped leg day either. It deals an average of 29 points of damage when using its multi attack action.
Yeah. Like I say, it has not skipped leg day either. It deals an average of 29 points of damage when using its multi attack action.
It would ruin my day. I'm like an NPC with like four hit points. I would be gone.
It would ruin my day. I'm like an NPC with like four hit points. I would be gone.
I'm just a village townsfolk, the local bookseller. Four hit points.
I'm just a village townsfolk, the local bookseller. Four hit points.
Absolutely. We also have, I was just going through some new ones. We have some Cyclops as well.
Absolutely. We also have, I was just going through some new ones. We have some Cyclops as well.
Yes, which we'd love to see. Yeah, CR of 10 and Radiant Strike melee attack.
Yes, which we'd love to see. Yeah, CR of 10 and Radiant Strike melee attack.
If not friend.
If not friend.
And do we want to talk about the animal lords as well that we briefly talked about?
And do we want to talk about the animal lords as well that we briefly talked about?
Yeah. yes 5e have they so they are they are new to 5e so this is a new thing so they're celestials um and there's three different variants of them there's forager hunter and sage they're all cr20 and have different effects oh i think my internet just went funny
Yeah. yes 5e have they so they are they are new to 5e so this is a new thing so they're celestials um and there's three different variants of them there's forager hunter and sage they're all cr20 and have different effects oh i think my internet just went funny
Someone else took the animal lords for a minute then.
Someone else took the animal lords for a minute then.
I mean, I do the same thing.
I mean, I do the same thing.
We have new, like, yes, we do. And there's, like, chimeras and krakens and rust monsters and all sorts. And there's lots of undead things as well. So I'll skim through some of the artwork there as well. But there's, like, lots of lich lords and new versions, undead versions. No, we're looking here.
We have new, like, yes, we do. And there's, like, chimeras and krakens and rust monsters and all sorts. And there's lots of undead things as well. So I'll skim through some of the artwork there as well. But there's, like, lots of lich lords and new versions, undead versions. No, we're looking here.
Yeah, because it is an undead. So there's lots of gruesome undead cool things in there, which I like the artwork for. Some nice spirits and ghasts and things like that. And just general grossness that I enjoy.
Yeah, because it is an undead. So there's lots of gruesome undead cool things in there, which I like the artwork for. Some nice spirits and ghasts and things like that. And just general grossness that I enjoy.
Yeah. But there's lots of, like, stat previews, and I put the link in the chat for that. There's some, like, Skeleton, not Skellington.
Yeah. But there's lots of, like, stat previews, and I put the link in the chat for that. There's some, like, Skeleton, not Skellington.
But they've got different variants of them. So there's a flaming one, a Minotaur one, a horse. Minotaur. Minotaur.
But they've got different variants of them. So there's a flaming one, a Minotaur one, a horse. Minotaur. Minotaur.
It is a pretty book. Yeah, no, it's a pretty book, and there's some really talented artists that worked on it.
It is a pretty book. Yeah, no, it's a pretty book, and there's some really talented artists that worked on it.
Well, there's a vampire familiar stat block here that says neutral evil next to it.
Well, there's a vampire familiar stat block here that says neutral evil next to it.
Okay.
Okay.
It bears repeating because you do have some people like, no, you can't have this because their species is like this.
It bears repeating because you do have some people like, no, you can't have this because their species is like this.
Interestingly, the Haunting Revenant, that spooky house, is just neutral. It's not evil. It's just existing as a giant undead house.
Interestingly, the Haunting Revenant, that spooky house, is just neutral. It's not evil. It's just existing as a giant undead house.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
I took it to mean it's like a force of nature. Like a lot of wild animals and beasts aren't acting in a way that's good or evil. They're just running on instinct and survival. So it doesn't have a philosophy behind it.
I took it to mean it's like a force of nature. Like a lot of wild animals and beasts aren't acting in a way that's good or evil. They're just running on instinct and survival. So it doesn't have a philosophy behind it.
You know, like the BBC.
You know, like the BBC.
Yeah. So it just eats criminals. Bad people that come into the village. It's protecting the village.
Yeah. So it just eats criminals. Bad people that come into the village. It's protecting the village.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Became sentient.
Became sentient.
Sure. I've got some on the screen.
Sure. I've got some on the screen.
Tell us about those, Ross.
Tell us about those, Ross.
They look a lot more powerful than a CR1 creature. When you look at the artwork, they look really big and imposing and warrior-like.
They look a lot more powerful than a CR1 creature. When you look at the artwork, they look really big and imposing and warrior-like.
Anything interesting about those that you spotted on those stat blocks?
Anything interesting about those that you spotted on those stat blocks?
Okay.
Okay.
um there's there's like you know new Kickstarters every single day there's new games because more games more than one game a day coming out you know it's yeah and so I get it I get it but it's it's really unfair to put that back on the indie Creator yeah in their press release who's reaching out who's doing what they can it's not really I don't think it's on the indie Creator saying hey you're not doing enough because I
um there's there's like you know new Kickstarters every single day there's new games because more games more than one game a day coming out you know it's yeah and so I get it I get it but it's it's really unfair to put that back on the indie Creator yeah in their press release who's reaching out who's doing what they can it's not really I don't think it's on the indie Creator saying hey you're not doing enough because I
you know without having to rack their brains at the table and come up with stuff with all this kind of like overload of things that you've got to be doing I think when the party makes a quick right turn when they were supposed to go left there yeah it's what GM's want I think when running campaigns so and it's it's what they've liked in other books that like third party D&D stuff so it makes perfect sense that it's putting yeah
you know without having to rack their brains at the table and come up with stuff with all this kind of like overload of things that you've got to be doing I think when the party makes a quick right turn when they were supposed to go left there yeah it's what GM's want I think when running campaigns so and it's it's what they've liked in other books that like third party D&D stuff so it makes perfect sense that it's putting yeah
It was a while back. Yeah. And that's what we talked about. Yeah. So we talked about the initial stat block changes with that, like with the initiative. That was a big shining thing we liked about that, the way that's to the side.
It was a while back. Yeah. And that's what we talked about. Yeah. So we talked about the initial stat block changes with that, like with the initiative. That was a big shining thing we liked about that, the way that's to the side.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
We have more of a statement. So Bane has said, it hurts my brain that they've decided to remove the spellcasting modifier for attacks and now want you to just do the maths instead.
We have more of a statement. So Bane has said, it hurts my brain that they've decided to remove the spellcasting modifier for attacks and now want you to just do the maths instead.
Most indie creators I know are trying really hard to promote their game and to get it out there. But like PJ was saying earlier, they don't have the same budgets that Hasbro and D&D have or indeed other bigger sites because you can't just drop five, ten grand on a marketing campaign when you're running your company.
Most indie creators I know are trying really hard to promote their game and to get it out there. But like PJ was saying earlier, they don't have the same budgets that Hasbro and D&D have or indeed other bigger sites because you can't just drop five, ten grand on a marketing campaign when you're running your company.
Yeah. And the spellcasting DC is there, but not the attack modifier, they were saying. So.
Yeah. And the spellcasting DC is there, but not the attack modifier, they were saying. So.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think that's what they were saying.
I think that's what they were saying.
But yeah.
But yeah.
And those are the stat blocks we have. The rest is just a lot of pretty art pieces and things like that. Yeah. Yeah.
And those are the stat blocks we have. The rest is just a lot of pretty art pieces and things like that. Yeah. Yeah.
But yeah, that we've gone through. And they've released the pretty edition of the cover as well, which has a very nice mind flayer on top.
But yeah, that we've gone through. And they've released the pretty edition of the cover as well, which has a very nice mind flayer on top.
Yes.
Yes.
No, thanks. No, thanks. I spend a lot of my time trying to get tadpoles out of my brain in Baldur's Gate, so, yeah.
No, thanks. No, thanks. I spend a lot of my time trying to get tadpoles out of my brain in Baldur's Gate, so, yeah.
I don't have a huge amount more to say, really, than what we initially saw when we first saw the first stat block. It looks like it's going to be very pretty as a nice thing to have. I'm not sure it's something I'm going to pick up, but if people are picking up and playing D&D, I think it will be a pretty nice thing to have that has monsters in.
I don't have a huge amount more to say, really, than what we initially saw when we first saw the first stat block. It looks like it's going to be very pretty as a nice thing to have. I'm not sure it's something I'm going to pick up, but if people are picking up and playing D&D, I think it will be a pretty nice thing to have that has monsters in.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, especially compared to D&D. I was thinking even in the indie world, that is five or ten grand on a marketing campaign is quite a lot.
Yeah, especially compared to D&D. I was thinking even in the indie world, that is five or ten grand on a marketing campaign is quite a lot.
Yes. I think it's going to be a pretty, pretty book. It's probably not one I'm going to buy, but I think it's pretty.
Yes. I think it's going to be a pretty, pretty book. It's probably not one I'm going to buy, but I think it's pretty.
It was just... I'm comparing it to all the other indie games out there. If I've got 50 quid to spend on tabletop RPG, I'd rather buy two or three zines or something from the smaller creators. But that's just me because I'm not running D&D regularly. If I was running D&D regularly 5e, then yeah, this would be something I'd pick up.
It was just... I'm comparing it to all the other indie games out there. If I've got 50 quid to spend on tabletop RPG, I'd rather buy two or three zines or something from the smaller creators. But that's just me because I'm not running D&D regularly. If I was running D&D regularly 5e, then yeah, this would be something I'd pick up.
And I think the little tweaks in the stats will make it.
And I think the little tweaks in the stats will make it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's... It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. What an intro. Thank you very much.
It's... It's me, Jessica from EM Publishing. What an intro. Thank you very much.
Well, there we go. Yeah.
Well, there we go. Yeah.
Love it. Well, there we go.
Love it. Well, there we go.
Yeah, we are. And if people listening to the podcast want to come along and watch us live record it, we'll be at 2pm GMT, which I believe is like 9am Eastern. We haven't really talked about this, have we? No.
Yeah, we are. And if people listening to the podcast want to come along and watch us live record it, we'll be at 2pm GMT, which I believe is like 9am Eastern. We haven't really talked about this, have we? No.
Yeah. And Mothership is a great game.
Yeah. And Mothership is a great game.
Not live.
Not live.
We posted it on YouTube, yeah. But we'll be live streaming going forward on the EN World Facebook page, the EN World YouTube page, and the EN World Twitch page as well.
We posted it on YouTube, yeah. But we'll be live streaming going forward on the EN World Facebook page, the EN World YouTube page, and the EN World Twitch page as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. And if you can't make it live, you can still email in or write to us and ask your questions that way as well.
Yeah. And if you can't make it live, you can still email in or write to us and ask your questions that way as well.
It's just a yes and situation.
It's just a yes and situation.
Okay. Well, on that note, shall we call it a day?
Okay. Well, on that note, shall we call it a day?
Have a great day. We're just finishing.
Have a great day. We're just finishing.
Thanks to everyone that watched and thanks to everyone who listened. Bye, bye, bye.
Thanks to everyone that watched and thanks to everyone who listened. Bye, bye, bye.
I have an entire podcast, not D&D, where we talk about different indie things this week. And yeah.
I have an entire podcast, not D&D, where we talk about different indie things this week. And yeah.
The numbers aren't coming through on that. So it's, yeah.
The numbers aren't coming through on that. So it's, yeah.
For who?
For who?
Might be a bit of a Blade Runner experience for me, you know.
Might be a bit of a Blade Runner experience for me, you know.
Well, there we go.
Well, there we go.
Yeah. What other news have we got?
Yeah. What other news have we got?
Have you had a good week?
Have you had a good week?
How am I meant to compete with a cat picture?
How am I meant to compete with a cat picture?
I'm setting myself up for failure right there.
I'm setting myself up for failure right there.
I do have antlers and fawn ears.
I do have antlers and fawn ears.
It's not a cat, but it isn't an animal.
It's not a cat, but it isn't an animal.
Yeah, launched the Gatepass Gazette annual on Backerkit, which is the first time we've done a Backerkit crowdfunding campaign. And people backed it. Which is good.
Yeah, launched the Gatepass Gazette annual on Backerkit, which is the first time we've done a Backerkit crowdfunding campaign. And people backed it. Which is good.
No, you would.
No, you would.
I showed you last week on this very stream.
I showed you last week on this very stream.
If we're not segueing into talking about the D&D news that includes animals, should we mention some other news? Yes. As we're in the doom and gloom side of things, shall we stay in that side of things?
If we're not segueing into talking about the D&D news that includes animals, should we mention some other news? Yes. As we're in the doom and gloom side of things, shall we stay in that side of things?
All right, let's talk about bankruptcy.
All right, let's talk about bankruptcy.
Bankruptcy is always fun. I mean, obviously, this isn't great. But yeah, so Diamond Comics own kind of Alliance game distribution in a very roundabout way. Alliance games distribution is a North American. I believe in other parts of the world as well, but they're very big in North America, I know. distributor of toys, games, including role-playing games.
Bankruptcy is always fun. I mean, obviously, this isn't great. But yeah, so Diamond Comics own kind of Alliance game distribution in a very roundabout way. Alliance games distribution is a North American. I believe in other parts of the world as well, but they're very big in North America, I know. distributor of toys, games, including role-playing games.
And they are being sold because the parent company, which is Diamond Comics, are going bankrupt. Which kind of sucks for everybody that works there because when things are sold and things go bankrupt, that obviously creates job uncertainty. And also, I know a lot of stores use Alliance to get all the latest games and stuff for their distribution. So...
And they are being sold because the parent company, which is Diamond Comics, are going bankrupt. Which kind of sucks for everybody that works there because when things are sold and things go bankrupt, that obviously creates job uncertainty. And also, I know a lot of stores use Alliance to get all the latest games and stuff for their distribution. So...
So this will impact a lot of people, so that's a shame. But it looks like Alliance is being purchased by Universal Distribution and Universal are a distributor in North America as well. So maybe that will just become part of that. Yes.
So this will impact a lot of people, so that's a shame. But it looks like Alliance is being purchased by Universal Distribution and Universal are a distributor in North America as well. So maybe that will just become part of that. Yes.
Possibly more. Yes, it is more than four.
Possibly more. Yes, it is more than four.
When money gets to that level, it just stops making sense to me because I can't stop being just numb. Yeah, it's wild because it's not money that I would ever have in my hands.
When money gets to that level, it just stops making sense to me because I can't stop being just numb. Yeah, it's wild because it's not money that I would ever have in my hands.
I don't even own either of those things. That's the scale I'm at.
I don't even own either of those things. That's the scale I'm at.
But, yeah. Yeah. Hopefully everybody that's owed money on that, they're able to move over to Universal and get their stock moving and get paid that way. Hopefully that resolves. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, this is a thing that will affect the North American tabletop industry.
But, yeah. Yeah. Hopefully everybody that's owed money on that, they're able to move over to Universal and get their stock moving and get paid that way. Hopefully that resolves. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, this is a thing that will affect the North American tabletop industry.
Goodness. I'm not qualified, but I'll give it a go. Give it a go.
Goodness. I'm not qualified, but I'll give it a go. Give it a go.
That's quite far away for me. If you're in Canada, it might not be.
That's quite far away for me. If you're in Canada, it might not be.
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
What's 30 pounds? Seven times per night. What's 30 pounds?
What's 30 pounds? Seven times per night. What's 30 pounds?
unbelievable but it's a workout especially for that amount of time i think would be quite a lot seven times per night as well yeah maybe maybe i don't want to do that my best lift is uh over 100 kilograms but that's not sustained for a long period of time so that's not just your arms is it that's um legs and body and everything well i use my hands and arms to pick it up
unbelievable but it's a workout especially for that amount of time i think would be quite a lot seven times per night as well yeah maybe maybe i don't want to do that my best lift is uh over 100 kilograms but that's not sustained for a long period of time so that's not just your arms is it that's um legs and body and everything well i use my hands and arms to pick it up
They are involved. I don't use my teeth or something like a dog.
They are involved. I don't use my teeth or something like a dog.
Yeah, I do. On the tip of my nose right here.
Yeah, I do. On the tip of my nose right here.
No, but okay. I don't think I'll apply for that job. Also, I'm kind of busy here. We've got stuff going on this year, the end of publishing, so I should probably stay here.
No, but okay. I don't think I'll apply for that job. Also, I'm kind of busy here. We've got stuff going on this year, the end of publishing, so I should probably stay here.
Yeah, discuss.
Yeah, discuss.
But I know that pinball is very popular.
But I know that pinball is very popular.
There's no image of it.
There's no image of it.
Not an event in my diary, so I couldn't tell you.
Not an event in my diary, so I couldn't tell you.
Yeah, I guess it'll be dragon-y themed, so that'll be quite fun.
Yeah, I guess it'll be dragon-y themed, so that'll be quite fun.
Last year, you mean?
Last year, you mean?
I haven't played it either, in fairness.
I haven't played it either, in fairness.
Sure.
Sure.
um i got a copy of the savage world superpowers book yes i did specifically request it but that's the way to make sure i get what i read yes yes it is be direct say state your wants and needs the perfect way to do that i got a few nerdy things which i'll share i got um a little cute stocking which has dice on which is very cute i got uh the slow knife tabletop rpg which is um
um i got a copy of the savage world superpowers book yes i did specifically request it but that's the way to make sure i get what i read yes yes it is be direct say state your wants and needs the perfect way to do that i got a few nerdy things which i'll share i got um a little cute stocking which has dice on which is very cute i got uh the slow knife tabletop rpg which is um
And people are unhappy with this because they feel that it's encouraging children to gamble.
And people are unhappy with this because they feel that it's encouraging children to gamble.
That was my only thought. Like, surely they'll be in casinos and in places which are for adults. Yeah.
That was my only thought. Like, surely they'll be in casinos and in places which are for adults. Yeah.
I don't really have many strong opinions about this, to be honest. But I think that's maybe because I don't really gamble. I'm not really involved in that world. I'm a bit ignorant to the whole big thing.
I don't really have many strong opinions about this, to be honest. But I think that's maybe because I don't really gamble. I'm not really involved in that world. I'm a bit ignorant to the whole big thing.
Yeah, I think it's meant to be. I think you just push some buttons and noise happens.
Yeah, I think it's meant to be. I think you just push some buttons and noise happens.
I've only been in a casino once. It was for a friend's stag do or bachelor parties, you say in the U S and we did play some, but it was playing card games. So I knew what they were and I didn't expect to win any money. So I went in with some money to spend like for the evening at this person's event to play some games. I saw it as that. And I was correct. I did not win any money.
I've only been in a casino once. It was for a friend's stag do or bachelor parties, you say in the U S and we did play some, but it was playing card games. So I knew what they were and I didn't expect to win any money. So I went in with some money to spend like for the evening at this person's event to play some games. I saw it as that. And I was correct. I did not win any money.
So that's the extent of my gambling experience. So we just played some poker and some blackjack and that was it. But yeah. Well,
So that's the extent of my gambling experience. So we just played some poker and some blackjack and that was it. But yeah. Well,
It's a story game for two to four people, and it's about revenge. They think the Count of Monte Cristo, which is really nice. I enjoy playing that. I got a little board game by Oink Games called Five Rafter, which is a dexterity balancing game.
It's a story game for two to four people, and it's about revenge. They think the Count of Monte Cristo, which is really nice. I enjoy playing that. I got a little board game by Oink Games called Five Rafter, which is a dexterity balancing game.
I imagine a lot of articles were linking it to like a culture war. Oh, look at this woke nonsense angle. Cause I bet there's some articles that did that as well, which is just, it feels a bit click baity for that. Cause anytime you put something in woke and outrage about something, you get lots of people clicking through.
I imagine a lot of articles were linking it to like a culture war. Oh, look at this woke nonsense angle. Cause I bet there's some articles that did that as well, which is just, it feels a bit click baity for that. Cause anytime you put something in woke and outrage about something, you get lots of people clicking through.
Well, maybe it's because the Monsters manual's coming out. So all three books will be out officially. So maybe they're doing more press releases to mainstream press because the whole collection's out. Or it might just be because a lot of news articles are enjoying the engagement they get from culture wars talking about woke and things like that. And this is just another topic you can link to that.
Well, maybe it's because the Monsters manual's coming out. So all three books will be out officially. So maybe they're doing more press releases to mainstream press because the whole collection's out. Or it might just be because a lot of news articles are enjoying the engagement they get from culture wars talking about woke and things like that. And this is just another topic you can link to that.
I don't know why they're having a slow news week, because there is a lot happening in the world in terms of news. That is true. I know TGVG news gets slow this time of year, but there's natural disasters, there's wars, there's political things happening. There's stuff to comment about.
I don't know why they're having a slow news week, because there is a lot happening in the world in terms of news. That is true. I know TGVG news gets slow this time of year, but there's natural disasters, there's wars, there's political things happening. There's stuff to comment about.
When Nosferatu came out, we could talk about that.
When Nosferatu came out, we could talk about that.
Same. Anyway, maybe that's enough of us talking about that because like we said, we talked about this a year ago on this and people, podcast listeners, know all about this.
Same. Anyway, maybe that's enough of us talking about that because like we said, we talked about this a year ago on this and people, podcast listeners, know all about this.
All right, PJ, what have you got?
All right, PJ, what have you got?
Hey. You don't have to be good at games to enjoy playing them.
Hey. You don't have to be good at games to enjoy playing them.
Okay. What is it?
Okay. What is it?
And I do like a bit of nerdy cosplay, so I did also get this, which is a crown headband with antlers and deer fawn ears.
And I do like a bit of nerdy cosplay, so I did also get this, which is a crown headband with antlers and deer fawn ears.
Awfully cheerful engine.
Awfully cheerful engine.
Yeah, why not? Well, I have some other news as well, something we've been working on to start the new year in publishing. We are, which I'll briefly mention so it's not too much of an ad, so we are launching the Gatepass Gazette annual 2024 next week. That is amazing! But interestingly, we're trying out Backerkit as a crowdfunding platform for this.
Yeah, why not? Well, I have some other news as well, something we've been working on to start the new year in publishing. We are, which I'll briefly mention so it's not too much of an ad, so we are launching the Gatepass Gazette annual 2024 next week. That is amazing! But interestingly, we're trying out Backerkit as a crowdfunding platform for this.
We usually have used Kickstarter historically in the past, but there's loads of different crowdfunding platforms available now that offer different things. And we are trying out Backerkit for this. So because we already use Backerkit a lot for our pledge managers. So we're trying out their crowdfunding options for this as well. So that's launching next week.
We usually have used Kickstarter historically in the past, but there's loads of different crowdfunding platforms available now that offer different things. And we are trying out Backerkit for this. So because we already use Backerkit a lot for our pledge managers. So we're trying out their crowdfunding options for this as well. So that's launching next week.
Yep. And the print order will be subject to how many copies we get. So if we get 300 hardcovers ordered throughout the campaign, there'll be an offset print run. And if it's less than that, it'll be a print on demand kind of option. So we're going to have, it's like a stretch goal. If we get to 300, everyone will be upgraded to an offset print run. So we'll have a little tracker for that as well.
Yep. And the print order will be subject to how many copies we get. So if we get 300 hardcovers ordered throughout the campaign, there'll be an offset print run. And if it's less than that, it'll be a print on demand kind of option. So we're going to have, it's like a stretch goal. If we get to 300, everyone will be upgraded to an offset print run. So we'll have a little tracker for that as well.
Which, yes, I'm going to wear at Fantasy Forest in the summer, where I'm going to be a fawn of some sort.
Which, yes, I'm going to wear at Fantasy Forest in the summer, where I'm going to be a fawn of some sort.
Well, in a way, Marvin is working on one because we are having a pets kind of book coming up for Level Up.
Well, in a way, Marvin is working on one because we are having a pets kind of book coming up for Level Up.
It is, in a way, adding to my collection of tiaras, but this one has big, giant antlers on, so it also adds about a foot to my height, so maybe people will see me in a crowd.
It is, in a way, adding to my collection of tiaras, but this one has big, giant antlers on, so it also adds about a foot to my height, so maybe people will see me in a crowd.
Yeah, exactly. So that's my hope when I go to Fantasy Forest later this year.
Yeah, exactly. So that's my hope when I go to Fantasy Forest later this year.
There's some other crowdfunding campaigns we spotted which were quite interesting as well.
There's some other crowdfunding campaigns we spotted which were quite interesting as well.
Who was it that noticed this lovely map one?
Who was it that noticed this lovely map one?
Tell us more.
Tell us more.
Indeed, indeed. So, yes, I hope everyone else got some fun stuff or had some time off or just enjoyed.
Indeed, indeed. So, yes, I hope everyone else got some fun stuff or had some time off or just enjoyed.
Papyrus. Papyrus, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Papyrus. Papyrus, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nice.
Nice.
Really good for a loaded collection of really nicely made maps here.
Really good for a loaded collection of really nicely made maps here.
Oh, what do they look like?
Oh, what do they look like?
On the subject of crowdfunding as well, we also have We Dig Giant Robots. Who saw this one?
On the subject of crowdfunding as well, we also have We Dig Giant Robots. Who saw this one?
All right.
All right.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
Yeah, that's fair enough.
He says, no, I will not. I will remain trying to climb on you and get your attention.
He says, no, I will not. I will remain trying to climb on you and get your attention.
Well, I feel we're a little bit updated on our lives and games. Shall we tell people about the tabletop RPG news?
Well, I feel we're a little bit updated on our lives and games. Shall we tell people about the tabletop RPG news?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It does look fun.
It does look fun.
Wow. Yeah. It's always impressive when people do that. Yes. Nice. Love it. Yeah. Well, I have a little bit of Pathfinder news.
Wow. Yeah. It's always impressive when people do that. Yes. Nice. Love it. Yeah. Well, I have a little bit of Pathfinder news.
So if you're seeking the path, I can show you the way. So it is a cover reveal. Well, it's not Pathfinder, technically. It is Starfinder.
So if you're seeking the path, I can show you the way. So it is a cover reveal. Well, it's not Pathfinder, technically. It is Starfinder.
So the Starfinder cover's out, and it's pretty. So the cover art's been revealed. So it's like this gold ancient horse, a big door, and this mechanoid, almost looks like a dragon, kind of appears with, like, laser shooting through, and there's, like...
So the Starfinder cover's out, and it's pretty. So the cover art's been revealed. So it's like this gold ancient horse, a big door, and this mechanoid, almost looks like a dragon, kind of appears with, like, laser shooting through, and there's, like...
What's it called?
What's it called?
What could go wrong? Which scientist made that? Nothing could go wrong here. This is like Jurassic Park all over again, but with science. Well, that was science. Anyway, the point is, I think the cover looks nice. It does look nice. I think it is gorgeous. Yeah, I think it is gorgeous. But yeah, so Starfinder 2nd Edition is coming out. And what's nice is the idea is that it can be similar.
What could go wrong? Which scientist made that? Nothing could go wrong here. This is like Jurassic Park all over again, but with science. Well, that was science. Anyway, the point is, I think the cover looks nice. It does look nice. I think it is gorgeous. Yeah, I think it is gorgeous. But yeah, so Starfinder 2nd Edition is coming out. And what's nice is the idea is that it can be similar.
They're bringing it in line with Pathfinder 2nd Edition, so you could have the mash, which I think is a really nice take as well.
They're bringing it in line with Pathfinder 2nd Edition, so you could have the mash, which I think is a really nice take as well.
Where should we start, Russ?
Where should we start, Russ?
Nice. Well, there's another book you could pick up as well whilst you're on the Starfinder Pathfinder discussion. So there is a new Pathfinder book coming out, which is a new Lost Omens book and a remastered version of The Treasure Vault as well. So I don't know the covers for those, but I have some cool artwork.
Nice. Well, there's another book you could pick up as well whilst you're on the Starfinder Pathfinder discussion. So there is a new Pathfinder book coming out, which is a new Lost Omens book and a remastered version of The Treasure Vault as well. So I don't know the covers for those, but I have some cool artwork.
You know, I'm not. Yes, it's the new version. The one was originally published in 2023. But yeah, and basically this is just tweaking it to bring it in line with 2E. But it's got rules for 600 items, 50 weapons, 100 alchemical items. So it's basically bringing those items in line with the new edition. But yeah, and they'll be coming out in June in the summer. So June 2025.
You know, I'm not. Yes, it's the new version. The one was originally published in 2023. But yeah, and basically this is just tweaking it to bring it in line with 2E. But it's got rules for 600 items, 50 weapons, 100 alchemical items. So it's basically bringing those items in line with the new edition. But yeah, and they'll be coming out in June in the summer. So June 2025.
And that's like, they're about 60 quid. So $60 for Shining Kingdoms and Treasure Vault is $64.99 or $65. So that's coming out as well.
And that's like, they're about 60 quid. So $60 for Shining Kingdoms and Treasure Vault is $64.99 or $65. So that's coming out as well.
Yes.
Yes.
Does he have any news to share with us?
Does he have any news to share with us?
Well, I would... Sorry, PJ.
Well, I would... Sorry, PJ.
I think the people would like to know. I know what it is because you have shared with me in advance. I don't know what it is. I will not speculate.
I think the people would like to know. I know what it is because you have shared with me in advance. I don't know what it is. I will not speculate.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's more fun for New Year's.
It's more fun for New Year's.
Well, as we do every year, it would be good to discuss... Oh, dogs barking agree. Good to discuss the most anticipated games coming out in 2025. Yes.
Well, as we do every year, it would be good to discuss... Oh, dogs barking agree. Good to discuss the most anticipated games coming out in 2025. Yes.
All right. So people can vote for games they're excited about that are out. And that will segue us nicely after the break to talking about games that people are excited about already.
All right. So people can vote for games they're excited about that are out. And that will segue us nicely after the break to talking about games that people are excited about already.
Oh, right. Okay. Yeah.
Oh, right. Okay. Yeah.
In fairness, a lot of publishers reasonably anticipate it will be out that year as well. But things do happen.
In fairness, a lot of publishers reasonably anticipate it will be out that year as well. But things do happen.
Well, yes, because it's on the screen in front of me.
Well, yes, because it's on the screen in front of me.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes. Yeah.
Yes. Yeah.
Okay, I'll scroll down. You ready? Okay.
Okay, I'll scroll down. You ready? Okay.
first edition was fine when i played it well i enjoyed it in their press release they said that it was a lot of tweaks and updates um from having had the game out for a number of years and just having a lot more people play and they basically just took on the feedback from people playing it a lot so i think it's it's it's a new edition but it's not completely reworking it i've still got my original editions in the starter box set which i haven't got to the table yet so i think i'm gonna
first edition was fine when i played it well i enjoyed it in their press release they said that it was a lot of tweaks and updates um from having had the game out for a number of years and just having a lot more people play and they basically just took on the feedback from people playing it a lot so i think it's it's it's a new edition but it's not completely reworking it i've still got my original editions in the starter box set which i haven't got to the table yet so i think i'm gonna
get them out before i look at um getting the evolved edition but um i don't think it's going to be anything it's got like new artwork a bit of new content yeah it's got delayed a little bit to include stuff from alien romulus all right okay put some of that in i believe nice which i think amounted to like a spaceship and a gun
get them out before i look at um getting the evolved edition but um i don't think it's going to be anything it's got like new artwork a bit of new content yeah it's got delayed a little bit to include stuff from alien romulus all right okay put some of that in i believe nice which i think amounted to like a spaceship and a gun
yeah or maybe one other item wasn't a lot of content but yeah yeah well i think for me my thing would say because it looks like it's more of a tweak than a brand new overhaul so unless you're a collector if you've already got this game i'd say you don't need to rush out to replace it but if you've not got any alien games here would be a good place to jump in i guess yeah there's a new starter set coming as well so
yeah or maybe one other item wasn't a lot of content but yeah yeah well i think for me my thing would say because it looks like it's more of a tweak than a brand new overhaul so unless you're a collector if you've already got this game i'd say you don't need to rush out to replace it but if you've not got any alien games here would be a good place to jump in i guess yeah there's a new starter set coming as well so
I love Free League starter box sets. They always have loads of fun handouts and goodies in, so I'm a sucker for those.
I love Free League starter box sets. They always have loads of fun handouts and goodies in, so I'm a sucker for those.
Well, shall we carry on with our list?
Well, shall we carry on with our list?
And in fairness, the second edition came third in the poll in 2024 and 2023, I believe.
And in fairness, the second edition came third in the poll in 2024 and 2023, I believe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So the anticipation is still there, but it is waning because it's gone from third to eighth. So maybe people are a little bit tired of waiting.
So the anticipation is still there, but it is waning because it's gone from third to eighth. So maybe people are a little bit tired of waiting.
yeah yes yeah no yeah last year sorry i think two years ago it wasn't there yeah the kickstarter was like delayed by a year for when it was going to come out and then then it yeah it came out last year so yeah this isn't but people have been excited about it for a long time yes yeah i'm looking forward to it i am definitely looking forward to it right let's go to the next
yeah yes yeah no yeah last year sorry i think two years ago it wasn't there yeah the kickstarter was like delayed by a year for when it was going to come out and then then it yeah it came out last year so yeah this isn't but people have been excited about it for a long time yes yeah i'm looking forward to it i am definitely looking forward to it right let's go to the next
Next, I will announce seventh.
Next, I will announce seventh.
It is. It's Coriolis, The Great Dark.
It is. It's Coriolis, The Great Dark.
Oh, they do. Well, they make pretty stuff. They make good stuff, yeah. And I think once, because they use their in-house system, once you've played a Free League game, it's not too intimidating to jump to another one. Yeah. Because you kind of know the basic engine behind it.
Oh, they do. Well, they make pretty stuff. They make good stuff, yeah. And I think once, because they use their in-house system, once you've played a Free League game, it's not too intimidating to jump to another one. Yeah. Because you kind of know the basic engine behind it.
Yes.
Yes.
But it's not scary to jump from one to the other. Yeah. Original sci-fi game. Yeah.
But it's not scary to jump from one to the other. Yeah. Original sci-fi game. Yeah.
I have one of the books. It looks very pretty. I've not played it. It does feel like a space Indiana Jones, but moody and dark.
I have one of the books. It looks very pretty. I've not played it. It does feel like a space Indiana Jones, but moody and dark.
So it's very, the universe is cold, dark and unforgiving and not a safe place. That's very much.
So it's very, the universe is cold, dark and unforgiving and not a safe place. That's very much.
Yeah. So this is the great dark. Yeah. So it's like a new, yeah.
Yeah. So this is the great dark. Yeah. So it's like a new, yeah.
But I think a lot of games have done new additions and things like that to just set up there, you know, making sure they're in line with stuff post OGL. So yeah.
But I think a lot of games have done new additions and things like that to just set up there, you know, making sure they're in line with stuff post OGL. So yeah.
No, but a lot of people, no, no, no, not because they had to, but a lot of people have been doing revamps and stuff like that now to tidy up rules and things like that.
No, but a lot of people, no, no, no, not because they had to, but a lot of people have been doing revamps and stuff like that now to tidy up rules and things like that.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know.
I like an edition, too, yeah.
I like an edition, too, yeah.
Sorry, I scrolled down and gave away the sixth place for those.
Sorry, I scrolled down and gave away the sixth place for those.
OK, so shall we let the cat out of the bag then, Ross? Yeah, go on then. Who's in sixth place?
OK, so shall we let the cat out of the bag then, Ross? Yeah, go on then. Who's in sixth place?
I was going to check.
I was going to check.
Yeah. I mean, British folklore I really love because it's very dark and the general vibe is... The Fae are terrible. Don't interact with them. It's not safe. They will do awful, awful things to you. And it's not because they're evil or mean. They just have a different perspective on morality. So they're just doing things. But to you, it will be awful. Don't get involved with the Fae.
Yeah. I mean, British folklore I really love because it's very dark and the general vibe is... The Fae are terrible. Don't interact with them. It's not safe. They will do awful, awful things to you. And it's not because they're evil or mean. They just have a different perspective on morality. So they're just doing things. But to you, it will be awful. Don't get involved with the Fae.
Don't put welcome on your mat outside the front of your door. Don't invite them in. Don't make promises. Don't accept food.
Don't put welcome on your mat outside the front of your door. Don't invite them in. Don't make promises. Don't accept food.
Yeah, it could be. Is that how it works? That could be a loophole, which is why I'm not having... Or any message that could potentially be that. They'll look for loopholes.
Yeah, it could be. Is that how it works? That could be a loophole, which is why I'm not having... Or any message that could potentially be that. They'll look for loopholes.
You need to be careful.
You need to be careful.
Okay, so let's look at number five.
Okay, so let's look at number five.
I think I'd like to be the bat or the clueless human.
I think I'd like to be the bat or the clueless human.
Well, what else could you possibly want to be, in fact?
Well, what else could you possibly want to be, in fact?
There's even an elf in there as well.
There's even an elf in there as well.
That's the exhaustive list of things you can be.
That's the exhaustive list of things you can be.
Love it.
Love it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And of course, we are discussing Terry Pratchett's Discworld and Adventures in Ankh-Morpork RPG by Modiphius. Yes.
And of course, we are discussing Terry Pratchett's Discworld and Adventures in Ankh-Morpork RPG by Modiphius. Yes.
I think it's going to be a bit of a coffee table book as well. So people that collect Terry Pratchett things will be interested in having it for, even if not to run it as a game, but just as a beautiful Pratchett.
I think it's going to be a bit of a coffee table book as well. So people that collect Terry Pratchett things will be interested in having it for, even if not to run it as a game, but just as a beautiful Pratchett.
Yes.
Yes.
Coming in, in fourth place, we have Draw Steel, the MCDM RPG. Hmm.
Coming in, in fourth place, we have Draw Steel, the MCDM RPG. Hmm.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Definitely in the top five.
Definitely in the top five.
Yeah, I think it's a fantasy. It's got the setting as in like you're a fantasy hero and you're fighting things and there's magic and your classic Lord of the Rings style fantasy. But it's a different system. So I think it's an alternative to D&D. So it's an option for people that like play a lot of D&D and like that style of storytelling, but are looking for a different system.
Yeah, I think it's a fantasy. It's got the setting as in like you're a fantasy hero and you're fighting things and there's magic and your classic Lord of the Rings style fantasy. But it's a different system. So I think it's an alternative to D&D. So it's an option for people that like play a lot of D&D and like that style of storytelling, but are looking for a different system.
This this takes that place, I think.
This this takes that place, I think.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Oh, I thought that was just you. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a great description, PJ. I was really impressed. But yeah, yeah.
Oh, I thought that was just you. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's a great description, PJ. I was really impressed. But yeah, yeah.
I am intrigued to see it. I definitely will get a PDF and read through because I think it's something interesting and I want to see what they're bringing to the RPG space for sure.
I am intrigued to see it. I definitely will get a PDF and read through because I think it's something interesting and I want to see what they're bringing to the RPG space for sure.
Yes.
Yes.
They pay people well, yeah.
They pay people well, yeah.
I think it's got a really nice community of people around it as well. And that's why it did so well in this poll, because there's a whole community of people that really enjoy their stuff and enjoy what their company stands for and what they do. So it's really nice to see them doing well.
I think it's got a really nice community of people around it as well. And that's why it did so well in this poll, because there's a whole community of people that really enjoy their stuff and enjoy what their company stands for and what they do. So it's really nice to see them doing well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
We're now in the top three. Who would like to reveal who's in third place?
We're now in the top three. Who would like to reveal who's in third place?
I think I have, because you two keep forgetting to say the name of it before going into the description.
I think I have, because you two keep forgetting to say the name of it before going into the description.
But I think what people mean by that is a lot of people that watch Critical Role came into that and attached themselves to D&D, and this might be a really good opportunity for them to try something new because Critical Role will guide them in. So I think it will introduce a different game to a lot of people that primarily play D&D.
But I think what people mean by that is a lot of people that watch Critical Role came into that and attached themselves to D&D, and this might be a really good opportunity for them to try something new because Critical Role will guide them in. So I think it will introduce a different game to a lot of people that primarily play D&D.
Yeah, and I think that's only a good thing because a varied TTFPG diet is a healthy diet.
Yeah, and I think that's only a good thing because a varied TTFPG diet is a healthy diet.
Yes. How many different books have they eaten this week? No, but it is true. Even if there's one-shots of games I've played one time and I'm like, oh, this isn't necessarily for me, but there's some aspect or element of that that I can take into another game, either as a GM or as a player. Yeah. You know, anyway.
Yes. How many different books have they eaten this week? No, but it is true. Even if there's one-shots of games I've played one time and I'm like, oh, this isn't necessarily for me, but there's some aspect or element of that that I can take into another game, either as a GM or as a player. Yeah. You know, anyway.
I'm excited to see it. I liked Candela Obscura, and I know that's a different game, but it's from the same publisher.
I'm excited to see it. I liked Candela Obscura, and I know that's a different game, but it's from the same publisher.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
And in second place.
And in second place.
And please, it is the Cosmere role playing game.
And please, it is the Cosmere role playing game.
How much was it again?
How much was it again?
10 million 13 or 14 or something it was oh yeah it shot because avatar was about 10 and it shot past avatar wow well congratulations to them so yeah so based on the brown and sanderson novels um it's an original system yeah i don't know what there more is there to say about it because we covered it when it was coming out yeah i haven't read the books or anything but uh you have haven't you peter
10 million 13 or 14 or something it was oh yeah it shot because avatar was about 10 and it shot past avatar wow well congratulations to them so yeah so based on the brown and sanderson novels um it's an original system yeah i don't know what there more is there to say about it because we covered it when it was coming out yeah i haven't read the books or anything but uh you have haven't you peter
There we go. So a lot of people are very excited for this, I think, because they're fans of the book and there's a crossover. And I think there's a lot of collector's edition pretty things that, again, go into that coffee table. If you're a fan of the setting and the books, you might pick it up for that reason as well. So no surprise to me.
There we go. So a lot of people are very excited for this, I think, because they're fans of the book and there's a crossover. And I think there's a lot of collector's edition pretty things that, again, go into that coffee table. If you're a fan of the setting and the books, you might pick it up for that reason as well. So no surprise to me.
No surprise to me this is in the top ten with the number of backers it had.
No surprise to me this is in the top ten with the number of backers it had.
Yeah, but I think what PJ is saying, because it's powered by the apocalypse, we've seen that style of game before. And it's not, so there's nothing really in the industry to discuss and you'll be like, oh, look how it did this and that, because it's using a system that we're quite familiar with and know.
Yeah, but I think what PJ is saying, because it's powered by the apocalypse, we've seen that style of game before. And it's not, so there's nothing really in the industry to discuss and you'll be like, oh, look how it did this and that, because it's using a system that we're quite familiar with and know.
Maybe not in our space of the internet.
Maybe not in our space of the internet.
I see what you mean. And I see your point about that, about lore and the world. But I always think there's bigger things in the world to interact with. Because for me, that's like saying, well, there's no point playing a Star Wars game because you know you're not going to blow up the Death Star.
I see what you mean. And I see your point about that, about lore and the world. But I always think there's bigger things in the world to interact with. Because for me, that's like saying, well, there's no point playing a Star Wars game because you know you're not going to blow up the Death Star.
but I was like yeah but there's other stuff going on in the world and like you could do like a Rogue One situation that feeds in you know I just I see your point though but I
but I was like yeah but there's other stuff going on in the world and like you could do like a Rogue One situation that feeds in you know I just I see your point though but I
Well, I, I feel we could go on a tangent talking about Star Wars and I'm not against this, but we are leaving people hanging on knowing what the number one most anticipated tabletop RPG.
Well, I, I feel we could go on a tangent talking about Star Wars and I'm not against this, but we are leaving people hanging on knowing what the number one most anticipated tabletop RPG.
I'll let you answer for us because ready?
I'll let you answer for us because ready?
Congratulations. Yeah.
Congratulations. Yeah.
I wouldn't say surprised, but my one I was most excited about isn't on there, which is So You've Met a Thousand-Year-Old Vampire. But maybe that's too much of an indie little darling of a solo RPG to gain. I mean, it was nominated. It was nominated, absolutely.
I wouldn't say surprised, but my one I was most excited about isn't on there, which is So You've Met a Thousand-Year-Old Vampire. But maybe that's too much of an indie little darling of a solo RPG to gain. I mean, it was nominated. It was nominated, absolutely.
But yeah, I think the fact that the top five are all these big IP names like Legend of the Mist, Cosmere, MCDM, Daggerheart, Pratchett, is telling of like what the non-D&D TTRPG space is like. I think if you have a big IP in things, things tend to do quite well.
But yeah, I think the fact that the top five are all these big IP names like Legend of the Mist, Cosmere, MCDM, Daggerheart, Pratchett, is telling of like what the non-D&D TTRPG space is like. I think if you have a big IP in things, things tend to do quite well.
All true things that you said, yeah.
All true things that you said, yeah.
It was clear.
It was clear.
I guess, yeah.
I guess, yeah.
Well, so bring us back on topic as well, as we're nearing the end of our time recording. So this was the first podcast back in 2025, and we've now established what we are all excited about in 2025. So, yes.
Well, so bring us back on topic as well, as we're nearing the end of our time recording. So this was the first podcast back in 2025, and we've now established what we are all excited about in 2025. So, yes.
Oh.
Oh.
Meta can't stop you.
Meta can't stop you.
They can try.
They can try.
Yes.
Yes.
So we'll brush up and read up on that.
So we'll brush up and read up on that.
And I guess we'll see folks next week then.
And I guess we'll see folks next week then.
All right. Happy New Year, everyone. Thanks a lot.
All right. Happy New Year, everyone. Thanks a lot.
which is nice as we we've mentioned before.
which is nice as we we've mentioned before.
Yeah, we'll do a deeper dive next week.
Yeah, we'll do a deeper dive next week.
Well, there we go. I think that's interesting because with hag lore, don't hags reproduce by eating a human child and then just like popping them back out into a hag?
Well, there we go. I think that's interesting because with hag lore, don't hags reproduce by eating a human child and then just like popping them back out into a hag?
That was my understanding. I could be wrong.
That was my understanding. I could be wrong.
I don't know why I even commented on that because I don't... So I didn't think they were like mammals, but maybe I'm wrong.
I don't know why I even commented on that because I don't... So I didn't think they were like mammals, but maybe I'm wrong.
Because that's why they steal children and stuff.
Because that's why they steal children and stuff.
Which we're going to do a live stream of at some point. We will do live stream.
Which we're going to do a live stream of at some point. We will do live stream.
Ooh, yay!
Ooh, yay!
Yes, correct.
Yes, correct.
Yep.
Yep.
Good.
Good.
Yeah, and mine.
Yeah, and mine.
You don't have to speak to the druids. We can go other places. There's a whole sword coast to explore.
You don't have to speak to the druids. We can go other places. There's a whole sword coast to explore.
Yes, PJ, you can come along as well.
Yes, PJ, you can come along as well.
Indeed, yes.
Indeed, yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
it's me jessica from em publishing hello we are back after two weeks off for yes i hope listeners enjoyed celebrating the new year and christmas or hanukkah or whatever whatever you celebrated uh i hope you you didn't have a nice time did we all have a great christmas and new year i did i did i had a wonderful christmas interview did anybody get any nerdy artifacts
it's me jessica from em publishing hello we are back after two weeks off for yes i hope listeners enjoyed celebrating the new year and christmas or hanukkah or whatever whatever you celebrated uh i hope you you didn't have a nice time did we all have a great christmas and new year i did i did i had a wonderful christmas interview did anybody get any nerdy artifacts
Marvelous, marvelous.
Marvelous, marvelous.
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I don't know.
Sequel? Yeah.
Sequel? Yeah.
Here we are.
Here we are.
Just grab it.
Just grab it.
That's right.
That's right.
Did you? Yeah. Oh, cool.
Did you? Yeah. Oh, cool.
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Yeah.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Write down this thing. Yeah. Yes.
Write down this thing. Yeah. Yes.
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Anyway, let's get out of here, shall we?
Anyway, let's get out of here, shall we?